[trackit]

A week has passed, no pressrelease no statement no nothing... i guess its time to move on. Actually im starting to kinda accept the idea that the whole 3DR and DNF have been shattered into million pieces and thats the end of it. Im getting back my rhythm of life so to speak. I think things will calm down from now on and people will forget the whole DNF saga.

Actually i can even understand George for not saying anything regarding the future of DNF because he have made that mistake before, i guess he doesnt want to cause any false promises or give people hope while he is not certain of the outcome. I guess if we ever hear about DNF again it would be: "its done!"

[MasterMike569]

Redcard, on May 14 2009, 06:43 AM, said:

The problem is, he thinks he can get away with that.

Instead of people actually getting in his face about this thing.. everyone nodded and said "Of course. When it's done. George knows more about making games than me, so sure."

When it's done is just not reliable in the real world, though.. and the fact is, nothing is ever as good as its hype. He should have been releasing on a regular basis, and just accepted that DNF was a pipe dream.. but that he can explore and see the things he wants in the "perfect" Duke game in a variety of games.

Half Life fans love Half Life because of the universe that has built up around it. This has come at the cost of many, many games. The fans continue to buy the games because they like what they see.

George should have accepted that people aren't perfect, the perfect game doesn't exist, but that he could try to deliver fun and entertaining games once every two years or so.

That way, he would have remained relevant.

But right now, he's irrelevant. He's a joke to many, and he's someone who made an "old game" to many others.

Totally true, however if George actually pulled it off it would of been something great. However ....like a dog, George's nose/face was rubbed in the giant piss puddle he left on the floor and like a coward he has ran off to go hide. Hopefully he has learned a good lesson from all this. However he might actually have something to say soon and prove us wrong but till then my thoughts stick.

crunchysuperman, on May 14 2009, 06:46 AM, said:

Well, even if there is good news with Duke, I doubt it'll make me feel any better. Losing 3DR is huge! Forget about Duke, those guys helped lay the groundwork for much of what I hold dear in the world of PC gaming.

3DR is totally huge but as with any team people come and go from there, but the legacy they built was the games they made which always stay. Duke was a big part of that legacy more so than the loving hands that put it together.

[The CarNagE Man]

I'm curious what will happen with the 3Drealms forum tomorrow.. that is the last day Joe is webmaster at 3DR...

[Santar]

I wonder if this was another company, who'd been working on a game with such high profile as Dnf.
Would they have made a statement about their game?

[naddie]

The CarNagE Man, on May 14 2009, 07:15 AM, said:

I'm curious what will happen with the 3Drealms forum tomorrow.. that is the last day Joe is webmaster at 3DR...

I'd hope all they do to Joe's account is to strip him from admin/mod access and let him be a standard user like us instead of completely disabling his account. THis way, he can still post like one of us.

[Master Fibbles]

I don't think he is concerned about Joe's position as mod...The whole place is liable to be nuked, tbh.

Maybe there will be an official statement tomorrow since it is the last day for Joe and Brian etc who are cleaning up the site. They were/are moving the site to a smaller, weaker server etc including the forum.

[Kathy]

trackit, on May 14 2009, 05:50 PM, said:

Actually i can even understand George for not saying anything regarding the future of DNF because he have made that mistake before, i guess he doesnt want to cause any false promises or give people hope while he is not certain of the outcome. I guess if we ever hear about DNF again it would be: "its done!"

People aren't expecting him to promise something or give hope. George just needs to say the current status of DNF. That is all.

[trackit]

Lotan, on May 14 2009, 05:47 PM, said:

People aren't expecting him to promise something or give hope. George just needs to say the current status of DNF. That is all.

yeah, but unless he says that DNF is totally canned, his words will be interpreted as hope. I mean if he says that "i will try to find another studio who would finish DNF" or "i will try to find an investor" or something like that then people will get all excited and if something goes wrong again then everybody will feel again that George let them down. I think that its best to keep quiet... let people live their lives and not to stirr up another madness.

[MasterMike569]

trackit, on May 14 2009, 07:23 AM, said:

yeah, but unless he says that DNF is totally canned, his words will be interpreted as hope. I mean if he says that "i will try to find another studio who would finish DNF" or "i will try to find an investor" or something like that then people will get all excited and if something goes wrong again then everybody will feel again that George let them down. I think that its best to keep quiet... let people live their lives and not to stirr up another madness.

hahahah and as everyone knows, madness stirs up quite often and minds run wild even with the littlest of info.

Lotan, on May 14 2009, 06:47 AM, said:

People aren't expecting him to promise something or give hope. George just needs to say the current status of DNF. That is all.

