[inquisitor]

First of all thanks thanks thanks for keeping alive the funniest game of all times.
I cannot wait that polymer is out, we are already arranging to gather our LAN again when this happens.

I download Eduke (latest) and HRP (latest + update) but when I start the "OPENGL not supported" error surfaces.
I have Nvidia 8500 GT video card. I tryed forcegl but everything hangs and Visual Studio debugger opens (I have VS installed).
Any hints?

Here are the logs:

EDuke32 1.5.0devel 20090313
addsearchpath(): Added H:/Giochi/DukePlus/
OS: Windows XP (5.1.2600) Service Pack 3
Loading opengl32.dll
Loading glu32.dll
Initializing DirectDraw...
Using config file 'eduke32.cfg'.
Scanning for GRP files...
addsearchpath(): Added H:/Giochi/DukePlus/DukePlus/
Using group file 'DUKE3D.GRP' as main group file.
Using group file 'autoload/DUKE3D.GRP/dn3d_hrp-4.0(321).zip'.
Using group file 'autoload/DUKE3D.GRP/maphacks.zip'.
Using group file 'DukePlus/DUKEPLUS_RESOURCES.zip'.
Compiling: EDUKE.CON (36 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON (580304 bytes)
Using DEF file: dukeplus.def.
Wrote eduke32.cfg
Wrote eduke32_binds.cfg
Using config file 'DukePlus/dp.cfg'.
Including: DEFS.CON (35992 bytes)
Including: USER.CON (45482 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/DEFSPLUS.CON (41302 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/USERPLUS.CON (53964 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON (21535 bytes)
DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON: In actor `SECTOR_CONTROLLER':
DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON:405: warning: `nullop' found without `else'
DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON:405: warning: empty `else' branch
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/HUDPLUS.CON (61052 bytes)
Resizing code buffer to 32768*4 bytes
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/PLAYERPLUS.CON (110021 bytes)
Resizing code buffer to 65536*4 bytes
Resizing code buffer to 131072*4 bytes
DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON: In event `EVENT_PROCESSINPUT':
DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON:26663: warning: found `ifsound' outside of a local event.
DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON:26671: warning: found `ifsound' outside of a local event.
Found 4 warning(s), 0 error(s).
Resizing code buffer to 106206*4 bytes
Script compiled in 63ms
Compiled code size: 106198*4 bytes, version 1.4+
Pointer bitmap size: 13276 bytes
2809/11264 labels, 651/2048 variables
288/16384 quotes, 46 quote redefinitions
34/88 event definitions, 394 defined actors
Initialized 32.0M cache
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/props/0569_toilet.md3"
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/props/0571_stall.md3"
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/props/0573_stallbroke.md3"
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/props/0615_toiletbroke.md3"
Definitions file 'dukeplus.def' loaded.
Using .RTS file 'DUKE.RTS'
Initializing OSD...
Using keyboard layout 00000409
Initializing DirectInput...
- Enumerating attached input devices
* MOUSE: Mouse
* KEYBOARD: Tastiera
* OTHER: USB Receiver
* OTHER: USB Receiver
* OTHER: USB Receiver
Setting video mode 1280x1024 (32-bit fullscreen)
Unsupported OpenGL driver detected. GL modes will be unavailable. Use -forcegl to override.
Failure setting video mode 1280x1024x32 fullscreen! Attempting safer mode...
Setting video mode 1280x1024 (8-bit windowed)
Initializing music...
Loading OpenAL32.DLL
OpenAL Information:
Version: OpenAL version 1.1
Vendor: Creative Labs Inc.
Renderer: SB Audigy Audio [B880]
Initializing sound...
Initializing MultiVoc...
- 32 voices, 1280 byte mixing buffers
Initializing DirectSound...
- Primary buffer format: 2 ch, 44100Hz, 16 bits
- Creating secondary buffer
Executing "DukePlus/dp_binds.cfg"
UDP networking uninitialized successfully.

Uninitializing MultiVoc...
Uninitializing DirectSound...
Uninitializing OpenAL...
Uninitializing DirectInput...
Wrote DukePlus/dp.cfg
Wrote DukePlus/dp_binds.cfg
Uninitializing DirectDraw...

