[The Commander]

Someone give this a whirl and see if it could be any decent. (Note you can't place blocks yet )


Download link: http://www.mediafire...fjdfaecxa9a9yr9

Extract the contents of "Dukecraft.zip" to a folder that contain EDuke32 and DUKE3D.GRP.

[NUKEMDAVE]

Now, that's where Minecraft belongs.

[Fantinaikos]

If it's in your intentions make a copy of minecraft that you can play for free and without login, then:

You have all my respect and support

[Danukem]

The Commander, on Jan 29 2011, 12:15 AM, said:

(Note you can't place blocks yet )

So what can you do, exactly?

[The Commander]

At the moment you can only break the pre-placed blocks and collect them.
Sand blocks will always fall down if there are no other blocks beneath them.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=s2_34l_4Yn0 (Older than the download link)

[Micky C]

That actually looks like fun! If the world was bigger, going around destroying terrain with an RPG, with aliens thrown in the mix would be quite a good mod

[The Commander]

I can only get it about 4x the size of the picture shown above before running into trouble. (FPS, sprite count etc)
So it's not something very viable to achieve right now, maybe in some years time eduke will be capable of rendering it.

[Scott_AW]

Finalized the grass look, heres a run through the valley and a visit to a few buildings in town.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=kP4b5dMRT3A


@The Commander - Couldn't get it to run on my netbook, it appears my intel graphics chip is limited 1.4 opengl, and can't run 2.0, so I'll have to try it on my desktop later. You should try out low-res voxel cubes, maybe 32x32x32, and I think you can scale it using con script instead of scaling it in the DEF code which gets ignored in openGL mode.

I think this might be a better option if you want larger areas. If it is possible maybe you can even make blocks not be drawn when surrounded, like simply have it's sprite set to a empty one until it is revealed.

[The Commander]

Yes, I was trying 64² blocks when I was trying out a voxel block Ill try 8² and see if this helps.
I also was using some code to make blocks the are not visible to the player be invisible, this helped.
But as soon as there are about 3000 blocks the game refuses to load the map. (I have a good idea why this is happing)

EDIT: Using 8² helped a lot to improve the performance in Mapster using 8bit, (30+fps) but in game it's still terrible. (7-14 FPS)

EDIT2: Using voxels maybe the only way to go, only problem is that it can not be anywhere as open as Minecraft is.

[Scott_AW]

Well minecraft was made to do what it does...could always do something similar but with rooms instead of wide open spaces.

Also I've started working on a little program to help with editing the palette.dat file and whatever else I end up doing with it. Kind of want to change my fade2black palette to more of a fade to darkish blue. That and possibly change the hue of the green, its kind of an icky green. So far I can read the first chunk of data and display it, woohoo.


I did find some legacy tools for palette editing, but I don't have PaintShopPro and the OpenGL build palette editing leaves much to be desired.

[Jimmy]

Once you finish the program, I'd be happy to include it in my tool pack.

[Scott_AW]

**link removed, new one below

I managed to whip up a early working version, right now its just a color modifier for the duke3d palette.

Uses the palette.dat, then you can pick ranges to alter by subtracting or adding certain colors.

This is by no means final or perfect, but mostly for experimentation and fun...or if you do produce something you like from this, all the power to you.

I haven't tested the palette file it produces, but it should....should work. Maybe I'll test it soon, in Duke3d that is.

Later I'll have it so you can load different ones, or the one you edited. It creates a newpal.dat and doesn't touch the original except for reading.

I found a few bugs that were quick fixes, this should be more usable now...still untested.

 BPShifter013011.zip (474.03K)
Number of downloads: 466

[Jan Satcitananda]

I would rather make a palette extractor which works by means of exporting/importing palettes, shade, pal or translucency tables as bitmaps for editing with conventional graphic editors. So far we have to use Hex editing for this, since the Build Customization Suite is only capable of working with palette files.

[Scott_AW]

That shouldn't be too difficult at all. I think the only limit is that the program would need to run in 16bit color mode.

I personally just wanted to alter colors, but keep the setup. However my saving isn't quite right yet, I think I'm off a byte or so in positioning. Some colors get screwed in some tests I've done.

Once I get that issue dealt with I can create a alternative conversion program that could create/convert a PNG or BMP file into the palette format.

However it would not modify lookups/shade tables/trans tables at this time.

I haven't quite figured out how those function yet.

[Hank]

Ehmm, I'm lost. Was that not done by importing a guide tile and setting the palette to it? I never directly alterd the palette.dat file.

@ Scott_AW
Have you read Transpal.c yet? Yes, ancient, but it gave you a simple table to fill out, it looks to me that is what GraigFatman wants - As I just wrote, I'm lost here, but I have to get started somewhere on what you guys are up to. Also, why do you need 16bits?

[Scott_AW]

I was adding an extra byte apparently...

@Hank - I'll have to check that out so I can make it more...complete

Right now I've have two programs.

Both require the original palette.dat until I can figure out lookups and trans tables. Look's like I'll be diving into some source code for my answers.

