[The Commander]

Captain Awesome, on Dec 30 2009, 07:29 PM, said:

.ANM has limitations:
A palette
You cannot have scripted sound, it must be one continuous sound that syncs with the speed of the .ANM
Unless there is a command I don't know about, you can only trigger them by ending the episode

Yes I came into all these damn limitations the other week when I converted a small clip in to an .ANM
It was more trouble than it was worth so I deleted the shit and forgot about in hopes that soon some player will be available in future.

[Hendricks266]

The further trouble with ANMs is that they are locked into the episode they are situated in. In Episodes 1, 5, 6, and 7, when you end the episode, the tile Battlelord cutscene plays, which is hard to modify.

[RedSniper]

Hello fellow Duke3D fans! I just recently discovered the greatness of EDuke32 and the ability to play Duke again on modern Operating Systems.
So I went ahead, installed the latest version of EDuke 32 (from 20091231), and the high-resolution pack (also the latest version).
I use my Duke Nukem 3D Atomic Edition grp file to start up the game.

My system is a Q6600 Quadcore machine with 4GB RAM & a Geforce 8800GTS video card on Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.
I have the "Polymer" option enabled in the EDUKE32 software and I'm playing a 1920 x 1080 32-bit resolution.

Duke 3D looks great this way, no flickering or anything, but I don't get shiny surfaces like in this polymer demo on youtube: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=I4Jtp_YJ8R0

My question : is it normal? Is it still in progress or is this a misconfiguration on my system/installation?
I have selected the highest possible texture quality & 4x Anisotropic Filtering inside Duke's Video Render settings.

I have to say I'm amazed by how alive Duke 3D still is. I replayed the 3 first episodes of Atomic Edition and it's so great to be able to do that again!
What a turnaround for this game if you look at the 2D sprites from 1996

[LeoD]

First, make sure that you have the Polymer HRP, not normal HRP.
To make use of all of the glory Polymer effects (light sources/shadows) the existing maps need additional information by maphacks (included in Polymer HRP). This has only been done for E1L1 "Hollywood Holocaust" so far. So try E1L1 first to check out the effects you are missing. Note that the maphack lighting information currently gets lost when saving/reloading the game.

Btw. don't miss to check out DukePlus which is the modern way to enjoy Duke3D. In addition it ships with at least one Polymer-ready map (dpcbp).

[RedSniper]

Thanks, this explains a lot! I'm using the HRP Polymer version, and indeed, hollywood holocaust is the best looking level so far.
I haven't heard from DukePlus yet, will check it out asap. Thanks!

[WedgeBob]

Agreed about Hollywood Holocaust with this, however, it is prone to bottlenecks and crashes to Windows, and I've fallen victim to those, despite my solid hardware. Wonder if that's gonna be fixed anytime soon.

[The Commander]

WedgeBob, on Jan 1 2010, 07:19 AM, said:

Agreed about Hollywood Holocaust with this, however, it is prone to bottlenecks and crashes to Windows, and I've fallen victim to those, despite my solid hardware. Wonder if that's gonna be fixed anytime soon.

You must be talking about the sound crashing bug as I have not herd of anyone else crashing etc due to Polymer alone. If this is the case would care to elaborate further on it.

[WedgeBob]

When I'm up in the projection room on the difficulty level "Come Get Some" I pick up everything, gib all the aliens, shoot the crack in the projector screen, then I attempt to jump out the window and back into the screen room of the theater, then the game locks up, and sends me back to Windows. Perhaps there may be a framerate issue or something in that regard... May be an HRP Polymer combination issue with all this going on at once. I mean, I have an HD5850, so I don't have any hardware problems that I know of. This is the only map that crashes on me. I go to play Spaceport, and it plays flawlessly.

[Gambini]

LeoD, on Dec 31 2009, 10:07 AM, said:

Btw. don't miss to check out DukePlus which is the modern way to enjoy Duke3D. In addition it ships with at least one Polymer-ready map (dpcbp).

The map was polymer ready when it was released. Unfortunately in newer eduke32 snapshots somebody disabled one feature that ended screwing up the compatibility with this map. Now, %90 of the lights of DPCB won´t work because they´re tagged the old way.

[TerminX]

Just use a Mapster32 script to replace all lights with colors of 0 with ones with 255 and release a new version of the map. Problem solved.

[RedSniper]

That sounds like rocket science to me as an eDuke newbie!
All I can say is that all the latest releases of all software (Duke HRP Polymer beta, latest build of eDuke and DukePlus) don't give me shiny surfaces in Hollywood Holocaust. All the rest looks great though.

Since I have discovered these add-ons & enhancements only recently, I might be the first to have played all 4 episodes of Duke with these new releases.
And I'm sorry to confirm that I as well suffered numerous game crashes and freezings while playing the game.
To me, it's a small price to play for all the goodies, extra firepower & eye candy around, but I just wanted to say that there are stability problems still.

I noticed most crashes occured when there were lots of octabrain enemies in combination with the RPG. I'm not sure the problem is related though.
Enabling DukePlus enhancements gave me loads of clipping problems and disappearing enemy models + weapon models as well.

