[Danukem]

William Gee, on Jul 4 2009, 03:43 PM, said:

Cages new BFG.

Cage said it wasn't finished, but it looks pretty awesome already. In other (lesser) news, I redid the grenades and fixed a few bugs.

[William Gee]

I think the BFG is really awesome now, its the first time I have been motivated to add it to the game. Great work Cage! (y)

[TerminX]

Fucking awesome. Cage, your spritework is godlike. You're coming up with stuff that's better than most of the sprites in commercial games from the era, by far. Keep up the great work!

[Ryan Cordell]

Sweet Be-frickin'-hemoth, haha.
I would like to, however, see a sort of "in progress" tutorial of sorts on how you do weapons. Just a niggling little doubt at the back of my head.

[William Gee]

Our MOD DB page moved here. http://www.moddb.com/games/wgrealms-2
As WGRealms2 will be a standalone game.

[Mateos]

(Hope this question wasn't asked)

When you've fired 1 time with the double-barreled shotgun, you can reload ?

[Danukem]

Mateos, on Jul 5 2009, 12:59 AM, said:

(Hope this question wasn't asked)

When you've fired 1 time with the double-barreled shotgun, you can reload ?

No, there is no reload key in this mod, you just have to fire the other barrel. It really doesn't matter because reloading would take almost as long as firing the other barrel and then reloading, and ammo is not scarce. But that reminds me, I should add an indicator showing whether you have one shell or two loaded.

[XThX2]

So I assume we have the option to fire both barrels at once?

[William Gee]

yes using altfire.

[Danukem]

And before anyone asks: Yes, pressing altfire shoots only a single barrel if you have only one barrel loaded, and no, I won't make altfire act as reload in that case because it would be confusing and players would end up dying because they would walk up to a monster intending to shoot but then reload at point blank range while the monster laughs and shoots them instead.

[supergoofy]

This mod has a professional feel. You did a great job.

I would like though a reload key for double barreled shotgun. e.g. when you kill all enemies and you want to move forward, but before you do that you should reload. else it makes this double barreled shotgun behavior a little annoying.

Of course there is also another way to do it, without binding extra key. You can make it to reload when I change weapon and then change back to double barreled shotgun, if you have only one barrel loaded then it should load the second.

[KillerBudgie]

Do any of the levels in this mod break the old sector limits?

[Cage]

KillerBudgie, on Jul 5 2009, 12:24 PM, said:

Do any of the levels in this mod break the old sector limits?

Uh... all of them

I'm happy how the BFG turned out, the first version was pretty much crap:

looks like the rocket launcher from Shadow Warrior modified to be an energy weapon

The BFG is not finished but the stuff that needs to be done is pretty minor

Actually the only weapons left would be the mighty foot (to accomodate any changes in duke's appearance) and chainsaw (which needs a LOT of cleaning, or maybe I'll do my own one). The pump shotgun will stay most likely (even though it's ripped from Duke64 iirc)

I could do a tutorial about the weapons (plus I've found an awesome way to make colours fit the duke palette lately) but where would I put it? In the tutorials and resources?

[William Gee]

You can feel free to make a new shotgun and chainsaw, It would be super awesome to have a full weapon set all done by you.

One of thing things I would like you to do is remake the hanging egg sacks.

KillerBudgie, on Jul 5 2009, 03:24 AM, said:

Do any of the levels in this mod break the old sector limits?

Most levels are well over 2000 sectors.

[KillerBudgie]

William Gee, on Jul 5 2009, 11:37 AM, said:

Most levels are well over 2000 sectors.

That's good. The larger, the better I always say!

[ZedDB]

I've just noticed that the blue heretic/hexen vials does not hover like they do in their respective games. Or perhaps this is an intended feature?
Edit: Also typo in modb: "WGRealms2 is a DooMish Quake / Hexan" and "no 3DModles"

[Danukem]

ZedDB, on Jul 5 2009, 09:02 AM, said:

I've just noticed that the blue heretic/hexen vials does not hover like they do in their respective games. Or perhaps this is an intended feature?

I have ripped a lot of stuff from Hexen but I've never actually played it much. I had forgotten that the vials float. I'm not sure we would want them to, but I could try coding it and see how it looks. Probably it will look good, and it will make them more visible at a distance (which might be why they did it that way in Hexen, come to think of it).