[supergoofy]

uninstall your nvidia drivers, restart, and then install the latest drivers from nvidia.com

something is wrong with your installed drivers

nvidia drivers are universal for all GPUs, thus if it works for me it should work for you.


And this topic was posted in wrong section. The correct is:
http://forums.duke4....hp?showforum=27

[inquisitor]

Sorry I didn't see the section

I'll try with latest drivers and update. It's very odd infact

[inquisitor]

I updated to latest video drivers, but again no luck.
Tryed to -forcegl and here is the very odd log (game hangs on blank screen before title screen again):

EDuke32 1.5.0devel 20090313
Application parameters: -forcegl
GL driver blacklist disabled.
addsearchpath(): Added H:/Giochi/DukePlus/
OS: Windows XP (5.1.2600) Service Pack 3
Loading opengl32.dll
Loading glu32.dll
Initializing DirectDraw...
Using config file 'eduke32.cfg'.
Scanning for GRP files...
addsearchpath(): Added H:/Giochi/DukePlus/DukePlus/
Using group file 'DUKE3D.GRP' as main group file.
Using group file 'autoload/DUKE3D.GRP/dn3d_hrp-4.0(321).zip'.
Using group file 'autoload/DUKE3D.GRP/maphacks.zip'.
Using group file 'DukePlus/DUKEPLUS_RESOURCES.zip'.
Compiling: EDUKE.CON (36 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON (580304 bytes)
Using DEF file: dukeplus.def.
Wrote eduke32.cfg
Wrote eduke32_binds.cfg
Using config file 'DukePlus/dp.cfg'.
Including: DEFS.CON (35992 bytes)
Including: USER.CON (45482 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/DEFSPLUS.CON (41302 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/USERPLUS.CON (53964 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON (21535 bytes)
DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON: In actor `SECTOR_CONTROLLER':
DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON:405: warning: `nullop' found without `else'
DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON:405: warning: empty `else' branch
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/HUDPLUS.CON (61052 bytes)
Resizing code buffer to 32768*4 bytes
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/PLAYERPLUS.CON (110021 bytes)
Resizing code buffer to 65536*4 bytes
Resizing code buffer to 131072*4 bytes
DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON: In event `EVENT_PROCESSINPUT':
DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON:26663: warning: found `ifsound' outside of a local event.
DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON:26671: warning: found `ifsound' outside of a local event.
Found 4 warning(s), 0 error(s).
Resizing code buffer to 106206*4 bytes
Script compiled in 61ms
Compiled code size: 106198*4 bytes, version 1.4+
Pointer bitmap size: 13276 bytes
2809/11264 labels, 651/2048 variables
288/16384 quotes, 46 quote redefinitions
34/88 event definitions, 394 defined actors
Initialized 32.0M cache
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/props/0569_toilet.md3"
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/props/0571_stall.md3"
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/props/0573_stallbroke.md3"
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/props/0615_toiletbroke.md3"
Definitions file 'dukeplus.def' loaded.
Using .RTS file 'DUKE.RTS'
Initializing OSD...
Using keyboard layout 00000409
Initializing DirectInput...
- Enumerating attached input devices
* MOUSE: Mouse
* KEYBOARD: Tastiera
* OTHER: USB Receiver
* OTHER: USB Receiver
* OTHER: USB Receiver
Setting video mode 1280x1024 (32-bit fullscreen)
OpenGL Information:
Version: 1.1.0
Vendor: Microsoft Corporation
Renderer: GDI Generic
Your OpenGL implementation doesn't support detail mapping. Disabling...
Your OpenGL implementation doesn't support glow mapping. Disabling...
Your OpenGL implementation doesn't support Vertex Buffer Objects. Disabling...
Cache contains 0 bytes of garbage data
Initializing music...
Loading OpenAL32.DLL
OpenAL Information:
Version: OpenAL version 1.1
Vendor: Creative Labs Inc.
Renderer: SB Audigy Audio [B880]
Initializing sound...
Initializing MultiVoc...
- 32 voices, 1280 byte mixing buffers
Initializing DirectSound...
- Primary buffer format: 2 ch, 44100Hz, 16 bits
- Creating secondary buffer
Executing "DukePlus/dp_binds.cfg"

