[Danukem]

lllllllllllllll, on 31 December 2022 - 10:21 AM, said:

the htflag worked
Setting it at spawn I don't see any side effects so far

We are talking about the 262144 flag right?

[VGames]

What’s the eduke scripting equivalent of ||?Like “or”. I want to couple multiple if statements together but I don’t know how? Like if this happens or if this happens then do this.

[lllllllllllllll]

Yeah 262144 SFLAG_HARDCODED_BADGUY


Dunno when I need "or" I set the vars in such a way that 2 of the 3 values can be lumped together using >, <, and not=

[Danukem]

VGames, on 31 December 2022 - 01:52 PM, said:

What’s the eduke scripting equivalent of ||?Like “or”. I want to couple multiple if statements together but I don’t know how? Like if this happens or if this happens then do this.

There really isn't, at least not for generically evaluating statements. You can however use ifor to evaluate pairs of values, providing that they are constants, vars, or specific struct members. For example:

ifor player[].heat_on player[].jetpack_on
al THISACTOR

That code will put the value of THISACTOR in the log when either the goggles are on or the jetpack is on. But the following will NOT compile:


ifor { ifg player[].htextra 0 } { ifg player[].shield_amount 0 } al THISACTOR

And removing the { } would change the meaning.

[Danukem]

lllllllllllllll, on 31 December 2022 - 02:08 PM, said:

Yeah 262144 SFLAG_HARDCODED_BADGUY

By the way, I don't understand why your enemies aren't already lighting up when they fire. Mine do automatically, and I have not added that flag to them. I do define them as enemy -- are you not doing that?

[MC84]

I would like to be able to control SEENINE explosions based on their extra value so that I can have alternate explosion types.

onevent EVENT_LOADACTOR

switch sprite[].picnum

  case SEENINE // Alternate explosions
  { 
   ifn sprite[].extra -1
   geta[].extra extrasaved
  }
  break

endswitch

endevent

I had then initially put the following under EVENT_SPAWN... however I have moved it to EVENT_EGS;

onevent EVENT_EGS

switch sprite[].picnum

  case EXPLOSION2 // Alternate explosions
  { 
   seta[].extra actorvar[sprite[].owner].extrasaved
   ife sprite[].extra extrasaved
	 {
	  action ASMOKEBLAST1
	 }
	else nullop
  }
  break
 
endswitch
  
endevent

However it's now doing the opposite of what I intended - if I leave the SEENINE with an extra of -1; they spawn ASMOKEBLAST1, and if I give them an extra value they play the default EXPLOSION2... I suspect I do not properly understand the following command;

   seta[].extra actorvar[sprite[].owner].extrasaved

Does this assign the saved extra value (extrasaved) from EXPLOSION2's 'owner' SEENINE to EXPLOSION2?

--- I also wanted to know if switch statements can be nested? IE calling a state within a switch statement that also contains a switch statement?

[lllllllllllllll]

Danukem, on 31 December 2022 - 02:32 PM, said:

By the way, I don't understand why your enemies aren't already lighting up when they fire. Mine do automatically, and I have not added that flag to them. I do define them as enemy -- are you not doing that?

The actor that was causing problems was BOSS4. I had thought the useractor was only lighting properly because it was using the trooper's firelaser and the newbeast using shrinker.

[Danukem]

lllllllllllllll, on 31 December 2022 - 08:45 PM, said:

The actor that was causing problems was BOSS4. I had thought the useractor was only lighting properly because it was using the trooper's firelaser and the newbeast using shrinker.

The vanilla BOSS4 doesn't shoot anything. What are you having it shoot?

[Danukem]

MC84, on 31 December 2022 - 07:29 PM, said:

I would like to be able to control SEENINE explosions based on their extra value so that I can have alternate explosion types.

1. In the load actor event, when you grab the altered EXTRA value into a var, it's best to then set the EXTRA back to -1 (just in case the altered extra does something).

