[Hendricks266]

link credits to oasiz

[Lunick]

Bio Menace episodes 2 and 3 are evil.

[NY00123]

Just the right place for posting this, which I've seen during the last hour (not sure there's much to see here, though):

[Fantinaikos]

You didn't tell us that you made the only complete and available level pack! (at least if no one search specifically on shikadi wiki or your website)
"Mangle is back from the dead" by NY00123
http://www.shikadi.n...120501_0.99.zip

Excluding the Keen themed mod "Crisis Earth", the other abandoned attempt known is "Bio Menace 4: Crisis Dream"

[Hendricks266]

NY00123, on 06 July 2017 - 10:45 PM, said:

Just the right place for posting this, which I've seen during the last hour (not sure there's much to see here, though):

This is such an esoteric joke that I don't quite understand it. Does it have to do with how different Apogee games play the .imf/.wlf music format at different rates?

[NY00123]

Hendricks266, on 08 July 2017 - 02:41 AM, said:

This is such an esoteric joke that I don't quite understand it. Does it have to do with how different Apogee games play the .imf/.wlf music format at different rates?

Well, you can see ChaosEdit being used. I'm not that familiar with it, but it's a multi-purpose Wolfenstein editor (according to the Wolfenstein 3D Dome), so probably no surprise the thing is played back at 700Hz (like Wolf3D) instead of 560Hz (as in Keen 4 based games).

There do seem to be other misc. edits to the IMF data (like muting some channels?), again later in the video.

[Hendricks266]

My morning alarm ringtone be like

[Poorchop]

I was surprised when I found out that this game was already considered pretty dated by the time that it was released because I loved it to death back when it came out and for several years afterwards. I also think this soundtrack is one of Bobby Prince's best works. The City is one of my all time favorite tracks in any game to date and Like It Was used to kind of get me down even though that seems a bit cheesy in retrospect.

I remember some site from a few years back that talked a little bit about Bobby's process of creating music for the game. I could be remembering incorrectly but I remember reading that he was unhappy with how The City ended up sounding. There was a link to his original rendition but I lost the file. To be honest, I think the version that ended up in game sounded perfect and I liked it the best. I would have loved to see this turn into a franchise and evolve over time. Would have been really cool if this made the same transition that Duke made from 2 to 3D.

[MrFlibble]

Poorchop, on 27 December 2017 - 11:16 PM, said:

I would have loved to see this turn into a franchise and evolve over time. Would have been really cool if this made the same transition that Duke made from 2 to 3D.

It seems that heroes with moustaches had faded out of fashion by the mid-90s.

[Doom64hunter]

Poorchop, on 27 December 2017 - 11:16 PM, said:

I was surprised when I found out that this game was already considered pretty dated by the time that it was released because I loved it to death back when it came out and for several years afterwards. I also think this soundtrack is one of Bobby Prince's best works. The City is one of my all time favorite tracks in any game to date and Like It Was used to kind of get me down even though that seems a bit cheesy in retrospect.

I remember some site from a few years back that talked a little bit about Bobby's process of creating music for the game. I could be remembering incorrectly but I remember reading that he was unhappy with how The City ended up sounding. There was a link to his original rendition but I lost the file. To be honest, I think the version that ended up in game sounded perfect and I liked it the best. I would have loved to see this turn into a franchise and evolve over time. Would have been really cool if this made the same transition that Duke made from 2 to 3D.

If anyone's interested in these, here's a download link that includes both the imf and the recreated midis by Bobby Prince:
http://www.vgmpf.com/Wiki/index.php/Bio_Menace_(DOS)

They really don't sound as good as the ones that were used in the game though.

[Poorchop]

25th anniversary tomorrow. I know that I'll be celebrating by playing some. I don't recall ever finishing episodes 2 and 3 so maybe it's finally time.

[MusicallyInspired]

I went through it a couple years back. Straight through all 3 episodes. A blast, of course.

This is kind of off topic, but playing these games I've often wondered what the soundtracks would have been like had Bobby Prince (and whoever else) had composed with an MT-32 instead of FM synth. Don't get me wrong, I love Adlib and Bobby used it wonderfully. But I wonder what they could have accomplished with a programmable Linear Algorithm synth like the MT-32. Might be a neat project to try to convert (read: record from scratch) Apogee soundtracks with an MT-32.

[Poorchop]

That would be cool to check out. I'm not a fan of modern remakes of some of these old tunes because they just slap distorted guitar over everything but a proper 1:1 remake with a synth could sound nice. I'm a big fan of the SC-55 music pack for Duke 3D. I'm kind of attached to the Bio Menace music as it currently stands but maybe the right kind of remake will do the soundtrack justice.

[MusicallyInspired]

Yes, most just slap badly distorted guitars on top and play very badly to boot. Some are decent players but have no concept of dynamics nor understand mixing at all. Just blaring lead guitars and power chords all the time in a muddy mess. You're crafting an experience not just showing off how well you can play. That's boring.

Anyway..../off-topic

[Commando Nukem]

[gemeaux333]

No one here, professionnals visiting this forum, want to do a remake or reboot of this wonderfull game ?

Voidpoint ? Slipgate ? 3D Realms ?

[gemeaux333]

Jim Norwood really did the entire game (asside from graphic engine) single-handledly in 2 years ?

He could work on another Bio Menace project (he worked on shadow warrior too it seems)