That would be nice, but yet to be seen.

[dino]

guess someone isn't giving up...

[motionblur]

Damn
Everything gets closed down bit by bit.
The large thread got nuked. The Apogee/3DR Memories threads are all locked....

I really wonder how the official press release on the matter will be - if there will be any.

[MasterMike569]

motionblur, on May 14 2009, 07:58 AM, said:

Damn
Everything gets closed down bit by bit.
The large thread got nuked. The Apogee/3DR Memories threads are all locked....

I really wonder how the official press release on the matter will be - if there will be any.

I wonder if they just wanted they wanted to lock the memories thread and leave them alone as Joe probably didnt want them to explode like every other thread due mainly to the closure of 3DR and GB using Duke as his personal buttwipe. Well speculation anyway.

[Mr.Deviance]

motionblur, on May 14 2009, 07:58 AM, said:

Damn
Everything gets closed down bit by bit.
The large thread got nuked. The Apogee/3DR Memories threads are all locked....

I really wonder how the official press release on the matter will be - if there will be any.

Did anybody think that George is not posting any news because he is in the middle of negotiations that will tell him if he will sell the game or not?
Did anybody think that maybe not even George Broussard knows if DNF will ever ship or not, at this point?
Everybody is seeing George as a guru but ever since those monster topics started over at 3dr I haven't seen not even one guy saying that George MIGHT NOT know YET what will happen with dnf! Maybe he simply doesn't know because after being screwed by take two, instead of saying FUCK IT and releasing the news that duke is dead, he obsessively started trying to get it sold with another publisher.
If he would be doing that, it would be very obvious to shut up until he is 100% certain that there is no chance left for the game to get sold.
Who is to say that he hasn't found a new publisher already that he will announce later this week or at the begining of the next week after they officially sign the papers?

[Microduke]

On 3drealms a member called Mr.Deviance mentioned a link:

http://www.jeremysoule.com/index2.html

In this scroller will appear someting strange...

[Redcard]

Mr.Deviance, on May 14 2009, 09:08 AM, said:

Did anybody think that George is not posting any news because he is in the middle of negotiations that will tell him if he will sell the game or not?
Did anybody think that maybe not even George Broussard knows if DNF will ever ship or not, at this point?
Everybody is seeing George as a guru but ever since those monster topics started over at 3dr I haven't seen not even one guy saying that George MIGHT NOT know YET what will happen with dnf simply because after being screwed by take two for he didn't see it coming and now instead of saying FUCK IT and releasing the news that duke is dead, he is obsessively trying to get it sold with another publisher.
If he would be doing that, it would be very obvious to shut up until he is 100% certain that there is no chance left for the game to get sold.

He'd also shut up if there was nothing really left to say.

You seem to be in a level of denial. Hundreds of projects get cancelled every year. Since the recession has made the economy go wacky, even more have been canceled this year. It's not the first thing to die on the vine in software, and it won't be the last.

This is unfortunate, yes.. but it's also just part of the life and death of software companies.

I think it's more likely that we'll see the assets transferred over to Apogee, LLC after DNT hits. I think we'll see them buy the rights to the IP. I think George will sell some of the technical UnReal engine modifications back to ID , and will try to sell some of the other technical assets out that way. I think he'll sell his patents out or license them out.

It's sad that it ends this way, but this isn't the only company that's ended this way. Even ACES, the Microsoft Flight Sim team, was all closed up and let go... and they have an extremely popular product that is almost a guranteed sale... owned by a company that releases tons of products and makes millions if not billions. But it wasn't enough, and their code and hard work are now gone. Sad fact of life. Anyone in this field knows this happens.

[Mr.Deviance]

Microduke, on May 14 2009, 08:09 AM, said:

On 3drealms a member called Mr.Deviance mentioned a link:

http://www.jeremysoule.com/index2.html

In this scroller will appear someting strange...

I wonder who that Mr.Deviance guy is, he seems like he knows more than he is saying

[Kathy]

trackit, on May 14 2009, 07:23 PM, said:

yeah, but unless he says that DNF is totally canned, his words will be interpreted as hope. I mean if he says that "i will try to find another studio who would finish DNF" or "i will try to find an investor" or something like that then people will get all excited and if something goes wrong again then everybody will feel again that George let them down. I think that its best to keep quiet... let people live their lives and not to stirr up another madness.

No "I will" or "I hope". Just the current state of DNF. "Cancelled", "Put on indefinite hold" or something like that.

Microduke, on May 14 2009, 08:09 PM, said:

On 3drealms a member called Mr.Deviance mentioned a link:

http://www.jeremysoule.com/index2.html

In this scroller will appear someting strange...

