[axl]

xMobilemux, on 24 November 2016 - 12:22 AM, said:

Possible relation?

I sincerely hope not. I don't want a cameo... I agree with Tea Monster... I want a new standalone Duke FPS title.

OR...

A definitive version of Duke Nukem 3D, including all the third party expansions, a fixed world tour (boss, ...), Plug and Pray, DN64 and another new episode from Blum / Levelord :-D

[Micky C]

axl, on 24 November 2016 - 12:49 AM, said:

A definitive version of Duke Nukem 3D, including all the third party expansions, a fixed world tour (boss, ...), Plug and Pray, DN64 and another new episode from Blum / Levelord :-D

Packaging together a few pre-made addons is one thing, but do you honestly expect Gearbox to fork out for these guys to make another episode considering how WT has sold?

[axl]

Micky C, on 24 November 2016 - 01:51 AM, said:

Packaging together a few pre-made addons is one thing, but do you honestly expect Gearbox to fork out for these guys to make another episode considering how WT has sold?

Ofcourse not. But one can only hope ;-)

The fact is that I don't think Gearbox can pull off a great new Duke FPS title... so extra official content for Duke Nukem 3D would be the next best thing

[MusicallyInspired]

There was that one game that was reportedly supposed to have Duke, Sam, and Lo Wang in one game together...what game was that again?

[Kawa]

Super Smash Bros?

[MusicallyInspired]

No but how awesome would that be?! Not that Nintendo would even dream of allowing it.

[----]

MusicallyInspired, on 24 November 2016 - 07:18 AM, said:

There was that one game that was reportedly supposed to have Duke, Sam, and Lo Wang in one game together...what game was that again?

Yeah, I remember that ... and how I got excited and then an insult simulator was announced. :/

[HiPolyBash]

MusicallyInspired, on 24 November 2016 - 07:18 AM, said:

There was that one game that was reportedly supposed to have Duke, Sam, and Lo Wang in one game together...what game was that again?

I'd play that. One goofy romp set in an 80s themed world would be awesome.

[MusicallyInspired]

fuegerstef, on 24 November 2016 - 07:50 AM, said:

Yeah, I remember that ... and how I got excited and then an insult simulator was announced. :/

Riiight that's what it was. I bought that game. Haven't seen any indication of anyone but Lo Wang being in it, though.

[Doom64hunter]

xMobilemux, on 24 November 2016 - 12:22 AM, said:

Possible relation?

I'd honestly take a Duke cameo in Shadow Warrior 2 over another Gearbox disaster any day.

[HulkNukem]

HiPolyBash, on 24 November 2016 - 12:44 AM, said:

Don't quote me but I'm fairly sure that Duke Begins was supposed to be a third person shooter..

I am upset nothing ever leaked of Duke Begins. I am curious as all hell as to what it looked like

[Micky C]

MusicallyInspired, on 24 November 2016 - 07:18 AM, said:

There was that one game that was reportedly supposed to have Duke, Sam, and Lo Wang in one game together...what game was that again?

Duke Nukem and Lo Wang to go Duke Burger.

[Kawa]

Not impossible. Wasn't there a DukeBurger in SW?

[HiPolyBash]

I now believe that it isn't Duke Nukem related at all and is in fact their announcement of Bulletstorm Full Clip Edition that Gearbox Publishing is releasing. It's been a while since those details made their way out online, Bulletstorms reception did include comparisons to Duke Nukem, it was developed by a company formally owned by Epic who also developed Gears of War Judgement, and the timing seems right.

[Lunick]

I'd be surprised if it wasn't Bulletstorm

[HiPolyBash]

I'd be surprised if it was Duke Nukem under Gearbox and it didn't suck big droopy dicks.

[NNC]

This thread is unbelievably negative.

[HiPolyBash]

Gearbox has disappointed so often that an announcement from them concerns me as it could simply end up with having shit sprayed into my eyes by a feral cat. Positivity is zero.

[NNC]

In the case of DNF, Gearbox essentially released a product that was made by 3DRealms. And while the game sucked a bit (or more like it didn't meet the sky high standards of expectations), the blame should be addressed at 3DRealms, as they didn't manage to pull it together within time.

In the case of WT, Gearbox did the greatest fanservice to this franchise ever (did 3DRealms create anything at the 10th anniversary?), yet everbody moan about little nitpicks, most of them are already fixed or - hopefully - they will be fixed soon. The price is not that bad now, only 4$ more than for Megaton, which did practically nothing notable to the original game (no new episode by the original devs, no true 3d emulation etc).

[Tea Monster]

I don't know about 'Greatest fanservice ever' . Getting the old team together was great, and I enjoyed the new episode. The problem is that a large chunk of the production (enemies and sound) was basically completely ignored to the point where it was released broken. I have no idea how they passed their MS and Sony certificates with those sound issues.

The point is that someone at Gearbox signed off on all this and thought it was great, and nobody above them either noticed or cared. If this is the attitude to Duke Nukem at Gearbox, then that attitude will be painted all over anything else that they do.

