[Inspector Lagomorf]

Paul B, on 26 July 2013 - 06:44 AM, said:

The well known phrase is suppose to go: "my mistake your fault" and its a saying you say jokingly.

So I can call you a tool, and it's okay because I meant it as a joke?

[Fox]

The heck? Paul B said four savorless words and now he is Hitler?

[Inspector Lagomorf]

Fox, on 26 July 2013 - 07:09 AM, said:

The heck? Paul B said four savorless words and now he is Hitler?

I ask a rhetorical question and I'm Stalin?

[Hank]

holy shit guys!
"Makin' mistakes ain't a crime, you know. What's the use of having a reputation if you can't ruin it every now and then?"
― Simone Elkeles

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=cnBhCck4odc

also, English is the most used abused language on the planet so Paul stretched it a bit. So what?

[OpenMaw]

Hank, on 26 July 2013 - 07:41 AM, said:

also, English is the most used abused language on the planet so Paul stretched it a bit. So what?

I SAY WE STRETCH HIM BACK!

Oh yeah! MEDIEVAL STYLE!


Just kidding, Paul B.

[MusicallyInspired]

Never heard that before either. I'm English.

[Jimmy]

Well Paul, I thought it was funny.

[Radar]

Yeah but no one likes you Jimmy.

[TerminX]

Yeah Jimmy, get to the back of the bus!

[Jimmy]

That's where all the cool kids are anyway.

[Skulldog]

Wow, How about that Duke Nukem Megaton Edition on Steam. <Cough, Aachew, Fart>

[Minigunner]

Even in the public beta, there are issues I am not very happy with:
- Pistol no longer has the pinpoint-when-aimed-at-monsters accuracy, which can demote it to a starting weapon with no other purpose than to be last-resort (for most people).
- The shrunken fist animation is way too fast.
- There are still sound garbling issues.
- You have to MANUALLY load a quicksave when you die; pressing use just restarts the level rather than asking you if you want to load the last quicksave.
I'm pretty sure they got complaints about that already, but they're too busy with Shadow Warrior to do anything about it.

[Ronin]

Jimmy, on 26 July 2013 - 11:43 AM, said:

That's where all the cool kids are anyway.

I saw that photo on my phone and thought you were a 40 year old trucker.

[t800]

Minigunner, on 26 July 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

- Pistol no longer has the pinpoint-when-aimed-at-monsters accuracy, which can demote it to a starting weapon with no other purpose than to be last-resort (for most people).

Hmm, I dont have Megaton edition (but I played Jfduke in past, which in many basic things is almost same as I heard), but do I read this correctly that you want Devolver to actually change behaviour of pistol from vanilla game?
Because, well pistol really isnt supposed to have pinpoint accuracy. But IMHO pistol is more useful than you may think, because it uses up its own ammo type (instead of for example Dooms pistol, which get redundant after getting chaingun) so I personally recommend it using against weakest enemies (slimers, sharks, turrets [but only for lonely ones] assualt troopers and captains) or for shooting buttons or blowing up explosive barrels.
(Is it just me so conservative with not using strong weapons against weak enemies? Because in most videos I see players blasting off troopers with shotgun?!)

[Ronin]

t800, on 26 July 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

(Is it just me so conservative with not using strong weapons against weak enemies? Because in most videos I see players blasting off troopers with shotgun?!)

Shooting troopers with a shotgun for me is the most satisfying thing you can do in Duke 3D, even better when they start choking and then you shoot again even though you don't need to. It's sublime.

[Striker]

Minigunner, on 26 July 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

Even in the public beta, there are issues I am not very happy with:
- Pistol no longer has the pinpoint-when-aimed-at-monsters accuracy, which can demote it to a starting weapon with no other purpose than to be last-resort (for most people).

You need to turn on Auto-aim. It's off by default. Turn it on, and things will return to vanilla behavior.

Minigunner, on 26 July 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

- The shrunken fist animation is way too fast.

Thought they fixed that in the public beta.

[Minigunner]

StrikerMan780, on 26 July 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

You need to turn on Auto-aim. It's off by default. Turn it on, and things will return to vanilla behavior.

Okay, it works with auto-aim on. Though really, I should wonder why the pinpoint-accurate thing still occurs with auto-aim off in EDuke32. I just like the fact that it has that kind of behavior because it makes the pistol actually useful for taking down enemies, even when you have ammo for your other weapons.

StrikerMan780, on 26 July 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

Thought they fixed that in the public beta.

Whoops, I was wrong, they did.

My point on the lack of the load-last-save dialogue still stands, though. I'm used to that, and there were several occasions in which I have accidentally overwritten saves because I'm not used to having to manually quickload the game after death.

[TerminX]

Minigunner, on 26 July 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Okay, it works with auto-aim on. Though really, I should wonder why the pinpoint-accurate thing still occurs with auto-aim off in EDuke32. I just like the fact that it has that kind of behavior because it makes the pistol actually useful for taking down enemies, even when you have ammo for your other weapons.

Whoops, I was wrong, they did.

My point on the lack of the load-last-save dialogue still stands, though. I'm used to that, and there were several occasions in which I have accidentally overwritten saves because I'm not used to having to manually quickload the game after death.

EDuke32 implements specific functionality to boost the accuracy for the pistol when autoaim is disabled, as long as the crosshair is directly aimed at an enemy when firing. This is to compensate for the huge amount of autoaim in the original game that couldn't be disabled. Without such compensation, the weapons aren't really balanced as they were in the DOS version anymore (plus it would be really unfair in multiplayer for one guy to have an accurate pistol and the other to have a useless one).

[Fox]

Though I don't think you should change the gameplay like that...

[Paul B]

Fox, on 27 July 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

Though I don't think you should change the gameplay like that...

Interesting, I thought it was a good idea. =S Why would changing it that way be a bad thing?

You were just joking right fox? =P

[TerminX]

Fox, on 27 July 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

Though I don't think you should change the gameplay like that...

The change goes more towards preserving gameplay (e.g makes the weapon function closer to the original DOS executable) than changing it; anyone that doesn't like it can go make their own goddamn Duke3D port.

[Paul B]

TerminX, on 27 July 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

The change goes more towards preserving gameplay (e.g makes the weapon function closer to the original DOS executable) than changing it; anyone that doesn't like it can go make their own goddamn Duke3D port.

[Fox]

Now do it without what is obviously a mirror behind.

TerminX, on 27 July 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

The change goes more towards preserving gameplay (e.g makes the weapon function closer to the original DOS executable) than changing it; anyone that doesn't like it can go make their own goddamn Duke3D port.

And I tought you was more grow up than me...

[OpenMaw]

TerminX, on 27 July 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

The change goes more towards preserving gameplay (e.g makes the weapon function closer to the original DOS executable) than changing it; anyone that doesn't like it can go make their own goddamn Duke3D port.

TX, easy on the bottle there man. You get a little grumpy.

[Skulldog]

Commando Nukem, on 27 July 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

TX, easy on the bottle there man. You get a little grumpy.

Get him a snickers bar.

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[TerminX]

Ha, very funny. Now you DIE!

[Jimmy]

TerminX, on 27 July 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

The change goes more towards preserving gameplay (e.g makes the weapon function closer to the original DOS executable) than changing it; anyone that doesn't like it can go make their own goddamn Duke3D port.

> Being this based.

[Person of Color]

FOX GOT FUCKED BY BASED DICK

Skulldog, on 27 July 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:

Get him a snickers bar.

"TX, eat a Snickers."

"Why?"

"Because you turn into High Treason when you're hungry."

"Better?"



"Better."

[NUKEMDAVE]

I see July brought no multiplayer.

[Lunick]

They're working on it. They did just push out Linux versions of the game and Shadow Warrior.