2.

case EXPLOSION2 // Alternate explosions
  { 
   ifn sprite[].owner -1 getav[sprite[].owner].extrasaved extrasaved
   // CHOOSE A SPECIFIC NUMERICAL VALUE FOR THE ALTERNATE EXPLOSION
   // LET'S SAY 2

   ife extrasaved 2 cstat 32768 // we are just turning it invisible for now

  }
  break

3.

Here's the vanilla EXPLOSION2 code:

action EXPLOSION_FRAMES 0 20 1 1  4
actor EXPLOSION2 1 EXPLOSION_FRAMES
  ifactioncount 20
    killit
enda

Here's what should be your version:

action EXPLOSION_FRAMES 0 20 1 1  4
action ASMOKEBLAST1 blah blah blah blah
actor EXPLOSION2 1 EXPLOSION_FRAMES

  ife extrasaved 2 ifaction EXPLOSION_FRAMES { action ASMOKEBLAST1 cstat 0 }

  ifactioncount 20
    killit
enda

[MC84]

Thanks Dan - Happy new year!

[lllllllllllllll]

Everything I was having BOSS4 shoot was custom projectiles, and of those there were 2 types that are fired directly by the actor while the others are via spawned sprites. Those 2 being fired directly were not prompting any flash until the badguy flag was set.
I'll test useractors with custom projectiles and BOSS4 with stock projectiles to see if there's anything to that or not but it seems to just be an issue of how BOSS4 was implemented. I'm wondering if it's even included in killcount or not.

[lllllllllllllll]

And after testing swapping the projectiles around I can't recreate the non-lighting behavior on any of them. Commenting out the htflag changes nothing and I don't understand why given there wasn't anything else that got changed. I checked both polymost/polymer and rolled back to 20211116-9796-dc16f81b2 and it's still displaying correctly now.
The map I was testing on has some stock enemies in a dark room with the custom ones so it's not a case of none of the shot flashes working, and the animations/projectiles themselves are very distinct as not to mix up which are being shot directly and which are shot by proxy.
I was very happy at seeing BOSS4 light up for the first time I'm not crazy really~~

[Danukem]

lllllllllllllll, on 01 January 2023 - 01:57 PM, said:

And after testing swapping the projectiles around I can't recreate the non-lighting behavior on any of them. Commenting out the htflag changes nothing and I don't understand why given there wasn't anything else that got changed. I checked both polymost/polymer and rolled back to 20211116-9796-dc16f81b2 and it's still displaying correctly now.
The map I was testing on has some stock enemies in a dark room with the custom ones so it's not a case of none of the shot flashes working, and the animations/projectiles themselves are very distinct as not to mix up which are being shot directly and which are shot by proxy.
I was very happy at seeing BOSS4 light up for the first time I'm not crazy really~~

Don't feel too bad -- I have been gaslit by Duke many times.

[lllllllllllllll]

One other thing was I indexed all of the BOSS4 sprites I drew to duke's palette to reduce the size. Their appearance didn't change ingame since it was being converted to 8bit already but the previous files were 32bit with translucent pixels.
After doing this the load time dropped quite a bit and that was about when I was trying out the htflag.

[VGames]

Is there a way to force walls, floors, and ceilings to allow bullet holes? I've noticed that on some walls especially bullet holes simply do not appear. I've tried using damageeventtile to force the specific texture to use the same settings as other wall textures but there's no change.

[Aleks]

VGames, on 02 January 2023 - 10:35 AM, said:

Is there a way to force walls, floors, and ceilings to allow bullet holes? I've noticed that on some walls especially bullet holes simply do not appear. I've tried using damageeventtile to force the specific texture to use the same settings as other wall textures but there's no change.

This is probably due to these walls being parts of moving sectors (like doors), the bulletholes won't appear on them, as they wouldn't be carried along (and would look stupid just hanging there in the air if the door moves ), remember bulletholes are essentially wall-aligned sprites.

[lllllllllllllll]

You'll end up with decals on exploded walls too.
You should be able to spawn a wall aligned decal on the event where the bullet impacts by getting the angle to the wall etc to get around the default setting preventing it though you'll want to delete them whenever that wall shifts, with the exception of the decal sitting in a rotating sector. If the original decal won't spawn make a dupe of it.

