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The Unseen DNF Video Leaks

User is offline   Yatta 

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I get e-mails about this all the time, and I figured you guys deserve to know what's going on. A few days before Christmas 2009, a public Internet folder containing some unseen videos of Duke Nukem Forever was discovered on an ex-3D Realms employee's online portfolio.

Back when that stuff was leaked, I got dozens (literally) of e-mails from George Broussard asking me to cooperate with him to prevent the videos' spread (probably because a leak would show how primitive the game looked, and would further embarrass George and cause more lawsuit problems).

I still get e-mails from time to time from people asking me for the videos and promising they won't share it--and they're probably telling the truth--but the truth on my part is that I no longer have the files after George's disapproving e-mails. On a brighter note, I can assure you that you're not missing much, as the videos looked like crap even to someone who loves DNF.

I'm pretty sure DNF looks pretty good and has a lot to offer in the last version of the build that was compiled back in May 2009, but the leaked videos were not an accurate representation of that because they were limited to small portions of levels that an individual employee had contributed to--the same employee whose unlocked public portfolio led to the leaks.

With that said, I would hint that you'll eventually see the videos (or rather, a trailer I had created out of them, which somehow spread to people who weren't supposed to see it). The only thing I wish is that the guy who posts those "lolwut" videos stops doing that, because he cuts them up and makes them look even worse than they really are. It's also annoying to people who care about the game and want to see the footage, and end up getting teased with 2-second clips every time. Once the lawsuit stuff is over, I'm certain someone will leak the videos or my trailer (and maybe even more, who knows?). That person, however, cannot and will not be me or someone who is involved with me.

As much as I would like to have shown you the video, I was sent repeated e-mails from George Broussard (I was on the brink of collapsing from the stress and the possible trouble that could have arisen had the leak not been contained) asking for me do everything I can to have the videos removed from my website and from any place where it could be distributed.

Wanting to avoid trouble for myself, others, and this website, I had removed the video or references/content from the video from every venue under my control, including Duke4.net and my personal computer. I had also been sending chain mails asking others to do the same, as per George's request. He was very serious about this and I did not want any serious problems to arise from the ordeal. However, let's be clear that I did this because I did not want headaches, not because I believed he had any legal way of coercing me (see red text).

But again, on a side note, I can tell you that you're not missing much. The footage was fuzzy, had no original sound, and contained virtually no content of gameplay that would be of interest. It was solely "test" footage that a former employee had been using for their portfolio. The low quality screenshots Steve posted a while basically sum up the meager contents of the footage.

However, I did try to make the footage a bit more interesting with a trailer I created, which added sound to all the footage and even featured new Duke voices I had a friend do for me to go with some of the things in the footage. I think you guys would actually love it, and I cite George for being the reason why you can't see it. I never planned on sharing it even before he contacted me, knowing that he would probably disapprove due to his fears over his own career and the lawsuit.
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I hope 3DR releases media soon, or I want to see the trailer Yatta made! ;)
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User is offline   Micky C 

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#3

Hmm I was a bit upset at how the blood that flew around disappeared into the ground without leaving any kind of blood pool. But I'm sure that's something that'll be worked on by the final release.

Still, other than that I thought it was pretty good ;)

This post has been edited by Micky C: 24 January 2010 - 03:54 PM

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User is offline   IGSRJARMY 

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If you are sick of two second leaks give me the permission to post the whole thing (trailer even) or turn a blind eye. ;)

It will get out in the end no doubt because I have now gathered that at least 50% more people have it from when I ascertained it, I won't name names of course because they will want to keep there secret batman costume.
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User is offline   Master Fibbles 

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#5

Don't be an ass.
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User is offline   The Commander 

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#6

IGSRJARMY sucks worse than the Irate Gamer.
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User is offline   ryche 

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View PostIGSRJARMY, on Jan 24 2010, 07:47 PM, said:

If you are sick of two second leaks give me the permission to post the whole thing (trailer even) or turn a blind eye. ;)

It will get out in the end no doubt because I have now gathered that at least 50% more people have it from when I ascertained it, I won't name names of course because they will want to keep there secret batman costume.


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User is offline   KareBear 

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Can you say which employees site it was?Ive searched through all of them and i think it was Gary Buchanan IIs which is currently down.
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User is offline   Stabs 

#9

what dnf videos? i have no idea what you are talking about ;)

*whistles* do, do do, do do
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User is offline   Yatta 

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View PostKareBear, on Jan 24 2010, 08:22 PM, said:

Can you say which employees site it was?Ive searched through all of them and i think it was Gary Buchanan IIs which is currently down.

