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If the graphics look good and well stylized for the game/series, I'm happy. Seriously, this game has more flare and defined style than any CoD, Gears of War, and whatever other FPSes you can name.
My DNF experience at the mana bar
#32 Posted 21 October 2010 - 01:07 PM
BraveTriforcer, on Oct 21 2010, 01:26 PM, said:
If the graphics look good and well stylized for the game/series, I'm happy. Seriously, this game has more flare and defined style than any CoD, Gears of War, and whatever other FPSes you can name.
What you expect from the game is nice and desirable but you have to keep in mind that each person has his own level of experience and his own standards.
As a hardcore fps gamer that has played fps games since wolfenstein 3d, I have to say that DNF didn't impress me at all in all the media that I've seen in the last year.
That being said, I don't hate it nor do I think it sucks. Based on what I've seen until now, I just find it to be an average game...
I haven't seen the game at mana bar but If I were to give a recommendation based on what I've seen of DNF until now, I would definitely recommend that nobody should have more than medium expectations from this game.
This post has been edited by Mr.Deviance: 21 October 2010 - 01:25 PM
#33 Posted 21 October 2010 - 03:08 PM
Well I meant that as a Graphics in general comment. Graphically, this game is only beaten by Brutal Legend in my book in terms of style (And games I've played). I, of course, expect the game to hold up with the gameplay and such. Story, as Randy has said is "Duke saves the world", and that's all that Duke really needs. I expect this to end up better than most FPSes nowadays, and it may even take the things that people loath about them, and will ironically use them right and/or better.
This post has been edited by BraveTriforcer: 21 October 2010 - 03:12 PM
#34 Posted 22 October 2010 - 12:39 AM
BraveTriforcer, on Oct 21 2010, 04:08 PM, said:
Graphically, this game is only beaten by Brutal Legend in my book in terms of style (And games I've played).
Lol what? You're joking, right?
Brutal Legend has graphics? LOL... Imo Brutal Legend has the worst graphics that I've ever seen in a long time.
#36 Posted 22 October 2010 - 03:39 AM
blackharted, on Oct 21 2010, 09:11 AM, said:
No no and no.
You are free to have your own opinion...
I'm looking at this as a 2011 game, because that's what it is. As such, I'm comparing it to other FPS games recently released and the games expected to also ship in 2011, and while I agree DNF has some nice visual effects going for it, I just can't help but think the actual content itself looks dated.
blackharted, on Oct 21 2010, 09:11 AM, said:
You are contradicting yourself. You first say it very interactive and that seem to change your mind.
Sorry, I don't see how I contradict myself... I'm saying there's quantity but not quality, two completely different points. It is very interactive in terms of quantity, like Duke3D was at the time. But the interactivity is very limited, it's like a big collection of little interactive demos, each doing its one little trick, but nothing else. You can't for example take a whiteboard marker away from the whiteboard and draw on a wall. I guess from all the earlier hype and interviews with GB, I got the impression that DNF would allow you to do that kind of thing, so I was a little surprised to see it was quite limited in that regard.
Raz.
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#37 Posted 22 October 2010 - 06:59 AM
Raziel, on Oct 16 2010, 10:57 PM, said:
Also, you can't take the white-board markers away from the white board and draw on the wall for example... so in many ways it's interactivity is quite localized. Having said that, I have not seen this level of interactivity since Duke 3D 
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.awww, i read this wrong the first time.
i read it as you "could" draw on walls, dang.
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#38 Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:00 AM
Still that's more interaction than any other game out there.
Also there's the rat you can put in the microwave. I would think that the rat isn't inside the microwave already, that you have to pick it up somewere else and put it inside the microwave. That would be different than what you're describing.
I think this game is going to work for me as I don't expect something like scribblenauts. So these "Localized" demos are perfectly fine to me.
Also there's the rat you can put in the microwave. I would think that the rat isn't inside the microwave already, that you have to pick it up somewere else and put it inside the microwave. That would be different than what you're describing.
I think this game is going to work for me as I don't expect something like scribblenauts. So these "Localized" demos are perfectly fine to me.
