360 Demo Leaked? Do not support piracy!
#571 Posted 05 June 2011 - 02:25 AM
"Full game has been LEAKED. Apparently it is a russian version from publisher 1c-Softclub"
Size: 3.86 GB
Seems real.
This post has been edited by Fox Mulder: 05 June 2011 - 02:34 AM
#572 Posted 05 June 2011 - 02:27 AM
Fox Mulder, on 05 June 2011 - 02:25 AM, said:
"Full game has been LEAKED. Apparently it is a russian version from publisher 1c-Softclub"
Size: 3.86 GB
Seems real.
3.86gbs the whole game ?
can't be true.
#573 Posted 05 June 2011 - 02:54 AM
we get the game on friday, so lets not concern ourselves with bs.
#574 Posted 05 June 2011 - 02:59 AM
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#575 Posted 05 June 2011 - 03:06 AM
#576 Posted 05 June 2011 - 03:12 AM
zwieback, on 05 June 2011 - 02:59 AM, said:
Unfortunetly the demo has been leaked and is possible to be played by non FAC members.
#577 Posted 05 June 2011 - 03:23 AM
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#578 Posted 05 June 2011 - 03:41 AM
MrBlackCat, on 31 May 2011 - 07:29 AM, said:
But seriously... this thread is disturbing... or the shallowness within is. It is very black and white with me... cutesy statements and cliche' and other meaningless social statements being used as "real" argument for copying software is pretty sad.
There has been no real argument (because there isn't one) that holds any validity in this thread relative to stealing someones software.
Just like Raziel said, you pay for the experience. If you experience it without paying, it is "stealing" no matter what you want to call it.
MrBlackCat
Thing is, people will have a selective view. You say these things, but do you have illegal MP3s on your computer? If not - maximum respect to you. You have principals which you stick to, regardless of how it might make certain things more difficult/inaccessible for you. However, if you're one of those that deplores piracy on a video game level, but torrents MP3s, DVDrips and the like.. you are a contradictory fag who has anti-stealing principals only when it suits you, and not when it doesn't.
I hope you're the former. Of course you'll say that you are, and if you do I'll believe you. Just know that you can't really prove this to me, which means that others who've taken your side in this argument cannot prove their law-abiding internet use to you. Do you believe that all these people here deploring video game piracy don't illegally torrent other kinds of entertainment? Statistically, most of them do, which makes most of them contradictory fags.
#579 Posted 05 June 2011 - 05:05 AM
coheed82, on 05 June 2011 - 03:06 AM, said:
Taking in account the game has been in development since a long time, and how critics claims the graphics are out-dated, besides the Demo size (around 1.5gb), that seems fair
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#580 Posted 05 June 2011 - 06:52 AM
#581 Posted 05 June 2011 - 08:33 AM
Martin, on 05 June 2011 - 03:41 AM, said:
I hope you're the former. Of course you'll say that you are, and if you do I'll believe you. Just know that you can't really prove this to me, which means that others who've taken your side in this argument cannot prove their law-abiding internet use to you. Do you believe that all these people here deploring video game piracy don't illegally torrent other kinds of entertainment? Statistically, most of them do, which makes most of them contradictory fags.
I agree with what you say relative to selective view. I do things based in principles and concept rather than more subjective. Stealing is stealing to me. This could be screwing around in the bathroom at work when you could be working. You are being paid and not supplying what is being paid for.
But more specifically on topic... MP3, or game or any media. I have a lot of MP3's on my computer... I own the record (I'm older), the tape, or the CD for all of them. I made a lot of them, with software I paid for. If they weren't given to me by a musician, I own them. I enjoy paying for MP3's and Music Videos from valid services. I encourage others to do so as well.
People used to just copy games and give them to me... I erased them. I knew early programmers though, so it was more personal for me to see people using their software and their kids need socks.
I do the best I can applying concepts to situations, which like anyones thinking, will never be perfect, but I am human. I state that as a reason, not an excuse. If I believe something I truly wrong, I don't do it, law or not. I know many peoples right and wrong is what is defined by law, or simply what they can get away with, legal or not. I DO believe that some people who take MP3's and Games don't realize or believe it is wrong. That is why I was trying to point out that it is to me... and why.
MrBlackCat
This post has been edited by MrBlackCat: 05 June 2011 - 08:36 AM
#582 Posted 05 June 2011 - 08:49 AM
MrBlackCat, on 05 June 2011 - 08:33 AM, said:
Right, and so do other 'borrowers'. I do this on a daily basis. I download songs, those I like I get a copy from iTunes, the rest are toast. I 'borrow' a game; I like it, I buy my own copy, I don't like, it's gone. Especially considering the size of modern games. Ditto for one obvious demo, I just borrowed. I know in your eyes I'm the bad guy. Well here is your chance -click on red. I won't change. There is a huge difference between theft, infringing on copyrights and simple coping.