Because Jeremy doesn't know the status of the game.

[Microduke]

Mr.Deviance, on May 14 2009, 08:13 AM, said:

I wonder who that Mr.Deviance guy is, he seems like he knows more than he wants to say

Ooops...
Sorry i thought you aren't a member in this forum...

Damned! I'm blind....

[MasterMike569]

Mr.Deviance, on May 14 2009, 08:08 AM, said:

Did anybody think that George is not posting any news because he is in the middle of negotiations that will tell him if he will sell the game or not?
Did anybody think that maybe not even George Broussard knows if DNF will ever ship or not, at this point?
Everybody is seeing George as a guru but ever since those monster topics started over at 3dr I haven't seen not even one guy saying that George MIGHT NOT know YET what will happen with dnf! Maybe he simply doesn't know because after being screwed by take two, instead of saying FUCK IT and releasing the news that duke is dead, he obsessively started trying to get it sold with another publisher.
If he would be doing that, it would be very obvious to shut up until he is 100% certain that there is no chance left for the game to get sold.
Who is to say that he hasn't found a new publisher already that he will announce later this week or at the begining of the next week after they officially sign the papers?

Well thats just speculation too what George is or isn't doing or what he has or has not done. If he would update im sure alot of this hate or pointing the blame would be greatly minimized as they see he is trying to do something sooner rather than later finding out about it. So what we have going on now in the forums and what you have read since the 6th is the end result of him doing that. Its fair game.

Microduke, on May 14 2009, 08:09 AM, said:

On 3drealms a member called Mr.Deviance mentioned a link:

http://www.jeremysoule.com/index2.html

In this scroller will appear someting strange...

Haha he's doing the music score to the movie A Boy and his Dog. It just needs the little smiley face on the mushroom cloud.

[Micki!]

Duke is already doing his best earning back the money they need...

[MasterMike569]

[quote name='Micki!' post='16493' date='May 14 2009, 08:30 AM']Duke is already doing his best earning back the money they need...


LMAO before the picture loaded up, thats just what i was thinking except duke was dressed up like a fag and working the street corner.

Edit - took the pic out.

Thank you very much for sharing that pic Micki, loved it!

[Yatta]

Hahaha, great work Micki!

[Montykoro]

Mr.Deviance, on May 14 2009, 01:08 PM, said:

Did anybody think that George is not posting any news because he is in the middle of negotiations that will tell him if he will sell the game or not?

Are you George? only George Know that...

Mr.Deviance, on May 14 2009, 01:08 PM, said:

Who is to say that he hasn't found a new publisher already that he will announce later this week or at the begining of the next week after they officially sign the papers?

Only George know that... are you George?

[ryche]

Micki that's awesome!

[Micki!]

Thanks haha...
Redsplat told me to add tubes of vaseline on the pic, so i'm doing that now, haha...

Poor Duke...

[crunchysuperman]

Micki, you're a genius - that's fantastic!

[MasterMike569]

Micki!, on May 14 2009, 08:45 AM, said:

Thanks haha...
Redsplat told me to add tubes of vaseline on the pic, so i'm doing that now, haha...

Poor Duke...

LMAO that will be hilarious.

crunchysuperman, on May 14 2009, 08:45 AM, said:

Micki, you're a genius - that's fantastic!

Haha makes me wish i had some sort of skill in art, so i can draw duke as a fag on a street corner trying to make some money.

[Ramen4ever]

Micki!, on May 14 2009, 08:30 AM, said:

Duke is already doing his best earning back the money they need...

Gotta pay the rent somehow huh?

[Psyrgery]

MasterMike569, on May 14 2009, 05:59 PM, said:

Haha makes me wish i had some sort of skill in art, so i can draw duke as a fag on a street corner trying to make some money.

PLEASE, FOR GOD'S SAKE could you kindly stop double posting? There's an edit Button. USE IT.

And for those there hyping over Jeremy Soule's "Who-Knows-Ultra-Secret-Project"... Yes, it could be Duke Nukem Forever but...

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseact...logId=487643040

They guy just noticed what happened to 3DRealms the last week, so don't get your hopes too high.

He just needs to update his website. Just like 3DRealms and Take2

[ShXIII]

I love the George defenders....... screw this asshole he has had way more then enough time to say something to us, "its canceled" "we don't know" "we are working on it". This shit face has lost all credibility with me after the 14 year wait and him stringing all of us along STILL!!! Yes i want the game as much as the rest of you but screw the management at 3DR and there feelings because that's how we are getting treated. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH