[Kathy]

Captain Awesome, on 18 February 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

You don't hear this stuff on the radio.

Is anyone interested in music still listening radio? Why?

[Hank]

http://www.edge.ca/ is one of best radio station in my home town, click on listen live, to hear why radio can still matter in 2013.

@ Captain Awesome, I sort of get it, but I need to digest this first.

[Jimmy]

Cathy, on 18 February 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Is anyone interested in music still listening radio? Why?

Hahahaha. I only listen to classic rock stations in the event I have to (driving someone else' car or something), I might catch Queen or something.

Hank, on 18 February 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

@ Captain Awesome, I sort of get it, but I need to digest this first.

It doesn't make sense at first, but I think Pearl Jam is the best example because they were always tearing down their famousness and pretty poignantly political in a sort of neo-Dead Kennedys way at times. The more political grunge bands never really got popular, which is why most people tend to remember Nirvana and the Stone Temple Pilots, they didn't really have a message.

[Inspector Lagomorf]

Plus there's some sort of pathetic irony about a political band like Rage Against The Machine being vehemently anti-corporate but still signing themselves onto a massive record label.

[Sangman]

Captain Awesome, on 18 February 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

Sang, you're right there is a lot of great new music out there. But if you lived in America, you'd understand. Our mass media culture is vapid. You don't hear this stuff on the radio.

You think Europe is different? You don't think I got those couple of songs by listening to the radio did you?

The only radio station I can think of that actually has some balls is Beat Rock, a Czech radio station. I was driving near Prague last year and ended up listening to it. It blew my mind that they played Black Sabbath songs and Queen songs and didn't just stick to the popular ones. They played Queen's The Prophet's Song, which I'd never heard before - and it's really quite brilliant and IMO better than Bohemian Rhapsody (but maybe I'm just tired of hearing it cause it and a couple other hit songs are the only Queen songs radio stations dare to play around here).

No, I hear about music from friends or people who are older than me and know more about that stuff than I do. A few years back, a friend introduced me to Kyuss. I was hooked pretty much instantly and then decided to check out splinter bands like Unida, Hermano, Queens of the Stone Age, Them Crooked Vultures or other bands of the same genre Dozer, Truckfighter, Yawning Man,.. Last year, some other friend introduced me to progressive and psychedelic rock, which made me check out more from Rush, Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree, Tame Impala, ... Through the movie Suicide Kings I started listening to Gus Gus.. etc...

Apart from a few 'safe' hit songs you will never hear anything of these bands on most radio stations. I'm not sure if that's a shame. It's not that I want to be a hipster kid listening to music that isn't mainstream, but I love 'discovering' music by other means and I'm also afraid I would get tired of hearing great songs because as you all know, once a radio station starts playing a song... it gets played until you want to cut your ears out.

[Hendricks266]

Hey, I just met you
And this is crazy
But I have Tourette's
So FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

[Forge]

Hank, on 18 February 2013 - 09:21 AM, said:

@ Forge - You lost me. what is glitz&glam?

sorry for the late response.

"Hair Metal" bands like Bullet Boys, Poison, Cinderella, etc.

everybody was sick and tired of rock ballads.

I'm not an expert on the subject, but i'm from the northwest and i seen the "grunge" scene emerging towards the late 80s before it received record label attention in the early 90s.

We weren't incredibly impressed the "quality and sophistication" of the music, but it was better than going to concerts to see guys on stage with more hairspray and lipstick on than half the girls in the audience.

[Hank]

Captain Awesome, on 18 February 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

It doesn't make sense at first, but I think Pearl Jam is the best example because they were always tearing down their famousness and pretty poignantly political in a sort of neo-Dead Kennedys way at times. The more political grunge bands never really got popular, which is why most people tend to remember Nirvana and the Stone Temple Pilots, they didn't really have a message.

When it comes to genres I have a hard time to begin with.
When I hear The Clash (yes old) or Transplants - I think Punk Rock. When I hear Soundgarden I think grunge.
Also, I don't pay much attention to the lyrics or for their political stands. I listen to your music, even if you are a Left Wing PITA loving arse.
The above probably give sufficient reasons why I am lost, it seems to be more a lyric and attitude trademark ??

@ Forge - Thanks, never heard the term nor the groups , actually, Poison rings a bell, somewhere far distant ....

[Jimmy]

Achenar, on 18 February 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

Plus there's some sort of pathetic irony about a political band like Rage Against The Machine being vehemently anti-corporate but still signing themselves onto a massive record label.