#583 Posted 05 June 2011 - 09:27 AM
Hank, on 05 June 2011 - 08:49 AM, said:
Let me use a car metaphor... You test drive a car don't you? This is why I love shareware and Demos and so on. What would be the difference between going to a friends house and trying it out and doing what you just described? Nothing to me.
Hank said:
What I am talking about is people who have NO intention of buying a game or song and their ONLY reason for copying it is "circumvention of payment". Unless I misunderstood what you just typed, you don't fall into this category.
There are thousands who would NEVER pay for a game no matter how much the enjoyed it... those are why the laws exist in the first place.
Is like with the DooM II... there never was a Demo because DooM 1 had shareware and the engine was basically the same... if you liked DooM and wanted more, there was no reason to need to "try" DooM II.
So the evaluation idea might be gray area with DooM II for instance.
It isn't "the act" it is the "intent". Many have NO intention paying for a game they can copy. If someone plays an entire game for evaluation... then that is getting pretty iffy. Like eating the whole steak and then saying it wasn't very good.
In fairness... you are not likely the problem and the undetectably small minority. I have legal data experience in this area that suggests you and myself would be in the 0.5% range. All of the context of your post is within trial or evaluation. None of the context of my earlier posts was intended within that context.
No negatives Hank... it does bother me that my view is so unclear you would think that.
MrBlackCat
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#584 Posted 05 June 2011 - 09:40 AM
#585 Posted 05 June 2011 - 09:56 AM
zwieback, on 05 June 2011 - 09:40 AM, said:
LOL!
Wow... that is funny from my point of view. Hehehe
I should sell the t-shirts... "I'm a BUYFAG! TAKE MY MONEY!"
Mr.BlackCat
#586 Posted 05 June 2011 - 10:09 AM
#588 Posted 05 June 2011 - 06:12 PM
DN4EVR, on 05 June 2011 - 01:45 PM, said:
MrBlackCat
#589 Posted 05 June 2011 - 06:55 PM
Fox, on 05 June 2011 - 05:05 AM, said:
The game is said to be longer than 12 hours... and the demo (being 1.8 gb) was only 20 minutes long.... your math doesn't add up.
#590 Posted 05 June 2011 - 07:32 PM
DavoX, on 05 June 2011 - 06:55 PM, said:
MrBlackCat
#591 Posted 05 June 2011 - 07:38 PM
MrBlackCat, on 05 June 2011 - 07:32 PM, said:
http://unrealtournam...ent_3/Maps;5853
#592 Posted 05 June 2011 - 07:39 PM
Hank, lets talk about official maps here, not fan made ones.
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#593 Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:56 AM
#594 Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:21 AM
I think I did. Mr. BlackCat wanted to know the size of a map. What has the fan made aspect to do with it? Anyway fan made from UT3 instead of Tournament http://www.map-factory.org/ut3/4 . It is difficult to give a map/set size. It depends how many objects are embedded in it and associated art work. I think any use of a mathematical formula what the demo/game ratio is, is a wild guess.
#595 Posted 06 June 2011 - 07:34 AM
#596 Posted 06 June 2011 - 08:46 AM
Hank, on 06 June 2011 - 05:21 AM, said:
I think I did. Mr. BlackCat wanted to know the size of a map. What has the fan made aspect to do with it? Anyway fan made from UT3 instead of Tournament http://www.map-factory.org/ut3/4 . It is difficult to give a map/set size. It depends how many objects are embedded in it and associated art work. I think any use of a mathematical formula what the demo/game ratio is, is a wild guess.
DavoX, on 06 June 2011 - 07:34 AM, said:
That is why I asked. I have no experience with modern stuff, so no point in trying to estimate the complexity of modern maps as I have not done any maps since Duke 3D and that was only a couple. I don't really even remember the size of Duke Maps... but I have about 10,000 of them and they don't take up much space. (compilation shovel-ware fan stuff of course)
Thanks
MrBlackCat
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#597 Posted 06 June 2011 - 12:05 PM
#598 Posted 06 June 2011 - 02:21 PM
DavoX, on 06 June 2011 - 12:05 PM, said:
As usual I stand corrected.
#600 Posted 07 June 2011 - 01:10 PM
The Commander, on 07 June 2011 - 11:46 AM, said:
The next time some idiot say "PC piracy is the problem" i will remember this...
EDIT: ps3 version leaked...
This post has been edited by Montykoro: 07 June 2011 - 01:22 PM