[Rellik]

If the intent was to make just the light red and not the border, then PAL21 should have been used since it only colors the blue part. PAL2 on the the other hand is meant to convey that the entire area is awash in red light from all directions.

Anyway, I dunno, it's gets tricky when you mix pals, palmaps, tints and polymer lighting together.

[Night Wolf]

#0305

[Spiker]

ozz, on Jul 5 2010, 07:51 PM, said:

#0305

I know that clean textures are the prettiest but the dirty ones are the most realistic.

[Night Wolf]

Spiker, on Jul 6 2010, 04:08 AM, said:

I know that clean textures are the prettiest but the dirty ones are the most realistic.

It's the same style as the rest of the monitors i've done ... it still needs normal n spec... which make a big difference.
normally things that have a matt finish are clean, as finger prints ect. wont show up

I could ad a bit more grunge to the top part ... ill fiddle with it

Edit:

Here it is with a bit more grunge on the top, also i fixed the keypad , it was looking weird in the previous post
0305


It should be fine like this ,... I could further test it if I had a normal n spec map

[BuddhaMaster]

ozz, on Jul 5 2010, 08:19 PM, said:

0305

Best texture style I've ever seen.
This must look so good with normal map

That really captures the feel of 90's textures

Just add some dark impressed specks, especially on edges

[Night Wolf]

BuddhaMaster, on Jul 6 2010, 11:26 PM, said:

Best texture style I've ever seen.
This must look so good with normal map

That really captures the feel of 90's textures

Just add some dark impressed specks, especially on edges

Cheers man.

Yeah it should look great with normal n spec, the paralax map will probebly have to be "sculpted"
I can't seem to make complex normal maps with the nvidia photoshop plugin, and I'm no modeler:mellow:
It should look somewhat like what 0293 looks like with normal n spec maps ... ( for some reason the normal n spec for 0293 having been added to svn yet)
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y319/z...Random/spec.jpg

[NightFright]

@Cage:
Regarding your #4112 revision... Could you also provide that in 512x512? 256x256 res seems a little low to me, we try to keep texture size at a higher level. Defs for this would also be nice (if they are different from current defs).

[Night Wolf]

#0378 with normal n spec... nothing amazing just a small tile that needed remaking.

[Spiker]

ozz, on Jul 6 2010, 05:10 PM, said:

nothing amazing

Actually one thing here is amazing, guess what

[NightFright]

SVN Build #129 committed. Changes:

#276 (pal0/2/23), 305, 362 (d/n/s), 378 (n/s), 823 (d/n/s), 1215-1217 (d/g)

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To be fixed/changed/checked:

> normal/spec defs for #378 (added, but might need finetuning)
> normal/spec defs for #1097 (commented out right now in textures.def)
> error message in eduke32.log: "warning: defined hightile replacement for empty tile 9000. Maybe some tiles???.art are not loaded? / warning: defined hightile replacement for empty tile 9001."

[Spiker]

Hhhmmm this extremly low-poly shooty (307 faces) took me about 20 minutes and I haven't applied any modifiers to it. Any hope for it? Any suggestions or advice? Of course it still needs a lot of work.

[Cage]

I've made(or tweaked) some normals/specs of Ozz's tiles, hope you don't mind Ozz Good work, btw.

Those are tested ingame and work well IMO, I've defined them with simple defs like:

texture 343 {
  pal 0 { file "polytex/0343_d.png" }
  normal { file "polytex/0343_n.png" }
  specular { file "polytex/0343_s.png" }
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[Plagman]

No parallax mapping? The old vent tiles had height maps, so that would be a step in the wrong direction.

[Tea Monster]

Plagman, on Jul 6 2010, 04:30 PM, said:

No parallax mapping? The old vent tiles had height maps, so that would be a step in the wrong direction.

Yeah, just shove a height map into the alpha channel.

the shotty looks interesting. You can see the blocks quite easily though. Can we see some wires? Looks from here that you could make it a bit higher poly to hide the blockiness. Wires please!

[Night Wolf]

Nice work cage, I dont mind at all .... but yeah they should be parralax...


@spiker ... That looks interesting, top barrel seems to be on a slight angle which seems odd... but it has potential.

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one thing I always wondered , is why theres a better pickup shotgun then the current HUD version... the pickup version looked pretty good

[SchoeteCitie]

ozz, on Jul 6 2010, 10:40 PM, said:

one thing I always wondered , is why theres a better pickup shotgun then the current HUD version... the pickup version looked pretty good

I know right?
The hud model sucks it seems so long, Looking nothing like the original one at all same goes for the pistol what were they thinking :/
The rest looks so much like the originals..

