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#21482 Posted 16 July 2019 - 10:31 AM
Anyway
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#21483 Posted 17 July 2019 - 02:15 PM
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#21484 Posted 17 July 2019 - 03:07 PM
MusicallyInspired, on 17 July 2019 - 02:15 PM, said:
...well, Duke looked too young in dnf. Hell, he looked even younger than in 3D...
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#21485 Posted 17 July 2019 - 11:20 PM
#21489 Posted 19 July 2019 - 04:26 AM
#21491 Posted 21 July 2019 - 06:37 PM
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#21492 Posted 22 July 2019 - 04:44 AM
#21494 Posted 22 July 2019 - 02:32 PM
We almost lost him at birth; he was born with the umbilical chord wrapped around his neck three times and in a true knot, when he started crowning it tightened around his neck.
Because my wife pushed his ass out in just two single pushes, he lived and is healthy.
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#21495 Posted 22 July 2019 - 04:08 PM
HulkNukem, on 22 July 2019 - 02:32 PM, said:
wow.
sounds kinda scary. glad your wife & child came through the ordeal okay.
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#21497 Posted 24 July 2019 - 08:09 PM
I just find that asking stupid questions like how are you doing, and giving the same answer every week is grinding my gears.
Why do people do it?
#21498 Posted 24 July 2019 - 08:42 PM
Jeff, on 24 July 2019 - 08:09 PM, said:
I just find that asking stupid questions like how are you doing, and giving the same answer every week is grinding my gears.
Why do people do it?
It's an amicable greeting between primates dating back to our ancestral roots.
Giving and receiving the reply is just general method to determine the friendliness of another monkey that is used to reassure us that the other monkey isn't going to bonk us over the head with a rock and steal our bananas.
#21499 Posted 24 July 2019 - 09:11 PM
If someone starts blabbing about stuff I don't really care about, I just tell them I've got stuff to do. Some people I know are real chatterboxes. And I leave out the "do I give a fuck about you asking me the same questions every week and giving out the same responses".
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#21500 Posted 24 July 2019 - 09:13 PM
Jeff, on 24 July 2019 - 09:11 PM, said:
If someone starts blabbing about stuff I don't really care about, I just tell them I've got stuff to do. And I leave out the "do I give a fuck about you asking me the same questions every week and giving out the same responses".
You're the monkey that people think are going to bonk them on the head with a rock and steal their bananas
#21501 Posted 25 July 2019 - 01:47 AM
Jeff, on 24 July 2019 - 08:09 PM, said:
The problem is lack of sincerity which is pretty global, in fact it affected our daily lives greatly in general and there is another problem too. After all, this is just a plain etiquette, this is how a civilized person with manners is supposed to act in society. But the lack of sincerity in their words itself is pretty insulting and does make the situation quite stupid, that and the way how they do it in general. While people do know about those simple things, at the same time they don't really have proper understanding on how to act or use this knowledge, they use those sentences like some templates and this is where comes the second big problem in my opinion, they just give no efforts when it comes to communication.
For example, I had plenty of such situations, when some people were trying to ask me favors they usually started with typical "hello, how are you doing?" sentence instead of going straight to the business. In itself, again, there is really nothing wrong about this phrase, this is what people were taught to do after all since asking for a favor in straight manner isn't supposed to be really good manner, mainly it is used when one person didn't see another one for a long period of time. However, when they say it I can feel they don't really give a shit about how exactly I'm doing, even the body language says this usually. In some cases it's executed so bad they don't even want you to respond properly to their question (in detail), neither they want you to ask them the same question. In fact, when I managed to ask the same question too, those people simply were responding with standard short "I'm fine" template and went straight to the business.
Now, a rush can be understandable in certain situations, such as when people are in hurry and can't waste too much time to deal with a problem (those situations are typical where I'm working), but instead of fake, non-sincere questions that are quite insulting they could really, well, go straight to the business while being also civil. This is personally what I'm usually doing, explaining the situation and then asking for a help, while starting with standard greeting, unless it's been extremely long since I talked to the person, in that case I usually ask those typical questions in sincere manner after asking for a favor when I'm not in hurry anymore.
But overall, when people ask those etiquette question in such manner, I still tend to give them sincere answers, usually elaborating on how I'm doing and shit like that, it depends from how long I haven't spoke to the person, in return I'm asking them the same question, but usually in more detailed manner (i.e. "what's new?", "how is that thing you were doing?" or other questions depending from context). In fact, even my English teacher taught me this when we had an etiquette topic, "you should always show that you're sincere and ask more detailed questions" she said.
