[StarNukem]

Good day all, this is gonna be a long post so either buckle in or see ya never.

I’ve been playing Duke Nukem games since I was 4 years old, betting on Duke all the way to the bitter end. At 8, I was dabbling in countless editors in video games until I reached 12, where my love for Duke 3D would be rekindled by the flames of Mapster32. I’d spent so much time in that editor and frankly I owe my choice in career to that program.The simplicity and complexity of the engine allowed my creativity to flow in ways that even amazed myself.

Though while I was pumping out maps for Duke3D, I was spearheading the multiplayer scene in Duke Nukem Forever, dedicating a lot of my youth to DNF, even starting a YouTube channel where I’d post my glitch findings in DNFs janky, yet exciting multiplayer. In the early 2010s, I trained and learned everything I could about that game and its communities both on Xbox 360 and PC, becoming feared to the point of hackusations. I’m still sitting at a collective 2500+ hours between the two platforms.

It was a lot of fun for me because I had passion for Duke in more ways than one. Getting on each day gave me a sense of purpose in life and it allowed and enabled me to pursue the DNF tournaments towards the early 2020s, which I’m still honored and happy to have had such wonderful turnouts in, even getting Jon St. John to open for a couple of them. Thank you all for your collaboration and support with those events. It truly means the world to me.

Despite it all I’m now sitting here left wondering: why the fuck did I put so much time and attention into this franchise?

The answer was once simple: to boost awareness and recruit new faces to the Duke Nukem community. To show them that the horror stories they’d once heard about this god forsaken community was all just a bad misrepresentation. Too bad things haven’t seemed to change..

One thing I’ve fought tooth and nail against, in recent years, is the statement “Duke is dead.” I believed that as long as the community held strong for Duke, he’d never die, getting into some pretty heated arguments over that debate. However, you win Futuretime23. Duke is dead. You’re absolutely right. But we don’t have Gearbox or 3D Realms to blame, noooo. Ironically the very thing keeping him alive was also killing him at the same time and that’s pretty evident after my recent Discord Timeout.

Had it been a fair penalty, with both parties being timed out, I’d have conceded without contest and even apologized for my behavior, but the ugly nightmares that once plagued this community with circle jerking admins/moderators in the past seems to have not dissipated like I’d hoped. As an older and wiser man, this can not be chalked up as “kid ranting” anymore, as some would so eagerly denounce this as but rather unjust abuse of power by gentlemen who are no less to blame for the travesty of this intellectual property as I am.

This is my final post in this community and any Duke Nukem community for that matter. Duke4 has single-handedly ruined my perception of the community and the franchise as a whole. The cynical, negative, power tripping individuals that run rampant in here are what’s slowly eating it away and while you continue to holler and wine and kick and scream about how there’s no chance of a good Duke game happening, take a good long look in the mirror and give yourself a pat on the back because it’s YOUR fault we won’t get another game.

I’m writing this here because I clearly don’t care what happens to my account on Duke4 anymore. After fighting so hard for the chance to be able to come back, I’m more happy to see this opportunity be taken away again. Fuck the negative Nancy’s who are actively pumping poison and toxicity into this franchise. Let me take a moment to give a nice “fuck you” to the individuals who have basically shown me that I’ve wasted most of my life breathing breath into a community that they were simultaneously tainting and in no particular order:

Fuck you Lunick, fuck you Futuretime23, fuck you Slap McBald, fuck you Meowth, fuck you Green, fuck you slade, fuck you Hendricks, and a nice big happy fuck you to anyone who continues to gas any of these individuals up and give them a platform to act the way they do. Guilty by association.

Duke Nukem is dead. Congratulations. You win and your prize is no new Duke games! Good job! So goodbye Duke4. It was a pleasure to meet some of the polite folks on there but if you’re one of those people, do yourself a favor and join a Duke Nukem community that doesn’t actively spread hate and negativity about the IP or it’s community members. You’ll be better off. Good luck to everyone who is continuing to support the franchise through media and user content. You’re the REAL heroes, not some negative, walking sewage system that attacks people personally cuz he’s bad at an almost 30 year old game.

Good luck everyone, with your murdered franchise. StarNukem signing the fuck out.

[UltravoxSapphire]

Love you too, buddy. <3

P.S. this is who you're reminding me of right now.

[Doom64hunter]

Have you tried straferunning?

The strafe run technique has become more and more critical in the later years of Duke 3D design as most mappers are aware of it and build around it for extra challenge.

Just thought you might wanna know that

[oasiz]

On the "Duke is dead" scale I would at first glance rank you at "Anger" which is a step above "Denial" where many are still at.
I hope you'll find "Acceptance".

ps. just because something is "dead" doesn't mean you can't celebrate it. We all do for various things.

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[Dr.Panico]

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ps. just because something is "dead" doesn't mean you can't celebrate it. We all do for various things.

