[Mblackwell]

DeeperThought, on Aug 24 2010, 01:15 PM, said:

AFAIK a grappling gun has never been coded for Duke. Getting the physics and look of the rope and hook right would be a lot of work. It would be much easier to make a grappling beam, with designated grappling points, like in the Metroid Prime series.

In fact I have some old sloppy code laying around that does something like that.

One thing you could do though if you just wanted a quick grapple like say, Batman's hooks, even if you sucked at math you could just code an invisible trail on a projectile and move the player to the sprites.

[Simon_Croes]

Could it be that there is something wrong with the code in the Manual Reloading Tutorial? It seems like when you reload that the magazine doesn't want to be resetted.
I perfectly included the code, no errors or whatsoever.

[CruX]

I just copy/pasted the code to a fresh install of DN3D and it worked without a hitch. Here's a few questions (sorry if they seem patronizing, but it's the best way to figure out what went wrong)

A) Did you copy the code to a con file that's been modified? If so, there's no guarantee the code will work with other code that's already been added (not without some extra modification, at least)
B ) When you copied the code beneath the APLAYER line, did you erase the APLAYER line itself? Two APLAYER lines could cause some problems if not an error itself.
C) When you copied the code, did you erase the notes that were slashed out on the sides? Those were only meant to help you understand what each step was doing, but if they were copied in with the code, they could possibly cause some kinks.

If the magazine isn't being reloaded, then something must be going wrong beneath the APLAYER line, because that's the only line in the code that actually reloads the magazine. If none of that helps, post your con file, and I'll take a look at it. Rest assure, though, I've done enough testing to know that it works.

[Simon_Croes]

Jep, I copied the code in a new fresh installed duke3D, I hadn't got 2 APLAYER lines so that wasn't the problem either. I removed the slashes like you told me, but it still got no different effect. The gamevars are on top of the game.con (under the includes). The code for the APLAYER is right under the APLAYER line. And all the rest (like the events) are in a separate con file and is included at the bottom of the game.con, maybe I am doing something wrong with that?

Thanks for helping me out

[CruX]

Could be. Try pasting all the events (in the order they appear) down at the very end of the game.con. If that doesn't help, post the con itself.

[Simon_Croes]

These are my con files I use.

Attached File(s)

•  GAME.CON (149.21K)
  Number of downloads: 830
•  Gamevars.con (143bytes)
  Number of downloads: 782

[CruX]

You got the code from the edited wiki entry, huh? Okay, makes sense now. Hate to pin in it on Hendricks, but when he edited the tutorial the first time, he messed up the brackets in the APLAYER line that made the clip refresh correctly.

Change the block of code that's beneath the APLAYER line to this...

  getplayer[THISACTOR].curr_weapon PWEAPON
  getplayer[THISACTOR].kickback_pic KICKBACK
  getplayer[THISACTOR].ammo_amount 1 PISTOLAMMO
  
  ifvare PWEAPON 1
  {
	ifvarl PISTOLMAGAZINE 1
	{
	  getplayer[THISACTOR].weapon_pos PERPLAYER1
	  
	  ifvarn PERPLAYER1 0 break
	  else ifvarl PISTOLAMMO 1
		break
	  else
	  {
		setplayer[THISACTOR].reloading 1
		setplayer[THISACTOR].kickback_pic 4
	  } }
	  
	  ifvare KICKBACK 5
	  {
		ifvarg PISTOLAMMO 11
		  setvar PISTOLMAGAZINE 12 
		else 
		  setvarvar PISTOLMAGAZINE PISTOLAMMO 
	  }
	}

When I opened your con file (as well as Hendrick's first edit), the code was like this - -

getplayer[THISACTOR].curr_weapon PWEAPON
  getplayer[THISACTOR].kickback_pic KICKBACK
  getplayer[THISACTOR].ammo_amount 1 PISTOLAMMO
  
  ifvare PWEAPON 1
  {
	ifvarl PISTOLMAGAZINE 1
	{
	  getplayer[THISACTOR].weapon_pos PERPLAYER1
	  
	  ifvarn PERPLAYER1 0
		break
	  else ifvarl PISTOLAMMO 1
		break
	  else
	  {
		setplayer[THISACTOR].reloading 1
		setplayer[THISACTOR].kickback_pic 4
	  }
	  
	  ifvare KICKBACK 5
	  {
		ifvarg PISTOLAMMO 11
		  setvar PISTOLMAGAZINE 12 
		else 
		  setvarvar PISTOLMAGAZINE PISTOLAMMO 
	  }
	}
  }  // this last bracket here is what did it. This belongs further up, beneath the code that sets the kickback pic to 4. With the code like this, the clip ONLY gets refreshed if the magazine count is less than zero.

You'll notice in the version of the tutorial on this thread, and the first version of the tutorial that was on the wiki, that bracket was where it belonged. Sorry for the confusion, I'll fix the wiki entry immediately.

[Simon_Croes]

Oh so that was what went wrong Well, thanks EmericaSkater. It works perfectly now!^^

[Hendricks266]

Sorry about that. I fixed the formatting on the brace and the level of indentation of the affected code. Try to keep it consistent.

