[Kathy]

A proper thread for spoilerish game discussion.

P.S. Still waiting for "soon" despite already living in July 31st.

[OpenMaw]

22 hours to go here.

[Kathy]

You should still probably be able to play once it unlocks on GOG, which could be 30th in your case. Don't know about steam's policy on digital-only titles.

[ReaperMan]

Spoiler

The shotgun is going to be called the Rottgun

[OpenMaw]

ReaperMan, on 30 July 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

Spoiler

The shotgun is going to be called the Rottgun

Now I know this is the best game ever.

[Lunick]

Here's a pretty clear video of the first level and the Castle Multiplayer map again. Too bad nobody who reviews this game is good so far

[OpenMaw]

Oh my God... Five minutes into that video and I just want to choke a bitch. Seriously.

[termit]

Just curious where did you guys pre-ordered your copy of ROTT: GOG or Steam? Good guy Green gift me a GOG key.

[Lunick]

I pre ordered mine through Green Man Gaming since it was cheaper even though it is a Steam key which won't unlock until 5 am for me

[The Commander]

5 hours left for me...

[Kathy]

Checkpoints suck. Level 2 has a big gap between checkpoints to not notice it. Especially if you're gonna spring a death trap.

[Kathy]

Played 3 levels.

- my girl sometimes speak like a man
- unlimited ammo on all weapons except rocket launchers(you can basically hold LMB entire level)
- game is built around quickly completing levels
- enemies mostly stand there waiting to sponge damage and then die
- rockets/melee don't destroy glass

Checkpoints meh. After dying the last thing you want is to go again through that part of a level to collect all the coins and secrets. There are 2-4 checkpoints per level.

"There's enough checkpoints in each level that no matter where you die you'll never lose more than a minute or so of progress". (q) Dave.
Unless you're doing a speedrun, which this game I assume was built around, you'll lose enough to be annoyed.

[Player Lin]

Kathy, on 31 July 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:

Checkpoints meh. After dying the last thing you want is to go again through that part of a level to collect all the coins and secrets. There are 2-4 checkpoints per level.

2~4 checkpoints pre level? It's not enough at all...
*sigh*

That's the reason I hate checkpoints, because always must redo anything like collecting shit or do something already done due I were dead and restart. What stupid...


I still have 3 hours to wait my copy on Steam unlocked......

[xMobilemux]

The checkpoints suck alright, but the thing that annoyed me the most was the scripted events that stop you from going back.

[The Commander]

Why has this game unlocked for you guys and not me, wtf ffs.

[Kathy]

GOG

[Kristian Joensen]

I have a weird/annoying bug with ROTT: The camera keeps spinning around.

[Kathy]

So... episode 1 is down. To put it bluntly, SP is shit. After several deaths I didn't give a rat's ass about secrets, coins or other crap, but just wanted the damn level be done with. Having a checkpoint system with so much crap to gather in a level is a nightmare. And platforming sucks with that kind of speed without option to just walk.

P.S. Can't compare with original ROTT since I never played it.

[Mikko]

Sounds like the new ROTT is very fast while the old one was incredibly slow and dull.

[Lunick]

This needs a manual saving system really really bad. I didn't die on the first level but in the second there is this cool "mega secret" labeled area that is filled with nice instadeath traps. I wouldn't have been so mad if the game didn't set me back 25% of the way labeled on the hud bar thingy

Edit: So I decided to go a bit further past the secret in the level to see if I could trigger a different checkpoint save but instead doors closed behind me so I couldn't revisit that part of the level again The flamewall also looks like a cool weapon but feels piss weak at times. What is going on :/

[Inspector Lagomorf]

Lunick, on 31 July 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:

Edit: So I decided to go a bit further past the secret in the level to see if I could trigger a different checkpoint save but instead doors closed behind me so I couldn't revisit that part of the level again The flamewall also looks like a cool weapon but feels piss weak at times. What is going on :/

They got rid of backtracking??????

[Hool]

Comrade Major, on 31 July 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

They got rid of backtracking??????

Is this true? How can it be classed as 90's throwback FPS when you cant backtrack through the level? FPS's back in the day where fun because it was non-linear, remember in Duke 3D you could enter the Movie Theatre from the entrance or at the back exit.

[fgsfds]

Comrade Major, on 31 July 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

They got rid of backtracking??????

It seems they are. Just stuck on level 2 with 2 hp and hoard of enemies ahead. The door is closed behind me, so I can't go back for some hp.

[Inspector Lagomorf]

fgsfds, on 31 July 2013 - 10:37 AM, said:

It seems they are. Just stuck on level 2 with 2 hp and hoard of enemies ahead. The door is closed behind me, so I can't go back for some hp.

[Player Lin]

Take half hour in total to beat E1L1...without all secrets found... feel not bad but ruined by no manual saving...

E1L1 has no checkpoint(or I didn't triggered it when I played this level about 3~4 times...? I don't know)...death near the exit room and restart all over from beginning of this goddamn beginning level, wasted my 10+ minutes of play for searching secrets. Fine, my computer is old and even with low setting, it still on low fps/long loading time on many part of game, then affected my play skill...


In my opinion, this game really needed a manual saving system...even though I just don't want going back again after I got killed...

[Radar]

WheatleyNukem, on 31 July 2013 - 10:27 AM, said:

Is this true? How can it be classed as 90's throwback FPS when you cant backtrack through the level? FPS's back in the day where fun because it was non-linear, remember in Duke 3D you could enter the Movie Theatre from the entrance or at the back exit.

I remember pressing a nuke button that took you to the streets of a red light district, with a broken elevator blocking you from going back to that movie theater.




Ok, to name real in-level scripted sequences in Duke3D that don't allow the player to backtrack: The Abyss had no way to get out of the alien ship after falling in, Movie Set blew the whole place behind you once you neared the nuke button, The Queen had no way to get out of the boss pit, and I recall a map called Critical Mass that consisted of doors falling behind you each second.

[Inspector Lagomorf]

Ms. Radar, on 31 July 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

I remember pressing a nuke button that took you to the streets of a red light district, with a broken elevator blocking you from going back to that movie theater.

Or when the nuclear plant blows the fuck up at the end of E4L8, preventing you from going back inside...

[Kristian Joensen]

Kristian Joensen, on 31 July 2013 - 09:42 AM, said:

I have a weird/annoying bug with ROTT: The camera keeps spinning around.

http://www.youtube.c...eature=youtu.be

[Lunick]

Kristian Joensen, on 31 July 2013 - 10:56 AM, said:

http://www.youtube.c...eature=youtu.be

Reminds me of a game that had anti piracy measures in it.

[Marphy Black]

The no backtracking thing is true. Every time you hit a checkpoint, the door (or something) instantly locks behind you. This is doubly bad as there's absolutely no indication that the door you're about to walk through is going to be a checkpoint. If you want to go back get some health, look for more secrets, or even just pick up the full rocket launcher you left behind in the last room, you're completely out of luck unless you simply want to play the entire previous area again from a past checkpoint.

It's true that other 90s shooters had areas that prevented backtracking, but ROTT 2013's handling of this is completely artificial and very obviously a consequence of the lack of manual saving.