[TP555]

Re

Here the Colour Correction Bug in Show , and i can't change to 256 Voices !

I have a Sound Blaster Omni 5.1 USB !



And i have some Errors found in Rednukem.log File !

VIXEN.CON:600: warning: `nullop' found without `else'
VIXEN.CON:668: warning: `nullop' found without `else'
VIXEN.CON:668: warning: empty `ifspritepal' branch
BUBBA.CON:207: warning: `nullop' found without `else'
Sound flush.voc(#79) not found!
Sound grind.voc(#148) not found!
Sound whisper.voc(#442) not found!
Sound droppie.voc(#460) not found!
WARNING: invalid sound #213

TP555

[Paar]

@NukeYKT: I have several questions about the source port:

1. It it's more accure than the original EDuke32, what changes have been made? Specifically, is there something that your source port cannot do in comparison?
2. I have tried version 1.0 and for some reason demos from RR don't play (they did in beta version).
3. Is RR fully moddable through Rednukem?
3. What is your motivation to make the source port? Would you want to broaden the compatibility with other games?

Thank you.

[TerminX]

Yeah, Rednukem can't run EDuke32 CON scripts.

[Paar]

TerminX, on 16 November 2018 - 09:54 AM, said:

Yeah, Rednukem can't run EDuke32 CON scripts.

Oh. Does that mean that it isn't possible to change weapons with scripts? That's bummer. I was happy that this source port has surfaced because for me it was an opportunity to try and rebalance weapons/enemies and make the game overall more enjoyable. Well, there's still RedneckGDX but I was happy there is an option that doesn't require JRE.

[Forge]

Hendricks266, on 15 November 2018 - 03:28 PM, said:

Use of the imperative voice doesn't necessarily imply that it is an order. It is also used for instruction, for recommendation, etc.

You need to finish the eduke32 port that plays all the build games.

[Hendricks266]

Paar, on 16 November 2018 - 10:14 AM, said:

Well, there's still RedneckGDX but I was happy there is an option that doesn't require JRE.

RedneckGDX has no advantage here.

Forge, on 16 November 2018 - 10:31 AM, said:

Quit stalling and finish the eduke32 port that plays all the build games.


just a recommendation.

[Nuke.YKT]

TP555, on 16 November 2018 - 03:36 AM, said:

Re

Here the Colour Correction Bug in Show , and i can't change to 256 Voices !

I guess there are some technical limitations. EDuke32 is most likely affected as well.

TP555, on 16 November 2018 - 03:36 AM, said:

And i have some Errors found in Rednukem.log File !

VIXEN.CON:600: warning: `nullop' found without `else'
VIXEN.CON:668: warning: `nullop' found without `else'
VIXEN.CON:668: warning: empty `ifspritepal' branch
BUBBA.CON:207: warning: `nullop' found without `else'
Sound flush.voc(#79) not found!
Sound grind.voc(#148) not found!
Sound whisper.voc(#442) not found!
Sound droppie.voc(#460) not found!
WARNING: invalid sound #213

TP555

Just ignore them

[Nuke.YKT]

Paar, on 16 November 2018 - 09:43 AM, said:

@NukeYKT: I have several questions about the source port:

1. It it's more accure than the original EDuke32, what changes have been made? Specifically, is there something that your source port cannot do in comparison?
2. I have tried version 1.0 and for some reason demos from RR don't play (they did in beta version).
3. Is RR fully moddable through Rednukem?
3. What is your motivation to make the source port? Would you want to broaden the compatibility with other games?

Thank you.

1. I guess you've meant "accurate"? Well, accuracy to original versions(and demo compatibility) is my main goal(especially for RR games). In order to do it i've basically reverted game logic to original DOS version. Also decision to remove EDuke32's CON extension eased process a lot.
2. Are you sure that you've put DEMOx.DMO files in your Rednukem directory?
3. No.
4. I was more interested on reverse engineering part of the project which was inspired by Chocolate Strife project. Porting process was less fun.

[Paar]

Yeah sorry, I didn't spell check my post. Well, at least we can play the game in nice resolutions and with proper mouse look .

@Hendricks266: Any chance of using the reversed engineered code in EDuke32?

[Hendricks266]

Paar, on 16 November 2018 - 11:11 PM, said:

@Hendricks266: Any chance of using the reversed engineered code in EDuke32?

Yes, that's the plan.

[Tekedon]

So what is not accurate in eduke32? Or am I understanding this incorrectly?