Indeed. That always bugged the hell out of me. It seemed to me that they were just dangerous enough to keep the kids occupied but never accomplish anything. Jello Biafra once said "The last true punk band to get a major label contract was The Dickies." Which holds quite a bit of truth, everyone gets watered down after a major contract. I love Sublime and Bad Religion for example, but there was definitely something missing when both of them got big contracts, and Epitaph/Hellcat Records is the biggest pile of shit ever. The only 'punk label' worth a damn anymore is Alternative Tentacles and maybe Fat Wreck Chords.

Sangman, on 18 February 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

You think Europe is different? You don't think I got those couple of songs by listening to the radio did you?

The only radio station I can think of that actually has some balls is Beat Rock, a Czech radio station. I was driving near Prague last year and ended up listening to it. It blew my mind that they played Black Sabbath songs and Queen songs and didn't just stick to the popular ones. They played Queen's The Prophet's Song, which I'd never heard before - and it's really quite brilliant and IMO better than Bohemian Rhapsody (but maybe I'm just tired of hearing it cause it and a couple other hit songs are the only Queen songs radio stations dare to play around here).

No, I hear about music from friends or people who are older than me and know more about that stuff than I do. A few years back, a friend introduced me to Kyuss. I was hooked pretty much instantly and then decided to check out splinter bands like Unida, Hermano, Queens of the Stone Age, Them Crooked Vultures or other bands of the same genre Dozer, Truckfighter, Yawning Man,.. Last year, some other friend introduced me to progressive and psychedelic rock, which made me check out more from Rush, Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree, Tame Impala, ... Through the movie Suicide Kings I started listening to Gus Gus.. etc...

Apart from a few 'safe' hit songs you will never hear anything of these bands on most radio stations. I'm not sure if that's a shame. It's not that I want to be a hipster kid listening to music that isn't mainstream, but I love 'discovering' music by other means and I'm also afraid I would get tired of hearing great songs because as you all know, once a radio station starts playing a song... it gets played until you want to cut your ears out.

I was suspecting it was the same over there, but since I've never been there I was gonna give a benefit of the doubt. I don't think there is any saving radio. We have a completely plebeian culture. They love shit. I had to drive my dad's girlfriend's granddaughter to school a while back, so I was listening to Sublime's first record and she was getting all pissy about it. I was just like "Who the hell doesn't like Sublime? There's something for everyone."

[Radar]

I want to find a radio station that has the guts to play the full 30 minutes of Atom Heart Mother, Echoes, and Shine On You Crazy Diamond.

[Hank]

^ try here http://tunein.com/ra...-Radio-s108447/
from Montreal, Canada, for 2013, if you had ask the question in 1985, most Rock Stations, again in Canada.
Radio in the US sucked with their extreme short play lists, since I came here ... one hour max, and you heard the same songs again.

[Radar]

Doesn't count; you couldn't get through ten minutes of Shine On Your Crazy Diamond without an ad interruption.

[Hank]

Add free? Could do, but you need to pay out front. Siriusxm has a designated Pink Floyd channel. Technically still Radio
http://www.siriusxm....sXM-Canada.aspx

[Kathy]

[deleted reply to CA]

Radar, on 18 February 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

I want to find a radio station that has the guts to play the full 30 minutes of Atom Heart Mother, Echoes, and Shine On You Crazy Diamond.

Can't you listen to the goddamn album?

[Jimmy]

Like this if I'm sexy.

[Radar]

Cathy, on 18 February 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

Can't you listen to the goddamn album?

Can and do. Just curious if there are radio stations that are willing to do that. I also wonder if there are any stations out there that play full albums.

I hate it when they play Another Brick in The Wall Pt. 2 and leave out the "If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding!" ending.

[Master Fibbles]

Captain Awesome, on 18 February 2013 - 07:17 PM, said:

Like this if I'm sexy.

Nope. No free rides here.

[Person of Color]

Captain Awesome, on 18 February 2013 - 03:28 PM, said:

I was suspecting it was the same over there, but since I've never been there I was gonna give a benefit of the doubt. I don't think there is any saving radio. We have a completely plebeian culture. They love shit. I had to drive my dad's girlfriend's granddaughter to school a while back, so I was listening to Sublime's first record and she was getting all pissy about it. I was just like "Who the hell doesn't like Sublime? There's something for everyone."

Jesus Christ dude...your dad has a girlfriend? She must be a real retard if her descendents don't like Sublime.