[Gambini]

TX, on Jan 1 2010, 07:51 AM, said:

Just use a Mapster32 script to replace all lights with colors of 0 with ones with 255 and release a new version of the map. Problem solved.

Do you have an example code that i could use? I know DT can help me but afaik he doesn´t know how to use that mapster thing yet.

[Helixhorned]

Something like this should do:

// gamevar i 0 0
do for i allsprites ifactor 1 ifge .lotag 49 ifle .lotag 50 ife .xvel 0 ife .yvel 0 ife .zvel 0 { set xvel 255 set yvel 255 set zvel 255 }

[Gambini]

Thank you very much

[RuskiSnajper]

Hello I downloaded the huge 2.7 GB pack , since I already have Eduke and HRP for the 1.5 version , I wanted to upgrade so I just downloaded that pack saved me a lot of time (tnx) , I have capable PC , but Polymer makes some little lag ... well that's not the problem , the problem is that there is an UNDERWATER BUG , in shrapnel city (raw meat) i can't get underwatater all times , and when you get under , you can't move up and down , plus , polymer makes underwater really dark ,


I tried disabling maphacks.zip in autoload , then the hrp update , then XXXpacks , .. using dukeplus and hquality music has it's the same thing (using the bat , play "dn3d with.... _ .... ")

I got a crash playing that level , in the first alienized green room.

Fatal Signal caught: SIGSEGV. Bailing out.

2438: 31337 }
2439: 1293 ends 0 5 1 1 1 0 181665068 0 0
2449: 1297 state 181664892
2451: 1298 enda 0 181665068 0 0
2456: 1301 state 181664892
2458: 1302 enda 0 0 8 0
2463: 1305 ifpdistl 3084 181665192
2466: 1306 ifrnd 24 181665192
2469: 1307 spawn 661
2471: 1308 enda 0 0 0 0 0 1current actor: 158 (1255)
g_errorLineNum: 1302, g_tw: 4

Uninitializing DirectInput...
Wrote eduke32.cfg
Wrote eduke32_binds.cfg
Uninitializing DirectDraw...


// okay now that i enabled polymer_HRP , but disabled polymer in eduke launcher , seems to work now with the water , and no lag. (obviously)

If this error happens again i will report , also , i have HD4870 , Core2Quad q9300 , high end enermax psu , gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 , 2GB Corsair 1066mhz DDR2 RAM , so polymer shouldn't be THAT of a trouble , it's more in the code optimization that needs to be polished ,but hey all this packs , eduke , mods, fixes , HRP , HQS , is AWESOME , I LIKE PLAYING so much support and dedicated people - THANKS.

[The Commander]

RuskiSnajper, on Jan 4 2010, 04:18 AM, said:

Hello I downloaded the huge 2.7 GB pack

I stopped reading here.

[RuskiSnajper]

The Commander, on Jan 3 2010, 04:36 PM, said:

I stopped reading here.

What?

[The Commander]

RuskiSnajper, on Jan 4 2010, 04:42 AM, said:

What?

You downloaded the torrent pack online.
No one should help you. Buy Duke Nukem 3D you pirate, can't you afford $5?

[RuskiSnajper]

oops , my bad

I had duke nukem ... actually , and ofcourse I had it in 1998 , well ... but where got that lost so many years , plus i have whole new system and the old install got lost ... whole old PC actually (there've been 3 PCs I got new between , and judging that i only preserved my data shifting from second to third, i couldn't possibly do it before , i was a nub , didn't know , and was a shared PC either.)

I didn't know this pack is only torrented , i thought the guys made it lol?, ... and I went there cause of the fast downloading , not just that , 2GB seemed a lot so i thought it would be really cool with those features since I heard how many stuff is out there but I only had simple HRP pack with Eduke , and furthermore this pack saved me a lot of time downloading separately from everywhere .... i did however separately downloaded all previous years i played , i mean i played eduke with hrp , being in the community (not actually active hh) but this is the first time i used alternative sourse for this , i wasn't actually intending this on purpose ... i am not kind of 13 old who download all day , i use torrent maybe once a month or so.

I mean dn3d is in my blood i used to play it even in school when I was 8 years , the pcdude that was there for teaching was actually gamer him self , remember each week we went LAN with other schoolmates

Didn't actually thought ... , you depend on contributions to run this ....community and stuff,

[The Commander]

RuskiSnajper, on Jan 4 2010, 05:50 AM, said:

Didn't actually thought ... , you depend on contributions to run this ....community and stuff,

If you buy Duke Nukem from this link here,

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/duke_nukem_...bdf0e53685674f7

A part of the cost goes to the EDuke32 Dev's to help maintain website costs etc.
EDIT: Shit, look at that. At the time of posting Duke Nukem has 35% off, so now it's $3.89.
There is no excuse at all now for not buying it.

[Searinox Navras]

On the topic of the new HRP:

WOW! I am so amazed that I have no words for it... I expected there to be remade lighting and multiple light sources, but I didn't expect the effects I'm seeing on textures! Marble tiles and the air shaft to name just a few, their lighting is so realistic. I LOVE it! I have noticed a visible drop in framerates, from polymer-less HRP to polymer HRP, to about 30 fps with all settings maxed out, however, my biggest problem remains the abnormal processor usage I have been getting since polymer eduke32's first release, really does NOBODY have any idea what could be doing this to me?