-
Is there a way to pass down a projectile's palette to the sprite it spawns on impact (proj_spawns)? This projectile is using noshade and taking on the palette from the actor shooting it

[Danukem]

Grab palette off the owner in EVENT_EGS. Or anything else you need to grab. That's going to come up for a lot of stuff, so make a note of that everyone.

[VGames]

Ok so I should just leave the walls alone then. I don’t want to add more problems to my plate.

How do I code this model to use different skins for different palettes?

model "models/nailgun/nailgun.MD2" {
   scale 20
   skin { pal 0 file "models/nailgun/nailgun.png" }

   anim { frame0 "shot1" frame1 "shot1" fps 4  }
   frame { frame "shot1" tile0 6872 tile1 6872 }

   anim { frame0 "shot2" frame1 "shot9" fps 40  }
   frame { frame "shot2" tile0 6873 tile1 6874 }	

   hud { tile0 6872 tile1 6874 xadd -0.38 yadd 0.3 zadd 0 angadd 0 }
}

[Danukem]

Just add another skin clause, exactly like the one it has already, but make it for pal # and refer to whatever the file name is for the other one.

[MC84]

Following on from my last query re: custom explosions, how the heck do you override EXPLOSION2's default action EXPLOSION_FRAMES (20 by default)? I have two alternate explosions, SMOKEBLAST1 (16 frames) and SMOKEBLAST2 (33 frames) but they will both play 20 frames when spawned.

action EXPLOSION_FRAMES 0 20 1 1  4
action ASMOKEBLAST1 3743 16 1 1 8 // 3743 tiles from original EXPLOSION2 (1890) = 5633
action ASMOKEBLAST2 3763 33 1 1 4
actor EXPLOSION2 1 EXPLOSION_FRAMES
{
  ife extrasaved 1 
   ifaction EXPLOSION_FRAMES
    { action ASMOKEBLAST1 cstat 0 }
  
  else
  ife extrasaved 2
   ifaction EXPLOSION_FRAMES
   { action ASMOKEBLAST2 cstat 0 }
   
  else
   { ifactioncount 20 
     killit
   }
}
enda

I have also tried placing a CACTOR command, but this just froze the actions on their first frame when spawned;

{
  ife extrasaved 1 
   ifaction EXPLOSION_FRAMES
    { 
	 cactor SMOKEBLAST1
	 action ASMOKEBLAST1 cstat 0 }

And I tried placing the following in EVENT_EGS;

  case EXPLOSION2 // Alternate explosions
  { 
   ifn sprite[].owner -1   // owner being the SEENINE sprite that spawned the EXPLOSION2 actor
   getav[sprite[].owner].extrasaved extrasaved
   
   ife extrasaved 1
    {
	 ifactioncount 16
	 killit
	}
   else
   
   ife extrasaved 2
    {
	 ifactioncount 33
	 killit
	}
    else nullop	
  }
  break

But that doesn't seem to do anything either...

[Danukem]

action EXPLOSION_FRAMES 0 20 1 1  4
action ASMOKEBLAST1 3743 16 1 1 8 // 3743 tiles from original EXPLOSION2 (1890) = 5633
action ASMOKEBLAST2 3763 33 1 1 4
actor EXPLOSION2 1 EXPLOSION_FRAMES

  ife extrasaved 1 
   ifaction EXPLOSION_FRAMES
    { action ASMOKEBLAST1 cstat 0 }
  
  else
  ife extrasaved 2
   ifaction EXPLOSION_FRAMES
   { action ASMOKEBLAST2 cstat 0 }
   
ifaction EXPLOSION_FRAMES
   ifactioncount 20 
     killit
else
ifaction ASMOKEBLAST1 
  ifactioncount 16
      killit
else
ifaction ASMOKEBLAST2
   ifactioncount 33
      killit

enda

Just change the actor, don't try to mess with the animations in EGS

[VGames]

Yeah that kind of stuff dealing with animations needs to be taken care of in the actor’s body of code.

[lllllllllllllll]

VGames, on 02 January 2023 - 04:21 PM, said:

Ok so I should just leave the walls alone then. I don’t want to add more problems to my plate.