This post has been edited by DavoX: 22 October 2010 - 07:06 AM
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#40 Posted 24 October 2010 - 01:09 PM
DavoX, on Oct 23 2010, 02:00 AM, said:
Also there's the rat you can put in the microwave. I would think that the rat isn't inside the microwave already, that you have to pick it up somewere else and put it inside the microwave. That would be different than what you're describing.
I think this game is going to work for me as I don't expect something like scribblenauts. So these "Localized" demos are perfectly fine to me.
I think this game is going to work for me as I don't expect something like scribblenauts. So these "Localized" demos are perfectly fine to me.
Randy mentions a pinball machine in one of the gamepron clips (saw that coming
) im still as pumped as ever for this game, im certainly not doubting it's interactivity, i bet there will be a pool table, and bowling.
I am constantly wondering how far they have gone with that sort of stuff within the game.
#41 Posted 24 October 2010 - 02:20 PM
2-3 guys worked for one year to get the full fletched out Pinball machine up und running!
#42 Posted 24 October 2010 - 02:34 PM
I don't think that was meant as some kind of factual assertion, it didn't seem like something that GB had told Randy or anything. More like an impression Randy got from the Pinball Machine(WOW, they must have 2-3 guys work on this for a year or something). I don't know. That is just how it came off for me.
#43 Posted 26 October 2010 - 05:00 AM
It's pretty cool that they put the Q&A session videos up on the main page. I unfortunately missed it since I was getting lunch (at like 5pm :/) - when I got back it was so packed at the mana bar that you couldn't get in until well after the Q&A session .
Interestingly enough, I ran into a rather lengthy post I made almost a year ago which I forgot about, but it's a really interesting read now that we have seen what DNF looks like today. At the time when I posted this I had no idea what state the DNF game was in, but it turns out I was fairly spot on with my analysis. The thread's main topic was whether DNF's engine would still be viable for 2011: http://forums.duke4.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=34189
Very little of the post was directly related to DNF, but these are the main points I made in that post about DNF and it's content/engine:
1) The engine itself would still be usable for at least another 3 years (though it was posted almost a year ago now)
2) You can add a lot of shader-based effects to keep the engine modern (which is exactly what they've done)
3) The level content is the stuff that would get dated quickly, and it would be pretty hard to fix
I found it an interesting read having played DNF now... but damn... I really did ramble a little in that post, so apologies for anyone that does read it.
Raz.
.Interestingly enough, I ran into a rather lengthy post I made almost a year ago which I forgot about, but it's a really interesting read now that we have seen what DNF looks like today. At the time when I posted this I had no idea what state the DNF game was in, but it turns out I was fairly spot on with my analysis. The thread's main topic was whether DNF's engine would still be viable for 2011: http://forums.duke4.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=34189
Very little of the post was directly related to DNF, but these are the main points I made in that post about DNF and it's content/engine:
1) The engine itself would still be usable for at least another 3 years (though it was posted almost a year ago now)
2) You can add a lot of shader-based effects to keep the engine modern (which is exactly what they've done)
3) The level content is the stuff that would get dated quickly, and it would be pretty hard to fix
I found it an interesting read having played DNF now... but damn... I really did ramble a little in that post, so apologies for anyone that does read it.
Raz.
#44 Posted 26 October 2010 - 06:19 AM
Thanks for the review, it's always nice to hear these things from actual players!
From what I've seen (which admittedly isn't much) DNF looks just fine to me. It won't please graphic whores, but it exceeds the expectations of many (mine included) who waited for this game.
The interactivity limitations are a bit of a drag, mainly because people kept using words like "unparalleled" and such in conjunction with it. They were hyping it up to be something akin to real life or that old "Actor" physics demo, but the way you make it sound it's just a lot more DN3D style interactivity, which isn't bad, but it feels like we were promised more. To be fair though, nobody really expected to do things like take the marker and draw on things, etc... it was just wishful thinking. But I'd rather have a shitload of Duke-like limited interactivity than something like five fully-interactive gimmicks per three maps like some games do. And maybe I blew your description out of proportion, I won't completely judge it until I play the game.
