[Kathy]

I imagined 100% Ego would have been something like "Egoist" or something. Maniac is of course speaks about the post count.

[Hank]

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[Master Fibbles]

Hank, on 17 February 2013 - 01:47 AM, said:

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[Hank]

Mr.Flibble, on 17 February 2013 - 10:26 AM, said:

restored

Nooooooooooooo! If I delete something it shall be deleted!

I just wished, the moderators could delete my officially deleted erroneous or asinine posts. Man, life is good if you have problems like that.

Testing image limits

[Person of Color]

Captain Awesome, on 16 February 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

I've contracted a terrible form of Pharyngitis.

I knew getting it on with Courtney Love was a terrible idea.

At least your skull is intact.

[Radar]

Hank, on 17 February 2013 - 01:47 AM, said:

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Why do you post just to delete it ten minutes later? I believe you do that often; or maybe I'm thinking of another member.

[Jimmy]

The Big Cheese, on 16 February 2013 - 10:37 PM, said:

I was about to say "strange, I was with her last week and I'm feeling fine" but then decided to actually look her up first. Apparently she's about 50 so I retract my statement.

It's not the fact that she's about 50 that makes her disgusting. I'd get it on with Cassandra Peterson in a heartbeat and she's 61.

486DX2, on 17 February 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

At least your skull is intact.

[Person of Color]

Jesus Christ, he looks doped out in that photo.

Those pupils are fucking pinned.

[Sangman]

486DX2, on 16 February 2013 - 10:31 AM, said:

But they don't shit on people.

I'm sure there are French people out there but everyone of them I met personally (and I'm not even overstating, I mean literally every single one) has been a giant cunt. For example when I lived in Germany for some months last year, there were friendly people there from all kinds of nationalities. There were also two French guys who would only talk to one another and would make racist remarks and even threats (police was involved at one point even) to some of our Indian roommates.

Of course we were there with four Dutch-speaking Belgians who for historical (= stupid) reasons were quite opposed to French nonsense, at least in this case it meant no Indian or Egyptian was harmed by French cunts. The first time I actually spoke to one of them was when I was taking a shower (in a communal shower room) and he was threatening an Indian dude... I asked his name and told him to step off... for all I know he could've punched me in the face but he calmed down thankfully.

True story. (seriously) 2012 was a cool year.

[Person of Color]

I'm American so I have a romanticized view of France.

[Sangman]

It all depends on historical context I guess. The French helped the American revolutionaries but before Belgium became Belgium there were lots of issues with the French (and the Dutch as well obviously). Maybe that explains why some people feel the way they do about other countries. It's dumb I guess but I'd happily go "oh I love France and French people!" if I ever meet a friendly one.

[Jimmy]

486DX2, on 17 February 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

Jesus Christ, he looks doped out in that photo.

Those pupils are fucking pinned.

He was. That's from the Unplugged performance. Plenty of hilarious faces from that.

[Hank]

Radar, on 17 February 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

Why do you post just to delete it ten minutes later? I believe you do that often; or maybe I'm thinking of another member.

I check my posts with preview, and they pass right then and there. When I read the same post ten minutes (or so) later, I find errors and sometimes they are so stupid I simply delete them.

[Forge]

Sangman, on 17 February 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

I'm sure there are French people out there but everyone of them I met personally (and I'm not even overstating, I mean literally every single one) has been a giant cunt.

2012 was a cool year.

HA! That reminds me of when i was stationed in Germany. We were at a multinational firing range for some week long competition. Our little group of guys was sitting in the beer tent throwing a few back with the German group. A little later some Brits walked in, words were exchanged between them and the Germans, and next thing you know their having a good brawl. Not even a minute later the French group walked in and it was like one of those double take scenes in a movie where everything comes to a dead stop. Without so much as a word the Brits and Germans both jumped on the French guys and whooped them from one end of the tent to the other. After the French evacuated the scene the Brits went their way, the Germans came back and sat at our table like nothing happened. One of the funniest damn things i'd ever seen. Learned alot about European culture that day.

1995 was a good year

[Micky C]

Forge, on 17 February 2013 - 07:53 PM, said:

HA! That reminds me of when i was stationed in Germany. We were at a multinational firing range for some week long competition. Our little group of guys was sitting in the beer tent throwing a few back with the German group. A little later some Brits walked in, words were exchanged between them and the Germans, and next thing you know their having a good brawl. Not even a minute later the French group walked in and it was like one of those double take scenes in a movie where everything comes to a dead stop. Without so much as a word the Brits and Germans both jumped on the French guys and whooped them from one end of the tent to the other. After the French evacuated the scene the Brits went their way, the Germans came back and sat at our table like nothing happened. One of the funniest damn things i'd ever seen. Learned alot about European culture that day.

1995 was a good year

So what was the motive behind all that? Both the brits and the french were allied against the germans in the two world wars, but then again there was the 100 year war between england and france.

[Radar]

Hank, on 17 February 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

I check my posts with preview, and they pass right then and there. When I read the same post ten minutes (or so) later, I find errors and sometimes they are so stupid I simply delete them.

You're a smart poster Hank. You should have more faith in what you write. I'm sure it's never all as bad as you think it is.

Captain Awesome, on 17 February 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

He was. That's from the Unplugged performance. Plenty of hilarious faces from that.