[Jarongame]

inquisitor, on May 30 2009, 04:46 PM, said:

I updated to latest video drivers, but again no luck.
Tryed to -forcegl and here is the very odd log (game hangs on blank screen before title screen again):

EDuke32 1.5.0devel 20090313
Application parameters: -forcegl
GL driver blacklist disabled.
addsearchpath(): Added H:/Giochi/DukePlus/
OS: Windows XP (5.1.2600) Service Pack 3
Loading opengl32.dll
Loading glu32.dll
Initializing DirectDraw...
Using config file 'eduke32.cfg'.
Scanning for GRP files...
addsearchpath(): Added H:/Giochi/DukePlus/DukePlus/
Using group file 'DUKE3D.GRP' as main group file.
Using group file 'autoload/DUKE3D.GRP/dn3d_hrp-4.0(321).zip'.
Using group file 'autoload/DUKE3D.GRP/maphacks.zip'.
Using group file 'DukePlus/DUKEPLUS_RESOURCES.zip'.
Compiling: EDUKE.CON (36 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON (580304 bytes)
Using DEF file: dukeplus.def.
Wrote eduke32.cfg
Wrote eduke32_binds.cfg
Using config file 'DukePlus/dp.cfg'.
Including: DEFS.CON (35992 bytes)
Including: USER.CON (45482 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/DEFSPLUS.CON (41302 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/USERPLUS.CON (53964 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON (21535 bytes)
DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON: In actor `SECTOR_CONTROLLER':
DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON:405: warning: `nullop' found without `else'
DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON:405: warning: empty `else' branch
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/HUDPLUS.CON (61052 bytes)
Resizing code buffer to 32768*4 bytes
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/PLAYERPLUS.CON (110021 bytes)
Resizing code buffer to 65536*4 bytes
Resizing code buffer to 131072*4 bytes
DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON: In event `EVENT_PROCESSINPUT':
DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON:26663: warning: found `ifsound' outside of a local event.
DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON:26671: warning: found `ifsound' outside of a local event.
Found 4 warning(s), 0 error(s).
Resizing code buffer to 106206*4 bytes
Script compiled in 61ms
Compiled code size: 106198*4 bytes, version 1.4+
Pointer bitmap size: 13276 bytes
2809/11264 labels, 651/2048 variables
288/16384 quotes, 46 quote redefinitions
34/88 event definitions, 394 defined actors
Initialized 32.0M cache
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/props/0569_toilet.md3"
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/props/0571_stall.md3"
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/props/0573_stallbroke.md3"
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/props/0615_toiletbroke.md3"
Definitions file 'dukeplus.def' loaded.
Using .RTS file 'DUKE.RTS'
Initializing OSD...
Using keyboard layout 00000409
Initializing DirectInput...
- Enumerating attached input devices
* MOUSE: Mouse
* KEYBOARD: Tastiera
* OTHER: USB Receiver
* OTHER: USB Receiver
* OTHER: USB Receiver
Setting video mode 1280x1024 (32-bit fullscreen)
OpenGL Information:
Version: 1.1.0
Vendor: Microsoft Corporation
Renderer: GDI Generic
Your OpenGL implementation doesn't support detail mapping. Disabling...
Your OpenGL implementation doesn't support glow mapping. Disabling...
Your OpenGL implementation doesn't support Vertex Buffer Objects. Disabling...
Cache contains 0 bytes of garbage data
Initializing music...
Loading OpenAL32.DLL
OpenAL Information:
Version: OpenAL version 1.1
Vendor: Creative Labs Inc.
Renderer: SB Audigy Audio [B880]
Initializing sound...
Initializing MultiVoc...
- 32 voices, 1280 byte mixing buffers
Initializing DirectSound...
- Primary buffer format: 2 ch, 44100Hz, 16 bits
- Creating secondary buffer
Executing "DukePlus/dp_binds.cfg"

Thats... Really Really Strange........... Um...Run windows update.Update windows to SP3 If you have not if you have check for updates.Make sure you got the latest driver.Update your OpenGL If you can.See if you have the latest EDuke.Reinstall Eduke.Run Eduke.See if it works.Tell us how it works back here.