16bit mode is required because the 'GETPIXEL' command is basing its reading on a 16bit color range, so in 32bit mode you get inaccurate color readings.

So included in the attached file is two programs.

Build_PalShift
Use this to alter ranges of colors by feeding in red, green and blue values which are used to manipulate the colors. Right now its limited to a range of -8 to 8, although I may allow up to -63 to 63 for complete color removal. Like if you wanted to turn yellow to green. Currently this will only load the PALETTE.DAT and save a NEWPAL.DAT file.

Build_PalMake
This program can either convert the Palette.dat file into an easy to edit image, or convert like image into the palette data format. You can pick names in the handy file browser. However you still need the original palette.dat for the lookup/shade/trans tables until I get those figured out.

 BPalEd013111.zip (918.01K)
Number of downloads: 477

*Update
So I've brightened the hightlights of the colors and made the black a bluish black for a more atmospheric fade off into the backdrop.

Also shifted some colors hues around too.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=86P5JozdWgs


Here's the highlight only version attached as well.

[Zaxtor]

Did a neat effect (only will be seen when mod is done).

Is something falling causing severe damage to metallic pillars.

[bullerbullerseven]

Zaxtor, on Feb 3 2011, 08:57 AM, said:

Did a neat effect (only will be seen when mod is done).

Is something falling causing severe damage to metallic pillars.

Oh, that sounds like a pretty good idea

Okay.

I have been editing a bit with the few tree's and cactus and whatever that can look like some type of grass or plant in the nature. Now i don't have to plant the shit myself in mapster. Took me 100 years to do that lol. And they won't block like in other maps where you couldn't walk forward because you had to fight your way through plants. rawr

[Muelsa]

The Commander, on Jan 29 2011, 07:47 PM, said:

Yes, I was trying 64² blocks when I was trying out a voxel block Ill try 8² and see if this helps.
I also was using some code to make blocks the are not visible to the player be invisible, this helped.
But as soon as there are about 3000 blocks the game refuses to load the map. (I have a good idea why this is happing)

EDIT: Using 8² helped a lot to improve the performance in Mapster using 8bit, (30+fps) but in game it's still terrible. (7-14 FPS)

EDIT2: Using voxels maybe the only way to go, only problem is that it can not be anywhere as open as Minecraft is.

I realy love Minecraft concept, I also thought to do what you have done on Eduke . to Improve The Performance, you could make invisible the blocks that are too far away or hidden behind other blocks...

[Danukem]

Muelsa, are you back? DanM and I need you to finish that awesome new trooper you were working on so it can be added to DNE! There will be a big release in about 2 months.

[Muelsa]

DeeperThought, on Feb 3 2011, 08:00 AM, said:

Muelsa, are you back? DanM and I need you to finish that awesome new trooper you were working on so it can be added to DNE! There will be a big release in about 2 months.

Yeah I recently went back to work, new trooper is about 70% done.

[Tea Monster]

Sounds cool, got a pic?

[The Commander]

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=fjnDllt_g78

That was the last video I saw of it, about a month old.

[Danukem]

The Commander, on Feb 3 2011, 10:07 AM, said:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=fjnDllt_g78

That was the last video I saw of it, about a month old.

That looks great, although I think only the last 30 seconds of the movie are necessary. Also, where are those animations he showed in the earlier movies?

[Zaxtor]

That was a kewl vid.
Nice music too.

[Muelsa]

Tea Monster, on Feb 3 2011, 09:59 AM, said:

Sounds cool, got a pic?

some skins test,


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DeeperThought, on Feb 3 2011, 11:20 AM, said:

That looks great, although I think only the last 30 seconds of the movie are necessary. Also, where are those animations he showed in the earlier movies?

I deleted old video and added this one to show the final model.. added tons of animations on this model, the md3 actualy weighs 23.9 MB !! I actualy works on some stuff like bullet time effect i try to make a cool gameplay. @ DanM & DeeperThought, I will send you a test version When This Is Perfectly playable

[Fantinaikos]

Go-go alien scum rangeeeers!

[Danukem]

Muelsa, on Feb 3 2011, 10:39 AM, said:

the md3 actualy weighs 23.9 MB !! I

Muelsa, on Feb 3 2011, 10:39 AM, said:

actualy works on some stuff like bullet time effect i try to make a cool gameplay. @ DanM & DeeperThought, I will send you a test version When This Is Perfectly playable

Bullet time effect??

Just keep in mind that whatever CON code you come up with will have to be modified, maybe a lot, to integrate the new trooper into DNE.

[Muelsa]

DeeperThought, on Feb 3 2011, 12:29 PM, said:

Bullet time effect??
Just keep in mind that whatever CON code you come up with will have to be modified, maybe a lot, to integrate the new trooper into DNE.

bullet time effect starts only when you are near and facing the trooper, used to dodge his atack. I hope there will be no problems to integrate it

[Stabs]

oh wow muelesa , thats fucking awesome, and just in time too