[Master Fibbles]

Vengeance, true...but in an anarchal kind of way. He overthrew the government...
quite frankly, the director of the movie (which is most people's exposure to both V and Guy Fawkes) really was going for anarchy. At least that is how pretty much everyone I know who saw it felt.

[Kathy]

spoiler

Spoiler

He overthrew the government because of the vengeance. All this "government should be afraid of its people" crap was only an excuse for him for his vengeance. It's just happened that those people were also leaders of the party. That's why in the end he asked Evey to make her own choice whether to blow up the building or not. Although, to be fair, blowing up the building and rallying people in the streets were pretty much unnecessary since all nation leaders were dead anyway.

[Master Fibbles]

I'm on the internet, I know everything.









Now, to change the subject:
This graveyard shift sucks today because I didn't take my nap before hand...started talking to people and before I knew it I had to go to work in an hour and I hadn't slept at all...I took naps during work though since the place was dead.

[Yatta]

Anyone see that Duke "Epitaph" footage that got leaked tonight? They pulled it off the torrents and FTPs but I managed to grab a copy and upload it to my server before that happened.

http://www.orientali....nf_epitaph.wmv

Hopefully this won't kill my bandwidth... I'm not going ot post it anywhere else for a while because I'm not sure about the legality or the bandwidth affordability for that matter.

[Kathy]

This link is wrong...

http://www.orientali...dnf_epitaph.wmv

P.S. And I hope someone would actually sue you for that.

[Sangman]

How unpredictable.

[Jimmy]

You're such a virgin, Loov.

[Master Fibbles]

Could be worse, he could be one of those people who have an ambiguous sexuality. It is scary sometimes how much some dudes look like a chick until you get close enough...or the other way around

[SkullHacker]

Checking in...

I know I'm not posting particularly often... Its not that I don't want to post... Its just that I don't have much interesting to say really.
But I'm still lurking, almost daily. Hell, wouldn't want to miss any of Yatta's videos...

Oh and all the interesting Duke Nukem related projects might also have something to do with it...

Damnit... my internet connection is breaking down again... constantly losing internet connection, and I'm pretty sure it's the provider's fault...
gonna change to UPC internet soon anyway. Lets hope thats better.

[Kathy]

Mr.Flibble, on Nov 9 2009, 11:29 PM, said:

Could be worse, he could be one of those people who have an ambiguous sexuality. It is scary sometimes how much some dudes look like a chick until you get close enough...or the other way around

David Bowie in the 70s was awesome.

And I don't really know whether or not it is that scary as you made it sound. Let's say you found some dude sexually attractive. So what? It doesn't make you gay or even bi. It's not like you should go and bang him in the ass now...or the other way around.

Most likely I'm overdoing it but whatever. I like this subject.

SkullHacker said:

I know I'm not posting particularly often... Its not that I don't want to post... Its just that I don't have much interesting to say really.

Only the mod forum is truly alive here...

[Master Fibbles]

Lotan, on Nov 9 2009, 05:30 PM, said:

And I don't really know whether or not it is that scary as you made it sound. Let's say you found some dude sexually attractive. So what? It doesn't make you gay or even bi. It's not like you should go and bang him in the ass now...or the other way around.

Most likely I'm overdoing it but whatever. I like this subject.

You be a homo.

Actually, it is more disturbing than anything. I hate gender ambiguous people. It confuses me and it is unfair to people everywhere.

[Yatta]

I'm not gay but I'd still bang Lotan in the ass due to my love for him. <3

[Kathy]

Mr.Flibble, on Nov 10 2009, 06:24 AM, said:

You be a homo.

Whatever.

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Actually, it is more disturbing than anything. I hate gender ambiguous people.

Did you know that kids and teens are more sexually ambiguous that grown-ups?

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It confuses me and it is unfair to people everywhere.

Let's have an example. Let's say you see some dude that looks similar to gal. You find him attractive and charming. So... what's the problem? Are you afraid to like him even more or what?

And I don't want to discuss this from a hetero standpoint. We can have a gay as an example who finds some gal attractive and is confused by that.