[----]

Nancsi, on 24 November 2016 - 11:29 PM, said:

In the case of DNF, Gearbox essentially released a product that was made by 3DRealms. And while the game sucked a bit (or more like it didn't meet the sky high standards of expectations), the blame should be addressed at 3DRealms, as they didn't manage to pull it together within time.

The latter is absolutely right. But ... GBX was satisfied with the DNF we got and thought it was good before it was released. And that's the worst part which makes me think they cannot do a good Duke game.

[Sledgehammer]

It's not like MS and Sony are good companies either, not to mention No Man's Sky.

Anyway, I don't get it why people call WT greatest fanservice ever either. If they really wanted to bring greatest fanservice, HTTKC would happen instead of what we've got with original mappers and Lee Jackson on board, plus they could release all the alpha/beta material as a bonus, that's what I call greatest fanservice ever, pretty much nothing would outdo such release and it could be the best rerelease ever, especially if they brought Chuck Jones too.

I still don't get it how they fucked up so badly, they met TX since January, even Nerve had enough balls to use Fox content. Gearbox had one job to unfuck themselves and become better company not only in eyes of Duke fans but also in eyes of the rest people. How bad you have to be at business to lose such opportunity?

[Micky C]

Nancsi, on 24 November 2016 - 11:29 PM, said:

In the case of DNF, Gearbox essentially released a product that was made by 3DRealms. And while the game sucked a bit (or more like it didn't meet the sky high standards of expectations), the blame should be addressed at 3DRealms, as they didn't manage to pull it together within time.

Gearbox had control over development for well over a year didn't they? A lot could be done in that time, especially if they threw as many resources at it as they claim (Didn't Randy actually say that Gearbox had put in more man-hours than 3DR by the time of release?)

Let's not forget the other dodgy aspects involved with marketing. Randy repeatedly lied about there being mod tools for the game. Yes I know, he didn't say "the game will have mod tools", but whenever he'd be asked about it, he'd hesitate then say something along the lines of "it's something we'd like to do". It's fairly obvious, especially in hindsight, that he never had the intention of releasing the tools. In all fairness the tools were probably a complete mess to the point of being near unusable for your average Joe, but in that case he should have just answered honestly.
There was also that mention of there being a secret level. However that supposed secret level conveniently found its way into the DLC.

[Daedolon]

Didn't GBX rewrite all the dialogue and look what we got. Also keep hearing that they're responsible for removal of all the secrets in the game.

[----]

AFAIK the dialogue for the main campaign was written by the wifes and girfriends of Tryptich/Triptych/Triptich/Tryptych (wIll try to find a source).

And Randy lied about there being secret levels in DNF. He stated as a fact and there was not one secret level.

[Micky C]

Was it actually Randy who said it? I thought it was the other guy?

Everyone (including me) is throwing all these statements around but unfortunately we don't back ourselves up with sources. Still it all happened a few years ago, and mostly in video interviews so they're relatively hard to find.

I definitely remember that DNF was written by two women though.

[----]

Micky C, on 25 November 2016 - 01:37 PM, said:

I definitely remember that DNF was written by two women though.

They are listed in the IMDB. But I didn't find any connection to other people from Triptych (if they are really their wifes/GFs). That's why I didn't post any sources yet.

I assume (just a personal opinion that isn't backed up by anything but the warm feel a few Jägermeisters made in my guts) that the women wrote something they thought boys would like to see/hear in a Duke game but not understanding the chartacter at all.

THe writing got much better in TDWCM, imho. But that got written after the massive criticism the initial game recieved for the writing in the main campaign, I assume.

[Striker]

I'm mostly thinking it'll be Bulletstorm.

[Micky C]

fuegerstef, on 25 November 2016 - 01:50 PM, said:

I assume (just a personal opinion that isn't backed up by anything but the warm feel a few Jägermeisters made in my guts) that the women wrote something they thought boys would like to see/hear in a Duke game but not understanding the chartacter at all.

I agree completely. They just didn't get the character at all. It's like they read a 3 sentence summary and extrapolated from there. Besides, why would you get women to write about what they think men want to hear, when they can just get men who know what men want to hear?

This reminds me of a Dave Chappelle bit (slightly NSFW in terms of spoken content).




Edit: What's all this about Bulletstorm anyway, is it a re-release or a sequel?

[Mr. Tibbs]

Micky C, on 25 November 2016 - 02:33 PM, said:

Edit: What's all this about Bulletstorm anyway, is it a re-release or a sequel?

It hasn't been formally announced yet. People Can Fly left Epic and became independent again last year, retaining the Bulletstorm IP.

A reporter at E3 found a usb containing some glossy screenshots in a folder called 'Bulletstorm Remaster,' and a few months later the Brazilian ratings board revealed that it's going to be subtitled Full Clip and published by Gearbox.

As an aside, Gearbox opened a Quebec studio this time last year, which is "hiring game developers to join the Quebec City studio for its inaugural title growing to full AAA production capability through 2016." On their jobs page, they are looking for level designers with Unreal 4 experience. Still, it seems way too early to announce a new game, and given that Randy recently said Duke "is not good business," I think scaling back expectations wouldn't be a bad move.