That's right! Just because something is dead, doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. Just look into Mexican Sugar Dancing.

[DNSkill]

Duke Lives

[StarNukem]

This is the autistic circle jerk in plain view. Zero compassion for anything. I could tell you all that I’m going to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge and at least one of you dumb fucks would say “do a flip.” Shining examples of the actual garbage that the internet can conjure.

Worst fucking community I’ve ever had the misfortune of wasting my life in. I hope we never get a new Duke game because you retards don’t deserve it. Whether you wanna believe it or not, Duke4 is killing Duke Nukem. Regard the picture oasiz posted. You’re all currently in the denial phase. Soon you’ll accept the fact that Randy knows you’re all autistic villains to the IP and has openly stated it, so don’t take it from me. Take it from the dude literally holding your circle jerk icon over your heads.

Now kindly, gag on my cock and go back to stroking Futuretime’s ego.

P.S.: I was gonna leave you out of the “fuck you’s” Doom64Hunter, and I’m still going to. You’re just a speck of sperm on a communal cum sock. So take this as me Straferunning the fuck away from this dog shit community.

Duke Nukem is dead and it’s ironic that you now wanna battle me on that fact when you didn’t wanna support my stand against it before. How hypocritical and retarded.

[Šneček]

I love 2011 Duke Nukem Forever... and Manhattan Project and enjoyed 20th Anniversary World Tour too. Maybe because I don't try to find fault with everything?

[DNSkill]

Dew dew dew da da da Duke only dies when we all disappear. I hope you can cool off and come back again later, or if you really feel the way you do, yes, it is best for your own sake to move on from Duke, but to me Duke is not dead. No drama can kill him, and the community does keep him alive. There’s a reason he’s still remembered all this time despite no new game since 2011.

[babbygremlin]

[Tea Monster]

Duke4.net can be a cesspit. It does not represent the Duke Nukem franchise in any real capacity though. There are other places you can go. Or just enjoy the games and ignore everything else.

Enjoy the Duke games for what they are and what they mean to you, not for anyone else.

[Mark]

Despite having many hobbies and interests over the decades I don't think I ever got as emotionally, spiritually or passionately involved as StarNukem has with this. I can't really empathize with what he is going thru. From that perspective I give a friendly quote from the movie Stripes..."lighten up Francis". I hope you can get past your current phase quickly and put it all behind you if that's your choice.

[Hendricks266]

2015 - Duke4.net is dead and here's why...
2024 - Duke Nukem IS dead - and we killed him… <-- you are here
2033 - Gaming is DEAD and it's all your fault...

[Tea Monster]

If Randy honestly decided to deep-six the Duke IP because some fanbois said mean things to him on a web forum, then that's out of his retirement fund, not ours.

Someone will eventually realise that Duke could have a future like the Doom franchise. Of course, we will all be dead and buried by that time. At least our great grandchildren might play a new Duke game.

[Doom64hunter]

StarNukem, on 28 November 2024 - 07:45 AM, said:

P.S.: I was gonna leave you out of the “fuck you’s” Doom64Hunter, and I’m still going to. You’re just a speck of sperm on a communal cum sock. So take this as me Straferunning the fuck away from this dog shit community.

Instead of just tossing me in the list with the others, you instead dedicate an entire paragraph to me! I feel very honored.

Straferun on Duckman, straferun on!

[Phredreeke]

StarNukem, on 28 November 2024 - 07:45 AM, said:

This is the autistic circle jerk in plain view. Zero compassion for anything. I could tell you all that I’m going to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge and at least one of you dumb fucks would say “do a flip.”

Compassion for what? Do you intend to become an hero over Duke?

In the words of Lo Wang. You are weak as a baby fart, go live in fear

[Tea Monster]

StarNukem, on 28 November 2024 - 07:45 AM, said:

This is the autistic circle jerk in plain view. Zero compassion for anything. I could tell you all that I’m going to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge and at least one of you dumb fucks would say “do a flip.”

[MrFlibble]

I expected more interesting and possibly philosophical arguments from a topic that aspires to put the blame on the community in its title than just complaints over unfair treatment by admins, topped by some random F-offs at people?

[Dr.Panico]

If anything, Duke Nukem hasn't completely faded into obscurity precisely because of it's fanbase. If you think we are the worst, I pray that you never run into the Sonic or Steven Universe fandom.

Meanwhile, while we do have our bad apples, most of us are just passionate in keeping the Duke flame alive; by creating new content, unveiling new talents, doing something with this IP when it's owners have no clue what to do with it.

Like Tea Monster said, if Randy or anyone else decides to put Duke out for good because of some vocal minority (that has been decreasing over the past few years), that's their call. In the meantime, we will continue to revisit the Duke games, we will continue to make new maps, new TCs, even new games if possible. And as long as we do that, Duke will never die.

HAIL TO THE KING, BABY!