The trigger thing kinda sucks, but what do you expect from a game that SHOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED 11 YEARS AGO? There were hardly any freeform sandbox-style games except for maybe like the first top-down GTAs and Daggerfall. Maybe if the design doc evolved with the engine changes, but 3DR was too focused on graphics (the irony, she stings :3), a sickness many developers suffer from so I can't fault them too much.
Part of me suspects that they're demoing with joypads as opposed to mice/keyboards because joypads can take more abuse and won't get as dirty. (Also you can't CTRL-ALT-DEL and kill the game, then open up Explorer and copy the demo to a flash drive with a joypad.)
Glad to hear about heavy Duke presence, that's what matters most! Good AI is a plus too. :3
Overall I'll still wait for the final consensus but I think I might end up getting the 360 or PS3 version of this game exclusively, all these impressions leave me with the opinion that it will be a great game, but not one worth buying/building a high-end PC for.
From what I've seen (which admittedly isn't much) DNF looks just fine to me. It won't please graphic whores, but it exceeds the expectations of many (mine included) who waited for this game.
The interactivity limitations are a bit of a drag, mainly because people kept using words like "unparalleled" and such in conjunction with it. They were hyping it up to be something akin to real life or that old "Actor" physics demo, but the way you make it sound it's just a lot more DN3D style interactivity, which isn't bad, but it feels like we were promised more. To be fair though, nobody really expected to do things like take the marker and draw on things, etc... it was just wishful thinking. But I'd rather have a shitload of Duke-like limited interactivity than something like five fully-interactive gimmicks per three maps like some games do. And maybe I blew your description out of proportion, I won't completely judge it until I play the game.
The trigger thing kinda sucks, but what do you expect from a game that SHOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED 11 YEARS AGO? There were hardly any freeform sandbox-style games except for maybe like the first top-down GTAs and Daggerfall. Maybe if the design doc evolved with the engine changes, but 3DR was too focused on graphics (the irony, she stings :3), a sickness many developers suffer from so I can't fault them too much.
Part of me suspects that they're demoing with joypads as opposed to mice/keyboards because joypads can take more abuse and won't get as dirty. (Also you can't CTRL-ALT-DEL and kill the game, then open up Explorer and copy the demo to a flash drive with a joypad.)
Glad to hear about heavy Duke presence, that's what matters most! Good AI is a plus too. :3
Overall I'll still wait for the final consensus but I think I might end up getting the 360 or PS3 version of this game exclusively, all these impressions leave me with the opinion that it will be a great game, but not one worth buying/building a high-end PC for.
This post has been edited by Pikachu: 26 October 2010 - 06:28 AM
#45 Posted 26 October 2010 - 12:29 PM
It'd be better than upgrading for a new CoD game, I can bet that. Overall, I'll wait for the demo/the actual game to make a final decision. As for Console v Pc, they have upsides and downsides. The pluses to a PC are you can make/find mods or skins that'll make some good fun out of the game, especially multiplayer, and that aiming is smoother and easier. For consoles, you have a controller that was built with gaming in mind, and are guaranteed a perfect framerate, but at the cost of joystick aiming. Not that it ruins FPSes or makes them unplayable, it just makes the gameplay feel robotic to me.
There are more points I could go into, but this isn't the topic for it.
There are more points I could go into, but this isn't the topic for it.
#46 Posted 26 October 2010 - 12:45 PM
BraveTriforcer, on Oct 26 2010, 12:29 PM, said:
It'd be better than upgrading for a new CoD game, I can bet that. Overall, I'll wait for the demo/the actual game to make a final decision. As for Console v Pc, they have upsides and downsides. The pluses to a PC are you can make/find mods or skins that'll make some good fun out of the game, especially multiplayer, and that aiming is smoother and easier. For consoles, you have a controller that was built with gaming in mind, and are guaranteed a perfect framerate, but at the cost of joystick aiming. Not that it ruins FPSes or makes them unplayable, it just makes the gameplay feel robotic to me.
There are more points I could go into, but this isn't the topic for it.
There are more points I could go into, but this isn't the topic for it.