Yatta, on Nov 10 2009, 08:36 AM, said:

I'm not gay but I'd still bang Lotan in the ass due to my love for him. <3

Like I would let you...

[Master Fibbles]

Yatta , it isn't gay if you are pitching

Let me put it this way:
I would be offended if someone thought I looked like a female. I'm a man, I'm proud of that fact. I embrace my masculinity and no one can take away my balls.
Maybe it is a little homophobia (*I hate this fucking word..it doesn't mean what they say it means) that I don't want to get aroused by the long flowing hair and fair skin of some hippie dude who has no hair on his balls.

[Kathy]

Mr.Flibble, on Nov 10 2009, 04:43 PM, said:

Yatta , it isn't gay if you are pitching

How long you've been saying that to yourself?

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I would be offended if someone thought I looked like a female.

I was never offended by that. Although, the less younger I become, the more manly I look even with a hair. But cars are still stopping by sometimes to give me a lift.

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I don't want to get aroused by the long flowing hair and fair skin of some hippie dude who has no hair on his balls.

Hippie dude? Most likely he won't have his face shaved, let alone balls.

[Master Fibbles]

New topic since this is dead:

I reached for an English bible this afternoon and couldn't find one right away. I had to look under many other books scattered on my floor (including my Greek Septuagint) before finding my good old New American Bible...I don't read the bible in English anymore but when I want to, I can't find my English bible.

[Kathy]

I don't have bible.

[Yatta]

Speaking of bibles, two Christian dudes at UCLA were trying to convince me to convert and I told them as much as I'd love to stop being an agnostic and to become a theist, I couldn't help but be overwhelmed by the fact that there is more evil than good in the world.

[Master Fibbles]

Yatta, on Nov 14 2009, 03:06 PM, said:

Speaking of bibles, two Christian dudes at UCLA were trying to convince me to convert and I told them as much as I'd love to stop being an agnostic and to become a theist, I couldn't help but be overwhelmed by the fact that there is more evil than good in the world.

That is your reason? Or just the one to throw at silly people who probably don't know what they believe?

A really good book on that topic is Rabbi Harold Kushner's When Bad Things Happen to Good People. His son was born with some aging disease or something and he, being an orthodox Jewish rabbi, had to reconcile the situation with his faith. I feel like he did a fantastic job in addressing the issue of evil in the world.
Also, David, the king of Israel, was an asshole. He knocked up a guys wife while he was in battle and tried to cover it up by bringing the guy off the battle field and telling him to have sex with his wife. David even went so far as to get the guy drunk...but he just passed out in the palace somewhere instead of going home to do the nasty with his hot wife. In the end, David just had the guy sent on a suicide mission...and then married the widow.

[Jimmy]

I'm agnostic because I've never met a god. That's my only reasoning.

[Master Fibbles]

I never met a giant octopus.

[Jimmy]

You make a good point, yes, but you're just being facetious. I am completely open to the existence of a higher being, be it the christian God, Allah, or Ba'al. However, I have not been presented with any sort of evidence to believe in such an existence. In my opinion, it is impossible to prove a god doesn't exist, that is simply arrogant. I do however believe in the concept of good and evil, though I don't think its all black and white.

[Master Fibbles]

At least you admit that you can't prove some higher power/entity beyond the Universe doesn't exist. That is better than some people who make straw man arguments *cough*Richard Dawkins*cough*.

As an aside, I hate when people distinguish between the "Christian God" and "Allah". I got in this argument a few years ago with a bunch of Christians over whether or not Muslims worship the same God as we do. It was kind of the last straw on why I stopped going to that bible study group...they were so damn intolerant and ignorant.
To say that Muslims don't worship the same God as I do is just stupid. If they don't worship God, who do they worship? The Devil? No one? It is bull shit to say they don't worship the same God...
I'm not even including the bit about Judaism, Christianity, and Islam being Abrahamic Faiths (ie, they all worship the God of Abraham)...

[Jimmy]

I actually agree with you there, it's all pretty much the same religion, just some have more shit piled on top of it. I find that often times, your intolerant retards know less of the religion than most of your atheists and agnostics.

