[MetHy]

That is really fucking cool . Pretty amazing you find a new DN3D effect in 2014!

The only problem I see with this (and it's a pretty big one), is that players aren't used to this, therefore they'll never think of it unless you tell them or hint at it somehow.

[oasiz]

I don't want to solely take credit for this as this is something that has been sorta discovered during speed running the game (you can skip various keys this way).
But I did investigate that curiosity since it made absolutely no sense and nobody really understood why certain doors worked this way.
But now it makes perfect sense and instead of showing it as a bug, make it a feature

Personally I would make such a thing very obvious and more about being a one time gag at some point with a stuck door or similar.

[MYHOUSE.MAP]

That's actually mentioned as a valid way to open doors in an early magazine preview. This might be a remnant from the development phase that article was written. Nice find!

[oasiz]

Ah, it was that article

I remember reading about this somewhere quite recently but couldn't remember where.
For those who are curious, just take a look in levels like E2L2, E3L6 and E1L3. All of those have some doors that have been wall-tagged to the activator.
Maybe this could be one indicator of the level's age ?

Also I remember that the doors in LD always react on projectiles, I believe this is more closer to the original vision where every door reacted this way without the need for wall tags.
Considering that older duke versions have a much slower mighty foot that stops duke when it's being used, maybe it was intended to be a multi purpose tool and they kind of re-purposed it during final months ?

[zykov eddy]

MetHy, on 12 November 2014 - 08:52 AM, said:

That is really fucking cool . Pretty amazing you find a new DN3D effect in 2014!

Weird, I knew about it a thought that it's a well - known bug I think speedrunners use this trick a lot when playing E1L3, at least in the videos I saw on youtube. Also, I think someone already suggested that it's an unused feature.

[MetHy]

There is a difference between 'knowing about something that happens with a few doors in the original game', and now having defined it and being able to use it as an effect in maps.

[Kathy]

MetHy, on 12 November 2014 - 08:52 AM, said:

The only problem I see with this (and it's a pretty big one), is that players aren't used to this, therefore they'll never think of it unless you tell them or hint at it somehow.

I always thought it was a known feature since I was succesfully kicking doors in E1L1. Weird...

[Micky C]

MetHy, on 12 November 2014 - 08:52 AM, said:

That is really fucking cool . Pretty amazing you find a new DN3D effect in 2014!

The only problem I see with this (and it's a pretty big one), is that players aren't used to this, therefore they'll never think of it unless you tell them or hint at it somehow.

You guys are all noobs. This stuff is all in the infosuite: http://infosuite.duk...pecial_textures (look up doortile).

I'd been meaning to play around with it when I get a decent chunk of spare time. For example, according to the infosuite it works with sprites as well. Imagine if you could combine it with an SE 13 and kick a hole in a wall

[oasiz]

Well, damn

Good to know that it has some proper documentation outside of this at least !
Like I said, it's not completely a new thing, more like an oddity that nobody seems to utilize in their maps really.

Most sensible scenario I can think of is to have a kick operated montage after a hurtrail spawn, just a minute or two worth of game play where the player just has to kick his way trough.
Kick operated wallcrack, pushwalls, "locked" SE13 doors and such would look pretty nice with this I'd figure.

Placing a dummy L sprite is rather important to make things single use though


Anyway.. time to think of more stuff!

[Fox]

The font used in Duke Nukem: Total Meltdown title is Shimano Square Black.

[Fox]

She wears make-up LOL

[Daedolon]

First time I've ever seen the "original" Pig Cop in so much detail.

[Marphy Black]

While rummaging through some old boxes, I stumbled across some old Duke-related paraphernalia. First is a WizardWorks product catalog from late 1996 with some Duke products in it:


Scans of the pages with Duke stuff in them, the most interesting being an advertisement on the back of the catalog for the upcoming Duke Xtreme pack which features an early (or, more likely, just a slapped together placeholder) logo:


And the next bit is a particular oddity, a mini-strategy guide for Time to Kill, only 16 pages and about the size of a DVD case.


I don't exactly remember where I got this, but it seems to have come packed with an EGM magazine circa 98/99. The actual walkthrough is completely unique from the official GameWizards strategy guide. A few extra pictures:

[Hendricks266]

Same font, just stretched horizontally.

[Daedolon]

Still not sure about the M, it might be a variation of the font, tbh.

[Fox]

There are some key differences with the Helvetica font.

Edit: Don't forget the logo from the Plutonium Pack CD:



Silhouettes:







Edit: I think the Plutonium logo is Berthold Block Condensed.