[The Commander]

Hendricks loves to mess with peoples wiki pages, ugh.

[TerminX]

The Commander, on Mar 1 2011, 01:32 PM, said:

Hendricks loves to mess with peoples wiki pages, ugh.

Hendricks contributes more to the wiki lately than anyone else. It's a public resource and the pages don't "belong" to anyone.

[Hendricks266]

The Commander, on Mar 1 2011, 01:32 PM, said:

Hendricks loves to mess with peoples wiki pages, ugh.

I cleared out your talk page once because it was full of shit and I inadvertently made a mistake while optimizing EmericaSkater's code and making it so that newbies could actually read and understand what was previously a mess. Meddling?

http://wiki.eduke32....tructure_access
http://wiki.eduke32....fvar_conditions
http://wiki.eduke32....i/Findnearactor
http://wiki.eduke32.com/wiki/Spawn
http://wiki.eduke32.com/wiki/Shoot
http://wiki.eduke32....mevar_operators

I'd ban the spambots too but I'm not a sysop.

[CruX]

The Commander, on Mar 1 2011, 11:32 AM, said:

Hendricks loves to mess with peoples wiki pages, ugh.

He was just trying to help and it was the first contribution I've ever made to the wiki so it didn't really surprise me. I didn't know what I was doing in terms of formatting. Though I'll be honest, this - -

Hendricks266, on Mar 1 2011, 04:01 PM, said:

so that newbies could actually read and understand what was previously a mess.

is a bit exaggerated. I wouldn't really call a few brackets on the same line a "mess" that people wouldn't be able to understand.

[The Commander]

EmericaSkater, on Mar 2 2011, 02:55 PM, said:

is a bit exaggerated. I wouldn't really call a few brackets on the same line a "mess" that people wouldn't be able to understand.

I think Hendricks took what I said a bit to seriously, maybe if I had removed the ugh and replaced it with a
My talk page was never full of shit?

[bullerbullerseven]

I have to disagree with that, ugh

[m210®]

Quick question of Mapster32 script:
Is there a command to change the name of the sprite in 2D mode depending on the lotag. For example, sector effector actor with lotag = 2 drawn as SE:2 EARTHQUAKE name.

[Helixhorned]

It's already shown in the small sprite label in 2D view. The names themselves are hardcoded.

[m210®]

Yes, I know it I want make other sprite like SE and I thought it's possible via script

EDIT:
I mean changing name of my sprite via script in 2D mode

[Scott_AW]

Just edit names.h

Although it would be a nice feature.

[m210®]

Scott_AW, on Mar 4 2011, 07:38 AM, said:

Just edit names.h

Although it would be a nice feature.

It's not correctly right, because it's doesn't change name depending on lotag number
well, I'm understand now that it isn't possible

[Wolf]

I have a question. What would be the best theoretical way to add more weapons in the game? I'm thinking something along the lines of fifty weapons of various types. In fact, the best example would be that I want it like Counter-Strike, what with different types of SMG, rifles and whatnot. Just looking over the wiki, the path I've thought about was storing what kind of weapon the player has in a variable, then having one of the default duke weapon slots change stats/appearance accordingly. But I thought I'd ask in case there was perhaps a better way that the community could offer.

And then, a second question. I want my weapons to behave like the weapons in counter-strike. Meaning three things the weapons must be able to do.

-During the firing event, the weapon should play its entire shooting animation (from animated recoil to return-to-idle), but be able to be interrupted mid-animation for another shot if the firing rate settings allow it.
-Long reload animations.
-Misc. animation calls which prevent the player from firing until it's done. (Think attaching a silencer on the pistol from CS.)

But.. aren't all ingame animations bound to that.. preset kickback_pic thing?

Which.. the whole system there really confuses me, and I'm not really sure how to go about it all. Also, I say theoretical because I don't expect anyone to have to strain themselves by posting lengthy lines of code, thus doing the work for me.

[Danukem]

Wolf, on Mar 5 2011, 10:58 PM, said:

I have a question. What would be the best theoretical way to add more weapons in the game? I'm thinking something along the lines of fifty weapons of various types. In fact, the best example would be that I want it like Counter-Strike, what with different types of SMG, rifles and whatnot. Just looking over the wiki, the path I've thought about was storing what kind of weapon the player has in a variable, then having one of the default duke weapon slots change stats/appearance accordingly. But I thought I'd ask in case there was perhaps a better way that the community could offer.

And then, a second question. I want my weapons to behave like the weapons in counter-strike. Meaning three things the weapons must be able to do.

-During the firing event, the weapon should play its entire shooting animation (from animated recoil to return-to-idle), but be able to be interrupted mid-animation for another shot if the firing rate settings allow it.
-Long reload animations.
-Misc. animation calls which prevent the player from firing until it's done. (Think attaching a silencer on the pistol from CS.)

But.. aren't all ingame animations bound to that.. preset kickback_pic thing?