At least you know she's not a gold digger. Maybe a booger digger...but definitely not a gold digger.

[Kathy]

I haven't even heard about some Sublime. And no, I'm not going to google it. I have enough music to listen to without it.

[Jimmy]

Sublime is but an amalgamation of all the greatest genres; reggae, punk rock, ska, surf rock, dub, and hip hop. They are a great band, albeit somewhat over-rated because dumbass potheads think it makes them cool to listen to it, much in the same manner as Bob Marley. If you don't like Sublime, you just don't like music.

[Kathy]

Captain Awesome, on 19 February 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

If you don't like Sublime, you just don't like music.

That kind of opinion only brings a logical answer: "Fuck you".

[Forge]

Radar, on 18 February 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

Can and do. Just curious if there are radio stations that are willing to do that. I also wonder if there are any stations out there that play full albums.

in the us fcc regulations make broadcasting stations identify themselves at least once an hour (most do it twice an hour)

so playing a full album uninterrupted would be highly unlikely.

i don't listen to radio much anymore except when i drive somewhere so i wouldn't know if radio stations would be willing to do what you're suggesting.

there was a rock station in spokane, washington that would play full songs and one side of an album on their night show. usually things like inna-gadda-davida, shine on you crazy diamond, dogs, sheep, wish you were here, 2112, etc., or an entire side of a doors, led zeppelin, pink floyd, etc. album

but that was back in the mid 80s.

with all the media formats and outlets these days it's more important now then ever for radio stations to cater to the listener and rake in as much audience as possible, so i really don't see that kind of stuff happening any more

[X-Vector]

I've heard a couple of Sublime songs and "Santeria" was a staple at the pub back when, I don't see what's so special about the band though.
They're playing a pleasant, non-offensive mix of styles, but nothing that really makes me sit up and listen.

[Sangman]

Yeah Sublime's pretty dull IMO.

[Alan]

Forge, on 18 February 2013 - 03:25 PM, said:

"Hair Metal" bands like Bullet Boys, Poison, Cinderella, etc.

everybody was sick and tired of rock ballads.

I'm not an expert on the subject, but i'm from the northwest and i seen the "grunge" scene emerging towards the late 80s before it received record label attention in the early 90s.

We weren't incredibly impressed the "quality and sophistication" of the music, but it was better than going to concerts to see guys on stage with more hairspray and lipstick on than half the girls in the audience.

Grunge has a complete lack of sophistication. Grunge wasn't the bane of 80s metal, it was pop artists taking the work that metal did and bastardizing it to get chicks. Everyone associates 80s metal with big goofy hair, make up and glitter, and I can't entirely blame them; but damn it's frustrating when people think that's what I listen to when I say I listen to 80s metal. A few times I've been derided for it because people think I listen to that sappy shit, and they were really damn surprised when I showed them actual 80s metal.

If the pop fuckfaces didn't try to steal it, metal would probably have endured and crushed grunge as a blip on the radar.

And now for something less rage-fueled.



It's a... catwalk!

[Jimmy]

X-Vector, on 20 February 2013 - 08:28 AM, said:

I've heard a couple of Sublime songs and "Santeria" was a staple at the pub back when, I don't see what's so special about the band though.
They're playing a pleasant, non-offensive mix of styles, but nothing that really makes me sit up and listen.

That's a valid argument because you've probably heard the singles, which means it came off their last record which was just barely finished before Bradley's death and had a markedly different sound because of their big record label contract. 40 Oz. to Freedom and Robbin' The Hood are superior records.

[Sangman]

Alan, on 20 February 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

Grunge wasn't the bane of 80s metal, it was pop artists taking the work that metal did and bastardizing it to get chicks.

Every genre has 'artists' like this. I honestly doubt that all those years Layne Staley was just trying to get laid.

[Kathy]

Alan, on 20 February 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

Grunge has a complete lack of sophistication. Grunge wasn't the bane of 80s metal, it was pop artists taking the work that metal did and bastardizing it to get chicks. Everyone associates 80s metal with big goofy hair, make up and glitter, and I can't entirely blame them; but damn it's frustrating when people think that's what I listen to when I say I listen to 80s metal. A few times I've been derided for it because people think I listen to that sappy shit, and they were really damn surprised when I showed them actual 80s metal.

If anyone says "80s metal" I think about thrash, black, death and doom.

[Radar]

I think of Van Halen and Randy Rhoads whenever I hear the term "80s metal".

[Jimmy]

80's metal master race.