Still, there is no reason to be hostile towards the people who act like this. You're not the only guy who thinks that non-sincere template questions are a waste of time, people do in fact understand this, they simply do as society told them (and yes, those phrases turning into generic templates was caused exactly by society itself, many things nowadays feel extremely pretentious thanks to the media, broken education and lack of culture). Instead of acting hostile (and seen as a guy with anger issues) you could either explain them yourself better (some might call you a creep if those people are just acquaintances) or better teach them how to behave by acting yourself properly. In worst case scenario you would show people that you're pretty good guy that has better manners compared to other people, in best case you may set a positive example.
There is also another problem of course, when people really have nothing to say, like at all which is why they tend to use template sentences to start communication, usually it also includes another popular sentences related to weather.
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#21503 Posted 25 July 2019 - 05:26 AM
Sledgehammer, on 25 July 2019 - 01:47 AM, said:
they don't really give a shit about how exactly I'm doing, even the body language says this usually. In some cases it's executed so bad they don't even want you to respond properly to their question (in detail), neither they want you to ask them the same question. In fact, when I managed to ask the same question too, those people simply were responding with standard short "I'm fine" template and went straight to the business.
Everybody acts like this because society has decayed to the point of collapse - they all know you're competition when the big-one drops.
I drag those greetings out on purpose and enthusiastically ask how people are doing. Everyone. Even telemarketers. Then I give the uncomfortable pause until they answer me. If they give the typical "fine", I drag it out. "Are you sure?", "I know your job can be stressful, be sure to take time for yourself once in awhile.", etc.
I like being amicable, even though I'd shoot them over half a deer carcass. Nobody does it anymore and it throws everyone off their game.
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#21504 Posted 25 July 2019 - 05:56 AM
#21505 Posted 25 July 2019 - 06:55 AM
MusicallyInspired, on 25 July 2019 - 05:56 AM, said:
People on the phone - especially receptionists calling to remind me of doctors appointments - which is 99% of the calls I receive. Maybe 1 in 50. It really messes them up when someone asks them if they're doing okay.
In person, like cashiers, or roaming retail associates. Probably about 1 in 5. Depends on the time of year. Holiday & shopping seasons cause the number to drop because they are entirely fed up people.
If I start in on how annoying people are and how inconsiderate some shoppers can get, I can usually get the number to go up if I use empathy for their position and tell them to keep their head up.
I can tell that it messes with them though. They have this dead look to their eyes when I first make contact with them, but then I see the expression change to, "What is this guy doing getting into my bubble?", After the initial shock, I can get them out of robot-mode for a few verbal exchanges until the encounter is over.
Most rando people walking around don't talk to, much less look at, anybody else as they move about through their day.
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#21506 Posted 25 July 2019 - 07:04 AM
#21507 Posted 25 July 2019 - 01:54 PM
MusicallyInspired, on 25 July 2019 - 05:56 AM, said:
Absolutely. Though those people are my friends that I know for a decade already, some of those people I would also consider almost as my family. When time passed they eventually stopped asking me those etiquette questions for the sake of asking (probably because I don't do that myself and because we're not random people to each other), usually we ask each other those questions if we haven't met or spoke for a long period of time, it goes in detail even if nothing much happened in our lives during this time.
Now, random people? The answer is never which shouldn't be surprising. Also, I forgot about lack of empathy too as a reason.
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#21508 Posted 26 July 2019 - 02:06 AM
Jeff, on 24 July 2019 - 08:09 PM, said:
I just find that asking stupid questions like how are you doing, and giving the same answer every week is grinding my gears.
Why do people do it?
I don't even really like saying "Hey how are you doing" every time I see the people I work with everyday 5 days a week. I'd much rather either just nod or immediately start getting into a conversation about something I wanted to talk about.
Even worse when a customer walks up and says they have a question, I ask them whats their question, and they reply with something to the effect of "...well I'm great, how are you?" as if trying to get me to ask them how they are doing first before I can help them.
I don't give a shit, cut to the chase so I can help you and get you out of my hair.
It's worse than when an item doesn't ring up at a store and you get the response "IT MUST BE FREE!"
Having done retail for almost 11 years now, 6 at my family business, I recognize most customers and they cut to the chase too. Its a great no bullshit place.
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#21509 Posted 26 July 2019 - 03:42 AM
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#21510 Posted 26 July 2019 - 07:16 AM
Mark, on 26 July 2019 - 03:42 AM, said:
Boring....