[supergoofy]

Download opengl32.rar from:

http://www.mediafire...php?tzzwtzkt1zg

Unrar it to c:\windows\system32

overwrite old file

[TerminX]

Run driver cleaner or driver sweeper 2 to remove all traces of video drivers from your system and reinstall.

[Carl Winslow]

if that doesn't work, congratulations! you have to reformat your PC!

No, really. I'm having the same exact problem with my ATI card and even a manual driver install didn't work after doing literally everything possible.

[Jarongame]

Colon Semicolon, on May 30 2009, 08:08 PM, said:

if that doesn't work, congratulations! you have to reformat your PC!

No, really. I'm having the same exact problem with my ATI card and even a manual driver install didn't work after doing literally everything possible.

Has anyone read my post? Still. I'd say... No.I will not say it.OK FINE!!! I don't think a reformat is worth duke WHY DID I SAY THAT!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!

[supergoofy]

another experiment

unpack the opengl32.rar that I posted above to where eduke32.exe is


The nvoglnt.dll from 185.85 has the following hashes:

MD5: 4C78489A4E8BEA29477C871E0CE3815C
SHA1: 956755B4F5311F60907334F877A06508BCAB48F1

The files is located in c:\windows\system32

Install Hashtab if you want to check the hashes:
http://beeblebrox.org/hashtab/

The latest Windows XP driver can be downloaded from:

(English only)
http://www.nvidia.co...85.85_whql.html

(All languages)
http://www.nvidia.co...85_whql_uk.html

[Carl Winslow]

Jarongame, on May 30 2009, 09:20 PM, said:

Has anyone read my post? Still. I'd say... No.I will not say it.OK FINE!!! I don't think a reformat is worth duke WHY DID I SAY THAT!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!

It's not that hard to just make a small essential backups archive and send it to a friend or burn a DVD. that's what I've been doing so I can get this all situated.
Also, this won't just affect Duke. it's going to affect ANY program running OpenGL, so you literally have HALF your rendering crippled. You can check yourself, just download GPU Caps Viewer and it'll turn out the 1.1 OpenGL issue as well.

[inquisitor]

Bad situation here....

- I have SP3 already (as you can see from the log)
- I download the opengl dll posted here and put in duke launch folder, no results
- I purchased driver cleaner (yes I really did it.. Duke for me is worth every effort even 10 formats) and cleaned video drivers
- I re-installed new nvidia drivers (185.85), I installed hashtab and checked the hash of nvoglnt.dll and I have the same values

Nothing changed

I have this doubt... I changed video card some months ago and I was noob enough to remove the old card, put he new one (always NVidia but other series) without first uninstalling the previous. This means that when windows loads I have to wait about 4-5 minutes because if goes in some kind of error-loop looking for missing video drivers.
Could this be involved somehow? Any hint for a fix before going to reformat?

[supergoofy]

Logically driver cleaner did the job and cleaned all old nvidia drivers, if you used it correctly.

I assumed you have the latest Direct X. If not I highly recommend to download the redist install pack (full pack) and not the online installer.

Also download and install OpenAL from:
http://www.mediafire...php?gotzmkzyuin
http://file2upload.n...ALInst.exe.html

[inquisitor]

I downloaded and installed:
http://www.mediafire...php?gotzmkzyuin

NO change

I have latest directx9.0c on windows XP tryed to update I have the latest version already.
I'm now downloading a directx10 version for xp...

Cleaner removed all unused drivers but windows is still slow on reboot so I guess it checks for the old drivers.. maybe this causes some issue even if I don't understand why.
I have no problems with all other games, is very odd..

EDIT: no luck with directx10 for XP as well

If I don't solve, when polymer comes out I will reformat and/or change video card

[supergoofy]

also try the glu32.dll
http://www.mediafire...php?mzjdt4m5mmh

[inquisitor]

NO luck again
Thank for your time and patience btw... I'm wondering if other users with 8500 gt are having the same issues

[supergoofy]

It's really strange the problem you have. Logically you shouldn't have such problems.