[Paar]

I wonder how accurate is Rednukem though for RR. Demos from DN3D:AE played fine with no desync. However demos from RR desynced after a while. It's mostly visible in the two demos from the level with gas station. In the first playthrough the player doesn't kill the first revolver enemy right before picking up a sawblade (in the DOS version he does) and after that is killed by regular shots of the big alien (in the DOS version the player is killed by a grenade the alien tosses at him). In the second playthrough the player doesn't kill a shotgun enemy on the roof while in DOS version he does. It seems that horizontal aiming is a little off.

[Nuke.YKT]

Paar, on 17 November 2018 - 02:28 PM, said:

I wonder how accurate is Rednukem though for RR. Demos from DN3D:AE played fine with no desync. However demos from RR desynced after a while. It's mostly visible in the two demos from the level with gas station. In the first playthrough the player doesn't kill the first revolver enemy right before picking up a sawblade (in the DOS version he does) and after that is killed by regular shots of the big alien (in the DOS version the player is killed by a grenade the alien tosses at him). In the second playthrough the player doesn't kill a shotgun enemy on the roof while in DOS version he does. It seems that horizontal aiming is a little off.

Rednukem plays RR internal demos correctly. Same happens in original game as well.

[Paar]

I have tried it again and it definitely desyncs, result of the demos are different. Maybe I use different version of the original game? Mine is bought through GOG, version 1.01.

[Nuke.YKT]

Paar, on 17 November 2018 - 10:35 PM, said:

I have tried it again and it definitely desyncs, result of the demos are different. Maybe I use different version of the original game? Mine is bought through GOG, version 1.01.

Weird. Mine is from GOG too.

[Lunick]

How about both of you record the demo? In both DOSBox environments and in Rednukem

[Paar]

It would certainly help if EDuke32 had some internal video recorder...

[Nuke.YKT]

Here's how demos run on my setup:

Redneck Rampage DOS (GOG v1.01, DOSBox 0.74):



Rednukem v1.0:

[Paar]

Alright, I have played your video and got confused so I made another research. In the end it seems that many moons ago I modified some CON files which resulted in those desyncs. I have downloaded the game again from GOG, replaced all CON files and everything behaved exactly as in Rednukem. I'm sorry about that. I really thought that my demos were right as they made more sense than the originals. Conclusion is Rednukem's accuracy is perferct, or at least very close to it.

[Nuke.YKT]

Paar, on 18 November 2018 - 09:25 AM, said:

Alright, I have played your video and got confused so I made another research. In the end it seems that many moons ago I modified some CON files which resulted in those desyncs. I have downloaded the game again from GOG, replaced all CON files and everything behaved exactly as in Rednukem. I'm sorry about that. I really thought that my demos were right as they made more sense than the originals. Conclusion is Rednukem's accuracy is perferct, or at least very close to it.

Glad to hear that you've resolved it.

[Paar]

I admire your work and cannot thank enough for reverse engineering the game. Hopefully the RR support will be added to EDuke32 soon.

[Tekedon]

Planning on updating this anymore or is it finished?

[Nuke.YKT]

Tekedon, on 01 December 2018 - 01:27 PM, said:

Planning on updating this anymore or is it finished?

No big changes are planned ATM. I've fixed some small issues(polymost ROR glitch strikes again). See GitHub repository for more details.

[MrFlibble]

Does this support the alpha demo?

[Master O]

Forge, on 16 November 2018 - 10:31 AM, said:

You need to finish the eduke32 port that plays all the build games.

I wonder if they'll at least attempt to add Shadow Warrior support after they finish Ion Maiden, since Shadow Warrior is also open source like Ion Maiden. We all know Blood's unfortunate legal hell, after all...

[VGA]

Ion Maiden is open source?

[MusicallyInspired]

It's running on EDuke32. Which is open source. So, yeah?

[Master O]

VGA, on 05 December 2018 - 06:14 PM, said:

Ion Maiden is open source?

I remember reading on this forum that once Ion Maiden is released, so will its source code.

[Paar]

Not sure about licensing but EDuke32 uses GPLv2 license for big chunk of it's code. And if you base your game on source code that is licensed that way you have to make sure that the resulting code is also licensed as GPLv2. Which means you have to make your code available to public.

[----]

Hm ... I had to reinstall and all works fine so far ...

... but I cannot enable the launcher to play the Route66 addon. I remember I had it working before.

What were the steps again to play it?