[KillerBudgie]

MusicallyInspired, on May 23 2009, 03:00 PM, said:

Yes! I'm looking for a nVidia. AND I have AGP! I don't actually have a mobo with PCI-E yet.....poor me. I'm still running on 768 MB of RAM too. My current ATI card is 512 MB, what's your card?

Mine's also an AGP M/B. With a GeForce 7900 GS with 512MB GDDR3 RAM. In a few months, my computer will also be running PCI-E

[supergoofy]

Not even the NVIDIA 8600GTS which is equal or better to 7900GS can handle the Polymer and Polymer HRP easily. And you also need a fast dual core cpu. Of course if you are not going to use HRP then you don't have to worry that much. I believe that the NVIDIA 7300GT will be able to handle the Polymer renderer if you are not going to use HRP.

[KillerBudgie]

supergoofy, on May 23 2009, 07:40 PM, said:

Not even the NVIDIA 8600GTS which is equal or better to 7900GS can handle the Polymer and Polymer HRP easily. And you also need a fast dual core cpu. Of course if you are not going to use HRP then you don't have to worry that much. I believe that the NVIDIA 7300GT will be able to handle the Polymer renderer if you are not going to use HRP.

The GeForce 8600GTS is far superior to my 7900GS. It may handle Polymer + HRP a bit better once all the optimisations and bug fixes are done.

[Mia Max]

How many cores can eduke32 handle?
I have a quad-core and cpu usage is at max. 50% at lower framerate.
If eduke32 uses only 2 cores, than it would be use cpu to full capasity.
Mayby gpu isn't that important, if you know what I mean.

I remember when I changed gpu 2 years ago from a lowend gpu to a much better one HRP wasn't running really better at all.
Only change of cpu brought me a much better performance.

[supergoofy]

When you run mods like Duke Plus with HRP, you need a fast dual core cpu.

[Master Fibbles]

Actually, RAM has a big role in this...my 2 gigs with the dual core intel runs things fine at a nice resolution. (and a nvidia 7600 gt)

[Jason S.]

MusicallyInspired, on May 23 2009, 07:00 AM, said:

Yes! I'm looking for a nVidia. AND I have AGP! I don't actually have a mobo with PCI-E yet.....poor me. I'm still running on 768 MB of RAM too. My current ATI card is 512 MB, what's your card?

Sorry to break it to ya, but this is a 256MB card. This 6200LE is AGPx8 and has 3 sets of pins. Still any good to ya?


@ mr.Flipper

Same here. FarCry would stall and stutter, even lock up for more then a minute, on 256MB of system RAM. PCs require much more because it is it's working space. On a console like Xbox, it only needs it's 64MB of system ram, which includes it's internal VRAM. I've noticed that on the xbox settings, Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory will run smoother on Xbox itself anyways, even on the currect set up I have.

You also have to count that FarCry Instincts looks alot like the back of the PC box art with shadows on the BG. When I played, I never could figure out how to get it so show on the BG. It only shown on the objects.

[MusicallyInspired]

256MB? Hmmm...naw never mind. Might as well wait to get a better one.


But to own a nVidia card....without having any driver problems with Linux or Polymer or anything.....

[KillerBudgie]

Mr.Flibble, on May 23 2009, 10:04 PM, said:

Actually, RAM has a big role in this...my 2 gigs with the dual core intel runs things fine at a nice resolution. (and a nvidia 7600 gt)

Your 7600GT is slightly more powerful than the one I'm using. But this model was only designed for PCI-E.

[Chip]

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And you also need a fast dual core cpu.

Huh?
Eduke32 now supports multi-core processors?

[KillerBudgie]

Well, mine is a 3.20 GHz Pentium 4 HT processor. I wonder if it might work with that...

[The Commander]

Chip, on May 25 2009, 12:21 AM, said:

Huh?
Eduke32 now supports multi-core processors?

Last time I herd it didn't so that's new to me.

[Mia Max]

Look at my CPU usage. All cores are needed. You can see when I exit eduke32.