Here's an example of my ignorance: I ripped the Hexen minotaur and noticed that it didn't have a death animation. Then I thought, since it doesn't have a death animation, I could use it as a summon for the player -- it would be invincible until the energy ran out, like the Holoduke (except the minotaur runs around and attacks enemies). I didn't even realize that the minotaur was also a summon in Hexen until someone pointed it out. I have coded various creatures based on Hexen art without ever seeing them in Hexen....I just look at the art and do what seems right.

[XThX2]

If you need the death animation, you can look for heretic.

[Danukem]

XThX2, on Jul 5 2009, 10:23 AM, said:

If you need the death animation, you can look for heretic.

Oh yeah, I see that now, heh. But I don't need it, I like the way it's coded now.

[Jimmy]

Yeah the Minotaur was actually an enemy in Heretic, but in HeXen it was a summoned ally. Cage, do you model your weapons or draw them by hand?

[ZedDB]

DeeperThought, on Jul 5 2009, 07:18 PM, said:

I have ripped a lot of stuff from Hexen but I've never actually played it much. I had forgotten that the vials float. I'm not sure we would want them to, but I could try coding it and see how it looks. Probably it will look good, and it will make them more visible at a distance (which might be why they did it that way in Hexen, come to think of it).

That's great! Just make sure that it floats in a sine "~" like patterns as the original. Perhaps also make different pal versions of them for maybe +1 hp, +5 hp etc? ^^
I also think it's great that you don't just rip everything and make them behave as the do in the original games! Is always good to come up with something new so that even old hexen/heretic players will be surprised.

[Danukem]

ZedDB, on Jul 5 2009, 11:16 AM, said:

That's great! Just make sure that it floats in a sine "~" like patterns as the original.

Of course: http://deeperthought...WGR2potions.wmv

[Sangman]

Very cute

[ZedDB]

DeeperThought, on Jul 5 2009, 08:56 PM, said:

Of course: http://deeperthought...WGR2potions.wmv

<3 Nice!

[Ryan Cordell]

Cage, on Jul 5 2009, 12:30 PM, said:

I could do a tutorial about the weapons (plus I've found an awesome way to make colours fit the duke palette lately) but where would I put it? In the tutorials and resources?

You kind of answered your own question there. ( These emoticons suck. .__. )
But otherwise, yes. If anything, it might help people make weapons of their own for future mods, but honestly? I would like to study how you did it. ; )

[William Gee]

I haven't played Hexen, but I did want them floating, maybe I saw it in a vid or something, and I forgot to ask for it, anyways It looks really nice I'm glad you added it. (y)

[Tea Monster]

William Gee, on Jul 5 2009, 02:59 PM, said:

I haven't played Hexen, but I did want them floating, maybe I saw it in a vid or something, and I forgot to ask for it, anyways It looks really nice I'm glad you added it. (y)

Same here. I'm getting all nostalgic already. Until now, I had become convinced that I was one of 4 people who had ever played Heretic!

Oh, and Cage's sprite work IS amazingly on a level with 'pro' texture artists of the time.

I do prefer models, but I recognize the talent when I see it. He has it.

[daniel262b]

Cage, on Jul 5 2009, 01:30 PM, said:

I could do a tutorial about the weapons (plus I've found an awesome way to make colours fit the duke palette lately) but where would I put it? In the tutorials and resources?

that would be awesome to see! not to mention it would be a lot of help to everyone interested in doing 8bit art

The BFG turned out great, it fits in well with the other weapons!

meanwhile, i've went over a couple of pixel art tutorials and started to get the hang of the rules of pixel art:


(left one is pixel-by pixel, the right one is painted with a bad choice of color)

now i just need to figure out how the lighting goes on Doom models and i can make something actually useful instead of samples and crap.

Heretic rocks by the way, but gets boring after a couple of episodes

[ZedDB]

BTW DT: is the music in that clip inspired from UT99?  Foregone.ogg.zip (3.62MB)
Number of downloads: 584
And an other thing. Perhaps we could replace large static sprites with volexes? I think it would look much better if treasure chests were volexes. If your into the idea you could send me the sprites for the chest and I could try to make a volex out of it.

Edit: It seems like your getting there daniel! Just don't give up!
I also think DT said that on second thoughts perhaps the sprite would look better with armoured legs.

[XThX2]

Well, it's boots remind me of Wolf3d Nazis' boots Keep up the work though, you are getting there.