Valid points on the aiming, but I doubt we'll see the modding tools released for Duke (at least not at launch) so that doesn't factor in as much for me.
This post has been edited by Pikachu: 26 October 2010 - 12:46 PM
#47 Posted 26 October 2010 - 03:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KT3qCGw9Fc...feature=related
Just gonna leave this here for comparisons for whoever played it.
Just gonna leave this here for comparisons for whoever played it.
#48 Posted 27 October 2010 - 04:39 AM
BraveTriforcer, on Oct 26 2010, 01:29 PM, said:
It'd be better than upgrading for a new CoD game, I can bet that. Overall, I'll wait for the demo/the actual game to make a final decision. As for Console v Pc, they have upsides and downsides. The pluses to a PC are you can make/find mods or skins that'll make some good fun out of the game, especially multiplayer, and that aiming is smoother and easier. For consoles, you have a controller that was built with gaming in mind, and are guaranteed a perfect framerate, but at the cost of joystick aiming. Not that it ruins FPSes or makes them unplayable, it just makes the gameplay feel robotic to me.
There are more points I could go into, but this isn't the topic for it.
There are more points I could go into, but this isn't the topic for it.
Don't forget about the nude patches for the already naked chicks! :3 Hey, they did it with D3D, why not DNF
...Oh, and people were asking about this in one of the forums... the Duke on the main menu IS animated, it appears to be a pre-rendered animation of the high-poly duke nukem model. The edges of the model just looked too smooth to be the in-game model and I don't think it is realtime rendered but that can be deceiving nowadays...
This post has been edited by Raziel: 27 October 2010 - 04:59 AM
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#49 Posted 27 October 2010 - 05:51 AM
Also in the menu we can see the "new?" face of the liz trooper. Looks meaner than the version shown in the Teaser.
#50 Posted 21 February 2011 - 04:24 AM
Sorry for resurrecting an old topic, but I never posted this pic from outside of the manabar when I got there:
http://img200.images...dukebouncer.jpg
You might be wondering, 'is that spraypaint?!' - yes, yes, I believe it is
EDIT: Having re-read my initial post, it is quite interesting since everything the GBX and 2k guys told me actually ended up being accurate.
http://img200.images...dukebouncer.jpg
You might be wondering, 'is that spraypaint?!' - yes, yes, I believe it is
EDIT: Having re-read my initial post, it is quite interesting since everything the GBX and 2k guys told me actually ended up being accurate.
This post has been edited by Raziel: 21 February 2011 - 04:25 AM
#51 Posted 21 February 2011 - 09:01 PM
"403 Forbidden
Request forbidden by administrative rules."
It's ok now, imageshack wasn't working the last few days, seems like they changed things...
Request forbidden by administrative rules."
It's ok now, imageshack wasn't working the last few days, seems like they changed things...
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#52 Posted 21 February 2011 - 11:13 PM
Fox Mulder, on Feb 21 2011, 09:01 PM, said:
"403 Forbidden
Request forbidden by administrative rules."
Request forbidden by administrative rules."
That's odd. I just tried it from my iPhone. Seems to work for me on a different network to the one I used to upload it.
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#53 Posted 22 February 2011 - 02:13 AM
I can see it, nice belt buckle, but you need to tilt your head higher up to fully imitate the duke poster
#55 Posted 24 February 2011 - 01:17 AM
Micky C, on Feb 22 2011, 02:13 AM, said:
I can see it, nice belt buckle, but you need to tilt your head higher up to fully imitate the duke poster
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I should probably point out that it's a photo of the bouncer... not me.
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#56 Posted 24 February 2011 - 02:09 AM
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
lol, I just find such general purpose pieces of spam ammusing
uninstall68, on Feb 24 2011, 11:53 AM, said:
Very nice.Good post.
lol, I just find such general purpose pieces of spam ammusing
#57 Posted 25 February 2011 - 03:34 AM
BraveTriforcer, on Oct 26 2010, 03:09 PM, said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KT3qCGw9Fc...feature=related
Just gonna leave this here for comparisons for whoever played it.
Just gonna leave this here for comparisons for whoever played it.
I don't think I've ever fully seen that video. Looks pretty nice.