The one thing that should be ok in every case is adding decals to sector 0 masked walls only if you can find a way to exempt textures with alpha. I can't think of any cases where a solid masked surface would create trouble having a bullet hole on it.

[VGames]

@Dan
Ok so this:

model "models/nailgun/nailgun.MD2" {
   scale 20
   skin { pal 0 file "models/nailgun/nailgun.png" }
   skin { pal 1 file "models/nailgun/nailgunB.png" }
   skin { pal 2 file "models/nailgun/nailgunR.png" }
   skin { pal 8 file "models/nailgun/nailgunG.png" }

   anim { frame0 "shot1" frame1 "shot1" fps 4  }
   frame { frame "shot1" tile0 6872 tile1 6872 }

   anim { frame0 "shot2" frame1 "shot9" fps 40  }
   frame { frame "shot2" tile0 6873 tile1 6874 }

   hud { tile0 6872 tile1 6874 xadd -0.38 yadd 0.3 zadd 0 angadd 0 }
}

does nothing for the view model of the gun. I tried the multiple skin lines like you said for the pickup model for the weapon and it worked just like you said it would:

model "models/nailgun_pick/nailgun_pick.md2" {
   scale 2.6 shade 0
   skin { pal 0 file "models/nailgun_pick/nailgun_pick.png" }
   skin { pal 1 file "models/nailgun_pick/nailgun_pickB.png" }
   skin { pal 2 file "models/nailgun_pick/nailgun_pickR.png" }
   skin { pal 8 file "models/nailgun_pick/nailgun_pickG.png" }

   anim { frame0 "shot1" frame1 "shot1" fps 4  } 
   frame { frame "shot1" tile0 6871 tile1 6871 }
}

But for the view model it does nothing. Only the pal 0 skin is used.

[Danukem]

Yeah hud models are a different beast. There's even a whole set of hud commands for models on the wiki: https://wiki.eduke32...wiki/Model_(DEF)

I don't know if you can make them use different pals, though, I don't recall ever trying that.

[VGames]

Danukem, on 03 January 2023 - 08:13 PM, said:

Yeah hud models are a different beast. There's even a whole set of hud commands for models on the wiki: https://wiki.eduke32...wiki/Model_(DEF)

I don't know if you can make them use different pals, though, I don't recall ever trying that.

Ok cool. I’ll check this stuff out again. Maybe I missed something

[MC84]

What is the best way to create an actor that has multiple damage levels? The following code gets stuck after the first ifstrength statement;

useractor notenemy DOORBOARDED 120
{
 cstat 273 // blocked, hittable
 ifaction 0
  {
   ifhitweapon
    { ifstrength 100
      action ONE 
      break 
     }
    else
    { ifstrength 80
      action TWO 
      break 
     }
    else 
    { ifstrength 60
      action THREE 
      break 
    }
   else
   { ifstrength 40 
     action FOUR 
     break 
    }
   else
   { ifstrength 20
     action FIVE 
     break 
    }
   else
   { ifstrength 0
     killit 
    }
   }
}
enda
	

[Danukem]

MC84, on 05 January 2023 - 12:56 PM, said:

What is the best way to create an actor that has multiple damage levels?

It's easy enough, but first we need to get clear on the intent. What is supposed to happen if you do enough damage to reduce it multiple levels in one hit? Do you want it reduced by only one damage level anyway?

[MC84]

Danukem, on 05 January 2023 - 01:13 PM, said:

It's easy enough, but first we need to get clear on the intent. What is supposed to happen if you do enough damage to reduce it multiple levels in one hit? Do you want it reduced by only one damage level anyway?

Well I guess in my simplistic understanding I assumed that the 'ifhitweapon' branch included the multiple else statements to handle the possibility that you shoot the actor with an RPG and it takes it down multiple levels... Those actions are relative to the zero/default tile of the actor right? So if the actor was hit by a weapon, and it takes the damage down to 20 (from 120), then action 5 will skip ahead to the 5th damaged state of the actor right? I mean obviously it's not working - but that was the intent!