[KillerBudgie]

Mia Max, on May 24 2009, 02:13 PM, said:

Look at my CPU usage. All cores are needed. You can see when I exit eduke32.

Well, it all depends on what you're running. What are you running BTW?

I'm not criticising anyone. Because I know for a fact that there are computers out there that are faster and more powerful than what I'm using.

[Mia Max]

@KillerBudgie: I don't know exactly what you mean.

After I exit eduke32, CPU usage is at 1%

[Master Fibbles]

I think he is asking how many processes are you running at once? Running just eduke32 or do you have like 5 things going on at once.

I like my 7600GT. Until a game I really want comes out and needs something more, I'm not upgrading. GTA4 needs more than I can play, but I don't care for that game anyway. I also hear the PC version sucks.

Of course, I'm not going to let playing Duke3D force me to upgrade.

[Tea Monster]

I don't mind upgrading to see Duke in good quality, but my current rig plays Half Life 2 Episode 1 and Quake 4 with no problems so I'm sticking for a while. Unfortunately you can't even open Babe Land as I get FPS in negative numbers.

[KillerBudgie]

Mia Max, on May 24 2009, 02:39 PM, said:

@KillerBudgie: I don't know exactly what you mean.

After I exit eduke32, CPU usage is at 1%

I meant what your system is running. Processor, RAM, Graphics Card etc.

I didn't mean what you were running along with EDuke32. Because the screenshot is in German (Or at least I think it is), and I can't read it!

[Mia Max]

KillerBudgie, on May 24 2009, 10:24 PM, said:

I meant what your system is running. Processor, RAM, Graphics Card etc.

I didn't mean what you were running along with EDuke32. Because the screenshot is in German (Or at least I think it is), and I can't read it!

Processor: quad-core @ 3 Ghz
RAM: 8 GB
Graphics Card: Nvidia GTX 260

[KillerBudgie]

Mia Max, on May 24 2009, 09:53 PM, said:

Processor: quad-core @ 3 Ghz
RAM: 8 GB
Graphics Card: Nvidia GTX 260

And yet, the Polymer renderer is eating up a lot of processor power... If it has trouble with yours, I can only imagine what it'll do to mine.

[supergoofy]

The only way to speedup Polymer is to convert its part of source to assembly. Who will do this?

[Mia Max]

KillerBudgie, on May 24 2009, 11:10 PM, said:

And yet, the Polymer renderer is eating up a lot of processor power... If it has trouble with yours, I can only imagine what it'll do to mine.

I don't have troubles with polymer when I don't overdo use of light sources.
I'm just experimenting a lot with the renderer.
I've made some big open areas with many spotlights/pointlights and framerate is still okey. Then I let a lot of enemies spawn and watch how the framerate goes under 10 FPS.
So I can see the usage of CPU and GPU. I just want to know what limits first.



I know that's crazy but makes fun.

[The Commander]

*waits for all the "I want it now* comments"*

[atlas]

i'd like to see some shots of the polymer engine running with all the glowmaps/normal maps/dynamic shadows lights/etc while running with the classic 8bit textures. this follows up on a previous discussion on the 3dr forums. i'd like to know if it's still supported : )

[William Gee]

That level looks badass! um really fantastic!

[Hellbound]

That's because enemies cast shadows and this is what kills framerate.

[MusicallyInspired]

So we've seen some examples of the normal texture-mapping and lighting. How do we go about using those special shaders for mirrors or water reflection like on that E1L3 screenshot with the submarine?

[Hellbound]

Yeah, I'm curious about that too.

[Parkar]

MusicallyInspired, on May 25 2009, 02:44 PM, said:

So we've seen some examples of the normal texture-mapping and lighting. How do we go about using those special shaders for mirrors or water reflection like on that E1L3 screenshot with the submarine?

Unless hooks to set it up was implemented during the weekend, you can't yet. The earlier shots Plagman showed were all hard coded tests.

[MusicallyInspired]

Ah, ok then.