[Kathy]

Mr.Flibble, on Nov 15 2009, 05:52 AM, said:

At least you admit that you can't prove some higher power/entity beyond the Universe doesn't exist. That is better than some people who make straw man arguments *cough*Richard Dawkins*cough*.

Well, he said he's agnostic. Me too, btw. I don't care if there is/are god(s). I feel that people create(or interpret something) all those gods and religions so that they have a meaning a life, some hope for a (better) future, some basic morale. In god(s) they always have someone to lend a hand. They are weak all by themselves. I don't that I don't weak. But I can take it that I'm alone and there are no higher beings. And even if there are, them caring about me is a big stretch.

Plus I regard all those religions as pure shit since they were part of the governing body in many places. And some wars and other atrocities were raged in the name of those religions. I know, people raged wars, not religions, but when most of the people don't follow their religions the right way, then religion is non-existent. Except for 5% of the believers. So, people shouldn't hide behind their religion. Cause when there is a good reason to defy religion's rules, they would do it in an instant.

Sorry, if it was confusing.

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As an aside, I hate when people distinguish between the "Christian God" and "Allah".

I don't know shit about Islam, but didn't christian god is Trinity? I don't believe muslims regard Jesus Christ as a god, while Christians do.

[Master Fibbles]

Lotan, on Nov 15 2009, 06:58 AM, said:

I don't know shit about Islam, but didn't christian god is Trinity? I don't believe muslims regard Jesus Christ as a god, while Christians do.

-Light is a wave.
-No, fucktard, light is a bunch of packages called photons.
-Listen shit face, light is an electromagnetic wave.

There is your answer I suppose.
Or you could debate Einsteinian vs Newtonian physics...and that would also get you nowhere in the end.

Trinitarianism isn't even accepted through all Christians, but it doesn't change that they are all talking about the same deity. For centuries people had different ways of talking about Jesus even.
Some theologians/mystics have said that no matter what you say about God, you will always be a little wrong (or a lot wrong). Jews and Muslims have a different way of talking about the same God as Christians. Some would say that we have different levels of understanding about the nature of God...depending on how pluralistic you want to be.


The rest of your post was long and I don't read well after waking up. However, I imagine you would like Ernest Becker. I read him in my Confronting Death philosophy class and it was intriguing. I disagree with him at some pretty basic levels but he makes some good points.

[Kathy]

Mr.Flibble, on Nov 15 2009, 08:02 PM, said:

Trinitarianism isn't even accepted through all Christians, but it doesn't change that they are all talking about the same deity. For centuries people had different ways of talking about Jesus even.
Some theologians/mystics have said that no matter what you say about God, you will always be a little wrong (or a lot wrong). Jews and Muslims have a different way of talking about the same God as Christians. Some would say that we have different levels of understanding about the nature of God...depending on how pluralistic you want to be.

That is also a big problem with all those religions. Why the hell everything is so different even when people talk about the same stupid god? It seems like there are different opinions when there should be just one if they this god should have, you know, written some stuff and shit. Without prophets who still intepret stuff based on their brains and everything. It's like broken telephone. And people actually fight about stuff like that.

[Master Fibbles]

What you are saying is that an entity we can't prove or disprove the existence of should be completely understandable and there should be no debate over the nature of this entity. We can't even explain how gravity works with definity. We don't know what causes the Milky Way to rotate like it does because there is some massive object(s) in the outer area altering the gravitational forces.

There is a lot of stuff we have no idea how to begint to explain in the tangiable universe and you want religion to be clear cut right/wrong, orthodox/heterodox? Scientist can't even agree on how much we have ass fucked the global climate. The LHC maybe could possibly begin to reveal something about the beginning of the universe (if they ever get it running). Like I said, you could debate about the nature of light forever and never make any progress. People invest so much more into religion and the existence or non-existence of a god than in whether light is a group of packages or a wave.
Most people do actually agree that you can't say anything definitive about the nature of God...only the truly crazy people would disagree with me on that.

[Sangman]

Oh shit, religious debate! Man the escape pods!

[Martin Howe]

Now if only we could get Richard Dawkins, the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Pope and the Chief Rabbi to join this forum, we could really have fun