[supergoofy]

Last attempt: http://www.mediafire...php?mlj3omgzhmj

put it in c:\windows\system32

normally you should already have glmf32.dll (it maybe hidden file)

[supergoofy]

You can try also GLDirect

http://www.majorgeek...irect_d381.html

it's freeware and the unlock code is in that page. the program is discontinued, thus use it at your own risk.

[Carl Winslow]

did you ever use any programs such as Daemontools that affect your kernel? Windows can get pretty broken by itself on a regular install, but major tampering like that can cause really bizarre issues to spring up.
This I'm guessing might be one of them. it's hard to say if it's that or just the Windows install slowly corrupted itself.

[inquisitor]

No luck with glmf32.dll

I'm receiving an odd message trying to install GLDirect: "Old or missing DirectX drivers".... requires Microsoft DirectX 8.0 or later. In order to use .... you will need to update your version of directX"

I have directX 9.0c maybe the issue is caused by the install of DirectX10 (XP) ... try to unistall them... I think this is my last attempt.
The other explanation is corrupted window somehow (I never used daemon tools) odd thing other games run smooth but maybe they don't rely on openGL

[supergoofy]

After you uninstall the unofficial and buggy DirectX 10 for Windows XP

Download the latest official DirectX 9.0c March 2009 from:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enh...ributable.shtml
And reinstall it

[inquisitor]

Before installing Dx10 (XP) I hade the 0.9c (updated). I tryed them to fix the duke issue without success.
Anyway dx10 has no uninstaller (not even in Windows Application Manager).
I installed again the dx0.9c but nothing changed. I think the system is too much messed up right now.
I will go for a re-format as soon as a public polymer version is out. Any ETA?

[supergoofy]

Go to this page: http://leechermods.blogspot.com/2008/04/di...windows-xp.html

In the comments of that page there is info about an uninstaller and how to manually uninstall DX10


NOT TESTED

[inquisitor]

Thanks for your patience so far.
I followed instructions, re-installed dx9 and registry key.
Now I was able to install GLDirect (a littel step forward).
GLdirect has 3 options:
Vertex/Pixel Shader (default options):


LOG:
GLD: (SYS) -> Logging Started
GLD: (SYS) Driver : SciTech GLDirect 5.0
GLD: (SYS) Executable : H:\Giochi\DukePlus\eduke32.exe
GLD: (SYS) DirectDraw device: NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT (VS 3.0, PS 3.0)
GLD: (SYS) Direct3D driver : Direct3D Hardware Acceleration (HAL Driver)
GLD: (SYS) Rendering type : Direct3D HW
GLD: (SYS) Multithreaded : Disabled
GLD: (SYS) Display resources: Instanced
GLD: (SYS) Buffer resources : Instanced
GLD: (SYS) Vertex Shader : 3.0
GLD: (SYS) Pixel Shader : 3.0
GLD: (SYS) DirectX Version : 9.0 or above
GLD: (SYS) ChoosePixelFormat:
GLD: (SYS) Pixel Format 6 chosen as best match
GLD: (SYS) SetPixelFormat: PixelFormat 6 has been set
GLD: (SYS) gldCreateContext for HDC=8C0113EB, ThreadId=13C
GLD: (SYS) gldCreateContextBuffers for HDC=8C0113EB
GLD: (SYS) [DDI Driver Level : 900]
GLD: (SYS) gldCreateContext succeeded for HGLRC=1
GLD: (SYS) gldDeleteContext: Deleting context HGLRC=1, ThreadId=13C
GLD: (SYS) shutting down after WM_DESTROY detected for main HWND=4082E
GLD: (SYS) <- Logging Ended

No Shader:


Default openGL:
No OpenGL support detected. Game starts without open GL

[supergoofy]

try to run:
sfc /scannow

have your windows xp with sp3 cd ready

[inquisitor]

Made a full scan. Some files where replaced because I was asked for the cd rom.
Nothing changed on game side.
Don't worry really.. when polymer comes out I go for a reformat.

[The Commander]

inquisitor, on Jun 2 2009, 02:19 AM, said:

Don't worry really.. when polymer comes out I go for a reformat.

This sound's like the best option as it sounds that your have not reformatted in quite some time.
Now I know I will get flak over this, but I find that reformatting at least once a year to be good practice.

[inquisitor]

I agree with you.