[Jokke_r]

problem with the hud models is that the FOV they are being rendered with doesn't really match that of the original HUD sprites. Even if the 3D model is a 100% correct representation, it will look long and stretched. The original sprites were almost orthogonally projected as if having no depth perspective. Still whoever made the shotgun for Duke plus or whatever it was got it looking pretty good perspective wise, sadly the shotgun itself isn't the same model as the one in the original.

[Cage]

Plagman, on Jul 7 2010, 01:30 AM, said:

No parallax mapping? The old vent tiles had height maps, so that would be a step in the wrong direction.

It seems I'm never able to set the scale and (especially) bias value totally right so I've been kinda avoiding them

texture 342 {
  pal 0 { file "polytex/0342_d.png" }
  normal { file "polytex/0342_n.png" parallaxbias 0.05 parallaxscale 0.15 }
  specular { file "polytex/0342_s.png" }
}

texture 343 {
  pal 0 { file "polytex/0343_d.png" }
  normal { file "polytex/0343_n.png" parallaxbias 0.05 parallaxscale 0.15 }
  specular { file "polytex/0343_s.png" }
}

Guess those work good enough, but not perfect!

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[Spiker]

I've added more geometry. Thoughts?

[Night Wolf]

Thats looking pretty good.
still needs a bit more work to look the the one in duke ...
this might help you

[Spiker]

The problem is I have to make 2 versions. One less detailed and one more detailed. And I have to decide how many polys can be pumped in and what should be put on a normal map. Because the objective is to make it look great with the normal map.

[Tea Monster]

Its a good start. Here is a pic of the real weapon to go off of. This one is missing the forward grip, but otherwise, looks just like it. Try importing it to the Blender viewport and then matching the shapes up. Your main barrel is tapering down and is missing the heat sheild.

Don't be afraid to add more polys to make little shapes like the block that attaches the two barrels and the heatsheild. That was my biggest problem with the pistol. I was that used to Quake 3 style modelling that I stinged on the polys and it messed up my smoothing groups.

http://dynamicarmame...v2008/50580.jpg

[The Commander]

Back in my day we made weapons like this.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=GUIx628Bxxw

[Tea Monster]

The Commander, on Jul 7 2010, 01:26 PM, said:

Back in my day we made weapons like this.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=GUIx628Bxxw

Its the same now, but they make a 3D model first rather than get the real gun!

[NightFright]

SVN build #130 committed. Changes:
> Added: #342/342_s
> Modified: #181_s, 342/343_n, 783_n/s, 814_n

ToDo:
> normal/spec defs for #378 (added, but might need finetuning)
> normal/spec defs for #1097 (commented out right now in textures.def)

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In the meantime, I have uploaded a new preview build which you can download from my signature link (filesize 466.4 MB).

[Spiker]

Tea Monster, on Jul 7 2010, 05:58 PM, said:

Its a good start. Here is a pic of the real weapon to go off of.

I've tried to follow your suggestions. I still lack some technique and often I have to guess how to achieve certain things. I've added all the details I could see on this pic and now it's slightly above 800 faces. I guess that some external render would make it look better. Hopefully it's not that bad. Not sure what should be the next step

[Night Wolf]

NightFright, on Jul 8 2010, 07:42 AM, said:

SVN build #130 committed. Changes:
> Added: #342/342_s
> Modified: #181_s, 342/343_n, 783_n/s, 814_n

I think the previous spec map for 0783 that roma made was better ... the new one makes the wall too shiny, kind of kills the dirty effect.

Also why is the spec map for 0181 a completely different texture to whats been used in the tile.. looks odd when it doesnt reflect the tile properly...

[NightFright]

Well, what doesn't work can be reverted back to previous versions. And if you come up with better normal/spec maps, feel free to post them here to add them. ^^

[Tea Monster]

I'll try to have a go at some normal maps this weekend.

Spiker - That is starting to look the part. I'd concentrate on the grips at the moment. They look a little strange. Also, don't be afraid to put in the ribs on the pump.

[NightFright]

I will try to revert updated #0783_s to previous version tonight when I am back home. About #0181_s I don't know if there had been another version before - if not, maybe you folks could make a new one? ^^

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@ Tea Monster:
Since you are intending to do something about normal maps anyway, maybe you can also fix the following:

> normal/spec defs for #378 (added, but might need finetuning)
> normal/spec defs for #1097 (commented out right now in textures.def)