There is another thing that bothers me, sometimes it feels like particles, projectiles, and flames are encased in rectangles. Also I noticed that the mhk files are inside the HRP, does that mean the Maphacks zipfile is no longer needed?

On the topic of torrents:

I once downloaded a torrent simply because the HRP site(was a separate site back then) had all its mirrors broken. I downloaded it for the HRP packs aswell as the .cfg file since mine was messed up and I couldn't figure out what setting was wrong. The torrent also allowed me to check the MD5 of the Duke3D.grp against my own grp which had passed through two machines over TEN YEARS and 2 filesystems(one of my oldest files ever) and I feared some corruption. To my surprise they were still identical.

I'll give torrents their merit, especially with there being only ONE COPYRIGHT PROTECTED FILE in the middle of 10 times the size of HRP content. It's EASILY avoidable by unticking it before download unless the whole thing is a compressed archive.

I must say 2.7GB is too much for it to be just duke3d with HRP, I wouldn't trust such a torrent since it's most likely a mashup of a billion model packs, mods, and maps all in one and there are countless things that can go wrong since not all of them are still supported or well coded, especially if you happen to update EDuke32 to the current version and it breaks compatibility with some of these packs.

I'd buy it again if it came in a package for collector's purpose. The original packaging was lost somewhere along the timeline and I don't know if the disks even work anymore(I remember diskettes had a habit of going bad in about 2 years), furthermore I'd never open the package to retain maximum value. It was my first 3d game and I've been waiting in the shadows for its sequel ever since. But a digitally purchased download has lost its appeal to me.

[RuskiSnajper]

The Commander, on Jan 4 2010, 02:22 AM, said:

A part of the cost goes to the EDuke32 Dev's to help maintain website costs etc.

I really didn't know that , and , that the game is actually being sold by Eduke team , and then to cover costs for duke4.net ..., so , with permission from 3Drealms is being sold? , i actually don't know a lot about ... I wasn't in the community until I actually realized that Eduke(for playing on windows xp) even exists ...

From where I realized , it's a funny thing , from the 3DR forums search tags on May 2009 , one massive tag was "eDuke mod" , so i went on to check it out

[WedgeBob]

Hmm...wow, should've realized that part of that cost was for this. Thought it would've went towards George and Scott's DNF project fund (a little fund to keep the dreams of having DNF done and in our hands above water). Then again, if you go directly to 3DR to order a physical CD-ROM, I don't know if 3DR has any digital download option of their own like gog does, unless 3DR teamed up with them, it should really be the best of both worlds for both EDuke32 funding as well as another percentage of that going to help to develop the next chapter in Duke's gaming life (hopefully).

Both projects are equally as important for funding, we need to keep up on making Duke 3D live a long life in the PC gaming world, and we're doing exactly that, the eDuke32 project is making the future of this game very much possible. However, the more important thing to fund is to make sure that George and Scott has the money to make DNF happen, and continue forward, and I believe that's more vital to get DNF funded through that Duke 3D purchase, even tho the eDuke32 project will make the now 14-year-old Duke 3D game that much better on newer PCs.

[Master Fibbles]

I think Yatta and the Duke4 team have an arrangement with GoG such that anyone who goes from Duke4.net to GoG and then buys, Duke4 gets a percentage (finders fee).

[TerminX]

Yatta and I have an arrangement where a small percentage of each sale through our links is divided evenly between us. I think GoG's deal to sell Duke in the first place is through that new Apogee Software that's around now, but I'm not sure.

[zilp]

Here is something you might expect to see in Polymer rendered Duke, when it supports normal mapping.



It seems that I did the same mistake with this as with the last one: Forgot those black foot-thingies!

Hopefully someone can send me message when Polymer supports normal maps on models, so I can finish it

For those who are wondering, I made the model with Blender and a little help from Z-Brush trial version.

[Spiker]

Looks really sweet

[Danukem]

zilp, on Jan 10 2010, 01:35 AM, said:

Here is something you might expect to see in Polymer rendered Duke, when it supports normal mapping.

trooper2.jpg

It seems that I did the same mistake with this as with the last one: Forgot those black foot-thingies!

Hopefully someone can send me message when Polymer supports normal maps on models, so I can finish it

For those who are wondering, I made the model with Blender and a little help from Z-Brush trial version.

That looks really really good. I think the head is too big, though.

[Geoffrey]

I only now notice how his mouth is open half the time. Maybe it'd look good if it were closed during walking and such, only have it opened when shot and shooting?

[zilp]

Geoffrey, on Jan 10 2010, 02:33 PM, said:

I only now notice how his mouth is open half the time. Maybe it'd look good if it were closed during walking and such, only have it opened when shot and shooting?

Hmm.. that might be true.

I haven't actually redone any animations yet. I'll do that when the normal-map support is implemented and I start exporting the model.

I'll see then which looks the best.