[StarNukem]

MrFlibble, on 28 November 2024 - 09:32 AM, said:

I expected more interesting and possibly philosophical arguments from a topic that aspires to put the blame on the community in its title than just complaints over unfair treatment by admins, topped by some random F-offs at people?

Lmao you try having an argument with these peons. Anything “philosophical” or even remotely ideological would be met with about as much seriousness as a clown at a circus. They’re not capable of reason, compassion or understanding, and this thread serves to prove exactly that. Every post that followed my original has increasingly solidified my argument. Now THERE is your philosophy.

[Doom64hunter]

StarNukem, on 28 November 2024 - 09:41 AM, said:

Lmao you try having an argument with these peons. Anything “philosophical” or even remotely ideological would be met with about as much seriousness as a clown at a circus. They’re not capable of reason, compassion or understanding, and this thread serves to prove exactly that. Every post that followed my original has increasingly solidified my argument. Now THERE is your philosophy.

Do a flip!

[Hendricks266]

StarNukem, on 28 November 2024 - 12:44 AM, said:

This is my final post in this community and any Duke Nukem community for that matter.

I count two posts made since you issued this statement.

StarNukem, on 28 November 2024 - 12:44 AM, said:

The cynical, negative, power tripping individuals that run rampant in here are what’s slowly eating it away and while you continue to holler and wine and kick and scream about how there’s no chance of a good Duke game happening, take a good long look in the mirror and give yourself a pat on the back because it’s YOUR fault we won’t get another game.

TX literally helped with World Tour.

Evercade came out in the past year.

StarNukem, on 28 November 2024 - 09:41 AM, said:

Lmao you try having an argument with these peons. Anything “philosophical” or even remotely ideological would be met with about as much seriousness as a clown at a circus.

To the contrary, when people disagree with you or offer criticism of what you say, you whine about "negativity" and claim you're being attacked. You can't take the kind of feedback that leads to a constructive discussion.

StarNukem, on 28 November 2024 - 07:45 AM, said:

Worst fucking community I’ve ever had the misfortune of wasting my life in.

"🍆"

[Never Forgotten]

My wife and I went out to Chili's last Wednesday for a date, wanted to try their mozzarella sticks (they're as amazing as everyone says they are btw), when the waiter came over, he was a younger guy around my age, he immediately noticed our Duke Nukem merch (I had on the Gearbpx Loot jacket, shoes, and a t-shirt, my wife was wearing a Duke Nukem longsleeve) and so he struck up a conversation about Duke Nukem and how he had it for the PSVita, and then afterwards we stopped in Target. While at Target I had an older man stop me just to comment on my jacket, he said he saw it and was taken aback, so he had to say something. The next day we, and my brother, stopped by Sam's Club, while there I had another older man stop and comment on my jacket. These are two of many encounters I've had like this. Also the first day was in Asheville, second in Hendersonville (there's about an hours difference between the two areas) I live somewhere in the middle, but it's almost anywhere I go wearing that jacket, someone had something positive to say in regard to Duke. So I refuse the argument that Duke is dead. Gearbox might be doing fuck all with it, but Duke is very much alive. So here's to those who still care, and who still care the torch.

[UltravoxSapphire]

StarNukem, on 28 November 2024 - 07:45 AM, said:

I could tell you all that I’m going to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge and at least one of you dumb fucks would say “do a flip.”

[Mike Norvak]

If my upcoming map thread has as many replies as this probably Duke isn't dead. 😁

[StarNukem]

Hendricks266, on 28 November 2024 - 10:23 AM, said:

I count two posts made since you issued this statement.


TX literally helped with World Tour.

Evercade came out in the past year.


To the contrary, when people disagree with you or offer criticism of what you say, you whine about "negativity" and claim you're being attacked. You can't take the kind of feedback that leads to a constructive discussion.


"🍆"

[Danukem]

Mike Norvak, on 28 November 2024 - 01:09 PM, said:

If my upcoming map thread has as many replies as this probably Duke isn't dead. 😁

You'll have to create some drama, and then somehow arrange it so that people have to play the map to advance the drama.

[Gorilla]

Aw come on man don't be that way. Duke ain't dead - the last few years have been the best its been for Duke in a decade. I also don't agree with a lot of Future's takes on things and sometimes imo he is a jerk, but hey, who doesn't talk out their neck once in a while? I know I'm guilty.

We've even got new content coming for three separate Duke games. SixtyFour just released a 6-level map pack for DNF 2011, Restoration Project just announced and teased upcoming content set to be released early next year, I'm working on a christmas themed map pack for Resto, and William Gee just released several awesome maps in the last couple months like this one for example. Furthermore TTK has seen progress for an amazing looking romhack that attempts to smooth out the controls and speed up gameplay, and Zero Hour is nearly totally decompiled.

It's been a good year for Duke Don't let the pessimists get you down brother. I don't think they even mean anything by it honestly.

[Outtagum]

IT'S OVER

[UltravoxSapphire]