I honestly don't remember. Sorry!
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User is offline   Kennerado 

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#11

It was one of the last mappers. Quinn I think.
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User is offline   Sangman 

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View PostYatta, on Jan 24 2010, 08:05 PM, said:

I think you guys would actually love it, and I cite George for being the reason why you can't see it.


I was thinking "seems like Yatta is making a mature post" and then I read this sentence and I just had to laugh.
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User is offline   Yatta 

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View PostSangman, on Jan 25 2010, 09:34 AM, said:

I was thinking "seems like Yatta is making a mature post" and then I read this sentence and I just had to laugh.

Not sure what that's supposed to mean, but that really is the reason why I never intended on sharing the trailer.

Why else would I not want to show others--perhaps I get a sick sort of satisfaction from being selfish? ;)
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User is offline   Sangman 

#14

It's about the choice of words, as usual you're painting George off as some evil bad guy who wants to take everything that's fun in life away from us. ;)
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User is offline   The Commander 

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View PostSangman, on Jan 26 2010, 02:03 PM, said:

It's about the choice of words, as usual you're painting George off as some evil bad guy who wants to take everything that's fun in life away from us. ;)

No way, he is a great guy. :P
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User is offline   Yatta 

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View PostSangman, on Jan 25 2010, 05:03 PM, said:

It's about the choice of words, as usual you're painting George off as some evil bad guy who wants to take everything that's fun in life away from us. ;)

Well, for the purposes of this discussion, the context of my writing derives on George's character as being notoriously restrictive in terms of letting people see the game.

Whether or not that makes him an "evil bad guy" is a separate matter, and while I may have touched on that issue by expressing my personal opinion of him elsewhere (outside of this thread), I don't see the relevance of my personal views on Broussard to my reasoning in this particular discussion. My personal opinions of the man are separate from the fact that he has had a fairly tight grip on the amount of media being released. This of course is for good reason from his side of things, as I noted that he seeks to avoid further embarrassment and lawsuit related problems.
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User is offline   Yatta 

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  #17

Enough time has passed for Duke4.net to be no longer at any risk considering we were not involved with the leak discussed in this thread, so we will now stop censoring posts containing the link to the last unofficial trailer:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=JcAv0eAz96k

Please note that the video as linked above was not uploaded with my permission, but it is in fact the original upload to Youtube (see date) and the best quality one available.
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User is offline   The Commander 

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#18

What kind of n00b would upload that without your permission. :)
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User is offline   IGSRJARMY 

#19

Well it's about time.

I should stop using my duplicate account now...
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User is offline   peoplessi 

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View PostIGSRJARMY, on Jun 28 2010, 12:50 AM, said:

Well it's about time.

I should stop using my duplicate account now...


Who the fuck cares?
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User is offline   ryche 

#21

Especially when a lot of us already knew...but whatever :)
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User is offline   TerminX 

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  #22

God that impersonation of Duke is horrible.
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User is offline   kaisersoze 

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#23

View PostTX, on Jul 1 2010, 07:46 PM, said:

God that impersonation of Duke is horrible.


I'm not feeling it either. I also don't like the dude using f-bombs for Duke's one liners. It just doesn't fit the character imo.
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User is offline   Reavantos 

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View Postkaisersoze, on Jul 1 2010, 05:13 PM, said:

I'm not feeling it either. I also don't like the dude using f-bombs for Duke's one liners. It just doesn't fit the character imo.



i agree, duke was often krass and grotesque, but never used profanity like that. he was badass and didnt need it.
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User is offline   Micky C 

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#25

perhaps conversation regarding the duke lines from that video is better suited to this thread: http://forums.duke4....?showtopic=2145
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User is offline   robotman5 

#26

already knew about the video leaks :)
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User is offline   Jimmy 

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#27

What a riveting reply.
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User is offline   N64 

#28

It's possible to have these videos now?

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User is offline   kaisersoze 

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View Postangelo86, on Jul 22 2010, 07:17 AM, said:

It's possible to have these videos now?

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http://forums.duke4.net/index.php?s=&s...ost&p=39152


Angelo-all those videos were combined into the fan made trailer that's still on youtube.
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View Postkaisersoze, on Jul 22 2010, 05:09 AM, said:

Angelo-all those videos were combined into the fan made trailer that's still on youtube.

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