He lived a good life and a terrible life all at the same time.

[Jimmy]

Kurt was the only member of Nirvana worth a damn. Dave Grohl, Kris Novoselic, and Pat Smear were all fucking posh douchebag posterboys. I saw a video of them three talking shit about GG Allin shortly after he died, and I'm like dude, Darby Crash heroin'ed himself retarded and would throw microphones in peanut butter and cover himself in powdered sugar and you're gonna talk shit about GG? You could barely even play guitar for fifteen years.

[Inspector Lagomorf]

I was asked by someone who was very much a fan of 60s rock, "What's the big deal with Nirvana? Why were they so popular? They weren't musically great or anything."

No, they weren't, but I guess there was something identifiable about the band and its message?

[Kathy]

What message?

[Inspector Lagomorf]

In... the lyrics...?

You know... the words that accompany a song...?

Derived from the Greek word "lyrikos", meaning "singing to the lyre"...

[Forge]

Achenar, on 18 February 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

I was asked by someone who was very much a fan of 60s rock, "What's the big deal with Nirvana? Why were they so popular? They weren't musically great or anything."

No, they weren't, but I guess there was something identifiable about the band and its message?

it was the movement away from LA cookie-cutter glam rock that made them popular. They set a new trend. It was more about the image than the music.

The Big Cheese, on 17 February 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

So what was the motive behind all that? Both the brits and the french were allied against the germans in the two world wars, but then again there was the 100 year war between england and france.

i guess it's a statement that no matter how much Europeans can't stand each other, they share a common dislike for French people that trumps any other discontent.

[Hank]

Forge, on 18 February 2013 - 08:21 AM, said:

it was the movement away from LA cookie-cutter glam rock that made them popular. They set a new trend. It was more about the image than the music.

I think, when Smells Like Teen Spirit succeeded, the Label milked that success to the max. It was not Nirvana setting the trend.

As a side note, I only noticed their music when C. Love mentioned their name, ten years later. Back then and now, I have a hard time to hear anything special musically wise.

[Radar]

Achenar, on 18 February 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

I was asked by someone who was very much a fan of 60s rock, "What's the big deal with Nirvana? Why were they so popular? They weren't musically great or anything."

You asked the wrong person. Nirvana wasn't a 60's band.

Captain Awesome, on 17 February 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

Kurt was the only member of Nirvana worth a damn. Dave Grohl, Kris Novoselic, and Pat Smear were all fucking posh douchebag posterboys. I saw a video of them three talking shit about GG Allin shortly after he died, and I'm like dude, Darby Crash heroin'ed himself retarded and would throw microphones in peanut butter and cover himself in powdered sugar and you're gonna talk shit about GG? You could barely even play guitar for fifteen years.

Dude, everyone's a douchebag posterboy next to GG Allin.

Darby Crash? Hm, Darby Crash... Oh yeah, that one guy no one cared about when John Lennon was assassinated the day after his suicide.

[Forge]

of course it's the record labels that "set trends". they seen a cash cow and banked on it.

Nirvana was the first "popular" band of that genre, so they get all the credit for being the trend setters. glitz&glam went the way of disco and bands like perl jam, soundgarden, etc., etc, started getting popular. put 'em all in plaid shirts and jeans & give them a record deal with a marketing label "grunge". Grrunge being the polar opposite of glitz&glam. Make a few bucks until people get tired of it and move on to the next big fad.

[Hank]

@ Forge - You lost me. what is glitz&glam? I was into Public Enemy, Skinny Puppy and a lot of Club Scene (glitz&glam?) in the ealry 90s. I simply missed Nirvana all together, as I said, when they became popular.

[Kathy]

Achenar, on 18 February 2013 - 06:23 AM, said:

In... the lyrics...?

Why do you think they were trying to provide their music with some specific "message"?

[Inspector Lagomorf]

Cathy, on 18 February 2013 - 09:22 AM, said:

Why do you think they were trying to provide their music with some specific "message"?

It wasn't the sole purpose of their music, but I doubt that Kurt Cobain pulled random words out of a jar and simply used those for lyrics without any sort of intent.

[Radar]

The fact that people saw huge messages in their music is what I believe drove Kurt Cobain wild. He had become a legend only because record labels put him forward; it could have happened to anyone else. He knew he wasn't legend material, and it drove him "to rip people off by faking it and pretending as if I'm having 100% fun".

[Sangman]

The Big Cheese, on 17 February 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

So what was the motive behind all that? Both the brits and the french were allied against the germans in the two world wars, but then again there was the 100 year war between england and france.

Forge, on 18 February 2013 - 08:21 AM, said:

i guess it's a statement that no matter how much Europeans can't stand each other, they share a common dislike for French people that trumps any other discontent.

Pretty much. Nobody likes France!

As for Nirvana - I don't think their music is bad but indeed I believe they were popular more for their image than for any kind of "message" or whatever. Comparable bands of the time like Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Stone Temple Pilots all made much better music. To be honest, I suspect Nirvana's mythical popularity would be nowhere near what it is today if Kurt hadn't shot himself. It's kind of the "being dead" effect.

[Alan]

I am of the opinion that Nirvana was a major player in the dumbing down of 90s music.

/me exists before flamewar