[Lunick]

Nothing special but, I was looking through the ordering book that came with Duke The Apocalypse:


And apparently there was supposed to be 4 new enemies (only two in the final game) and 2 new weapons (4 in the final game):


And just for fun but irrelevant, Skunny has a terrifying boxart:

[High Treason]

Skunny was shrunk in a washing machine by an evil computer programer

[Lunick]

High Treason, on 14 February 2015 - 07:18 PM, said:

Skunny was shrunk in a washing machine by an evil computer programer

I found a copy on eBay and this one too looks like it has had a rough time http://www.ebay.com....tm/121558219021

[TheZombieKiller]

Manhattan Project has a first person mode

[Marphy Black]

Just happened to stumble across a decent quality scan of that high resolution Cycloid Emperor that's been seen floating around from time to time:



Source: 64 Solutions 03

[MrFlibble]

Here's a little trivia that is hopefully appropriate here. A while ago I got interested in Pie in the Sky's 3D Game Creation System. There are quite a few titles of varying quality created with it, but probably the most well known one that Pie in the Sky developed themselves is Lethal Tender. However, the company also released several demo games to promote 3DGCS and showcase its features.

What seems to be the earliest of these demos is a one level game called Meltdown. It was found on a certain gamazine cover disk thanks to Hallfiry's cover CD catalogue. Meltdown is a one-level demo which shows some basic gameplay (find weapon, shoot stuff, find keys, find exit etc.).

Now for the interesting part. The level design and texture artwork in the demo are credited to one Terry F. Hamel. MobyGames has a developer called Terry Hamel in their database, and this person was involved in the production of Blood. I decided to check if it was the same guy or not, and luckily Google Groups preserved a copy of Terry Hamel's virtual resume which confirms that it is indeed the same person:

Quote

Created and updated textures, animated characters, objects and segments,
splash pages and storyboards for Blood, a first person 3D action for the PC
developed by Q Studio's for 3DRealms.

Developed computer demo for Pie in the Sky Software, including sound effects,
textures and levels.

Here's a couple of shots from Meltdown:

Spoiler

The game itself can be downloaded here:

• early version: MELTDOWN.ZIP
  
• later version: gsdem2.zip

Additionally, the readme which is included with the game indicates that Terry Hamel developed an industrial-themed texture pack for use with the 3DGCS called Styx & Stones. This pack is featured on the Pie in the Sky Software's website (Wayback Machine copy) as the GCS Industrial Theme Art Pack.

[brullov]

I have found this disc.





From txt:

ANTI 		<DIR> Antiviruses
DUKEATOM 	<DIR> Duke Nukem 3D Atomic Edition 1.4
HUNTER   	<DIR> Hunter Hunted
LORDS2   	<DIR> Lords of Realms 2
ORION2   	<DIR> Master of Orion 2
REDALERT 	<DIR> Command & Conquer: Red Alert
SWIV3D   	<DIR> SWIV 3D
TOMB 		<DIR> Tomb Rider
UTILS    	<DIR> Microsoft DirectX 3 („«п § ЇгбЄб  ЁЈа ў WINDOWS 95)
WARWIND  	<DIR> War Wind Version 1.0

On the disc you can see Duke without sunglasses. May be it is unused illustration for DN 2?

[Daedolon]

That's a generic picture used in many shovelware CDs. I have a Command & Conquer shovelware CD with that picture on it. No way related to Duke.

[brullov]

Daedolon, on 27 March 2015 - 01:15 PM, said:

That's a generic picture used in many shovelware CDs. I have a Command & Conquer shovelware CD with that picture on it. No way related to Duke.

Oh, but this guy has the same style of clothes.

[Fox]

http://tvtropes.org/...ryColorChampion

[brullov]

Fox, on 27 March 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

http://tvtropes.org/...ryColorChampion

Ok, but what about his body? Only hair have wrong colour. Anyway he reminds me Duke. No one else.

[Daedolon]

Artem Nevinchany, on 27 March 2015 - 01:29 PM, said:

Oh, but this guy has the same style of clothes.

The CD you just showed was just colorized.

I'm not at home so I grabbed one picture from eBay:


I'd show you the Duke Nukem 3D version of the Action Ware shovelware CD if I was at home as well.

Here's another character that's used in several shovelware CD releases:


I think there might've been a shareware version of Duke Nukem II with this cover art as well.

[Fox]

Spoiler

[Lunick]

Fox, on 05 April 2015 - 10:29 AM, said:

Spoiler

Omg, there is so much to discuss and question about those screenshots.