Which.. the whole system there really confuses me, and I'm not really sure how to go about it all. Also, I say theoretical because I don't expect anyone to have to strain themselves by posting lengthy lines of code, thus doing the work for me.

Make an entire system based on manipulating your own game variables, custom projectiles and screen drawing commands. For what you want, bypassing the hardcoded system entirely would be best. You were on the right track when you talked about using a single weapon slot and changing its characteristics depending on which actual weapon the player is using. But I would not even bother with things like kickback_pic. You only need to know enough about the hardcoded shit like that to be able to disable it. One thing to keep in mind is that you can make the player shoot any projectile at any time simply by using the shoot command in the APLAYER actor code. So you don't need to make one of the hardcoded weapons fire. You could have the player locked on the Mighty Boot weapon slot but be shown holding a gun, and make it shoot when you presses fire, etc.

[Helixhorned]

M210, on Mar 3 2011, 11:15 PM, said:

Yes, I know it I want make other sprite like SE and I thought it's possible via script

EDIT:
I mean changing name of my sprite via script in 2D mode

It's possible now, take a look at a.m32.
Basically you can code the little label to display anything you want, but I wouldn't mess with the predefined effector sprites.

[m210®]

ok, I'll try it Thanks for you post

EDIT:
Thanks a lot, it works

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[Jblade]

Wolf, on Mar 6 2011, 06:58 AM, said:

*snip*

What DeeperThought suggested is the best idea - one of my projects has over 80 weapons in itself and wrestling with the hardcoded nature of Duke's weapons is still a bit of a pain. It will simply be much better to code a seperate system and just disable Duke's stuff. You can recreate gun bobbing and stuff easily enough with some built in vars. It's also easier to manage ammo rather than the hard-coded stuff, if you want to have several categories of calibre rather than just saying 'MP5 ammo' or 'AK ammo' You can detect what key the player is pressing in the aplayer actor or one of the events, so using that you can tell the game to set the gun's animation to the first firing frame for high rate of fire weapons.

I also imagine you'll want to try and code the guns (eventually at some point) to become more inaccurate like in Counter-strike or Crossfire when you hold down fire. As far as I know event_shotrange is the only real way to modify accuracy for bullets - depending on the gun you'd have a variable controlling recoil that decreases accuracy the higher it gets (and naturally decreases when you don't fire)

[High Treason]

Hey, I just about got NBCBP V2 finished and ready for release, but one thing is holding me back. I have a switch, but when I press it, it does not stop flickering on and off, here is the code with several experimental things left in;

// Stupid-ass dipswitch
define NCBPBUTTON1 3590
 useractor notenemy NCBPBUTTON1 0
  ifactioncount 1 break else
	ifpdistl 800 ifhitspace
	  {
		setvarvar currlev LEVEL
		action CBPRESS
		ifactioncount 1 action ANULLACTION
		
		  ifvare currlev 1
			setvar NCBP1 1
			  soundonce SWITCH_ON
			   quote 150
//		  else
		  ifvare currlev 2
			setvar NCBP2 1
			  soundonce SWITCH_ON
			   quote 150
//		  else
		  ifvare currlev 3
			setvar NCBP3 1
			  soundonce SWITCH_ON
			   quote 150
//		  else
		  ifvare currlev 4
			setvar NCBP4 1
			  soundonce SWITCH_ON
			   quote 150
//		  else
		  ifvare currlev 5
			setvar NCBP5 1
			  soundonce SWITCH_ON
			   quote 150
//		  else
		  ifvare currlev 6
			setvar NCBP6 1
			  soundonce SWITCH_ON
			   quote 150
//		  else
		  ifvare currlev 7
			setvar NCBP7 1
			  soundonce SWITCH_ON
//		  else
		  ifvare currlev 8
			setvar NCBP8 1
			  soundonce SWITCH_ON
//		  else
			break
	  }
enda

[Danukem]

There are several problems with that code. But first: Do you want this switch to only work once and then never be usable again?

[High Treason]

Well, that's it's intention, but I never bothered with that too much before as I didn't put an action in in the previous revision... Talking of the Action, that is defined;

action CBPRESS 0 2 1 1 1

There probably are numerous problems with the code, infact the ammount of comments probably show just how poor my coding is.

[Danukem]

The switch can only be in 2 positions, right? One for the off position and one for the on position. Assuming that it starts in the off position (which would be equivalent to ANULLACTION) then your CBPRESS action should only have 1 frame (the on position frame). But yours has 2 frames.

I'm not trying to help fix your code yet, I'm just trying to understand what is going on with the animation because I can't see the art file or whatever you are using for the graphics.

[High Treason]

Correct, and it did have 1 frame before, but it did the exact same thing, can't remember why I changed it. It starts in the off position and is then switched on by the player hitting space near it (I know there are a bunch of things like ifpfacing that should be there - but I can't be bothered implementing it).

There are actually 8 duplicates defined from how it was originally intended to be coded before I integrated it in one actor (the switch).

So yeah, switch can only be on or off. When I only had "action CBPRESS" in the code, it did the same thing and just flickered on and off.