Lightguns for PC
#1 Posted 08 December 2014 - 06:16 AM
If so what would you recommend?
I'm thinking of getting a lightgun that's compatible both with lightgun games and regular FPS games. I heard both the XFPS Storm Light Gun and the MAG II Gun Controller do that, though honestly since the placement of the joystick seems weird on the MAG II), the XFPS Storm Light Gun seems to be better :
https://www.youtube....d&v=hrOSnQ3RiTw
Those things seem a bit expensive (80 US$) so I'd love to hear some feedback on that. My main goal is to play lightgun games on PC like the extended cut of House Of The Dead: Overkill as well as emulation arcade lightgun games on Mame, but would be nice to play regular FPS with it as well, even DN3D.
Also I'm wondering how things work (if at all) when you need to look all the way up or down in a regular FPS.
This post has been edited by MetHy: 08 December 2014 - 06:24 AM
#2 Posted 10 December 2014 - 01:58 AM
I'll alert him to this thread.
#3 Posted 10 December 2014 - 02:10 AM
1 . no drivers, plugs in see it as a keyboard and mouse that is always moving, no compatibility issues with anything then.
2. the side stick has a ignore button which disables the mouse, allowing you to recenter the gun, you will get really good at this.
3. sticks work great, feels natural, side buttons not so much bit stiff, but the sticks can click in, good for jump and open/use
4. aiming is kinda wonky/jumpy with the IR so probably not for Virtua cop 2, get an aimtrak if you want that, its really not too bad for fps games.
In VR the thing is pretty awesome, just turn of the mouse and use head aiming, you can move with the sticks and turn all while holding a gun, which kicks ass for DukeVR/HL2VR
I have finished a few blood eps on a lower difficulty to get an idea of how usable it is, and blood is not the most forgiving game.
This post has been edited by Stabs: 10 December 2014 - 02:10 AM
#4 Posted 10 December 2014 - 06:10 AM
Stabs, on 10 December 2014 - 02:10 AM, said:
What thing? The XFPS Storm Light Gun ?
So you think aiming is too wonky for lightgun games (not sure what you mean by "with the IR") ?
Thx for the feedback
This post has been edited by MetHy: 10 December 2014 - 06:10 AM
#5 Posted 10 December 2014 - 10:14 AM
#7 Posted 25 December 2014 - 04:47 AM
This post has been edited by MetHy: 25 December 2014 - 04:47 AM
#8 Posted 26 December 2014 - 08:00 AM
Stabs, on 10 December 2014 - 02:10 AM, said:
Have you tested the Aimtrak yourself? Is it really better for lightgun games on PC? is the aiming that bad with the XCM XFPS?
If you say the aiming is kinda wonky i'm a little worried so i'm still unsure what to get; but the advantage of the XFPS Light Gun is that it works both for light gun games and regular FPS...
However the advantage of the aimtrak is that it's compatible both for PC and PS2, so I could play PS2 lightgun games as well... I've got that vampire game and also Resident Evil Dead Aim; but Dead Aim requires a d-pad as well so I'm not sure how compatible it would be with the aimtrak...
This post has been edited by MetHy: 26 December 2014 - 08:03 AM
#9 Posted 28 December 2014 - 01:49 AM
Some people have built drivers to use the Gun Con 2 on PC. This is the cheapest option (a guncon 2 is around 20-30 bucks) and the advantage of the guncon 2 is that contrary to the aimtrak it has a d-pad, which would allow me to play games such as HOTD:O on PC and Resident Evil: Dead Aim on PS2 without having to use a gun + another controller device at the same time.
The problem is that a gun con 2 remains a gun con 2 and is only compatible with CRT; while the aimtrak is compatible with every kind of screen. And while I have a CRT PC screen somewhere I don't even own a CRT TV anymore;..
However I think it's possible to play PS1 light gun games on PS2 using a gun con 2, which would be nice as well for games like RE:Survivor which I've wanted to do with a gun forever. But maybe that's possible to achieve through emulation with either the XFPS and the Aimtrak as well.
This post has been edited by MetHy: 28 December 2014 - 01:59 AM
#10 Posted 30 December 2014 - 08:33 AM
120€ with shipping.... But this should rock, works for PS2 and PC, with any screen too.
I gave up on the idea of playing regular FPS with a lightgun, I'd rather have a more precise gun that's compatible with a PS2 as well (I've been willing to do Resident Evil Dead Aim with a gun forever, love the game)
This post has been edited by MetHy: 30 December 2014 - 08:33 AM
#11 Posted 23 January 2015 - 07:40 AM
It took me a while to set it up properly (both calibration AND finding a good setup irl), both the thing is really good. It is a bit wobbly but very very little, which I think is common for all this type of things (I heard the Wii actually had that except they hid the shaking).
However unless I'm getting something wrong, I always have a hard time getting it to work on PS2, it's like I have to try 30 times before it works on a PS2 setup. There has to be something I'm not doing properly or something...
I've played House Of The Dead Overkill Extended Cut on PC which is a pleasure. I've also played Resident Evil Dead Aim on PS2, which isn't as good as I remembered and which is surprisingly harder using a gun than with a pad (remember, PS2 light gun games don't have crosshairs). i've also played a couple of levels of Vampire Night which seems to be REALLY good, perhaps even better than HOTD2 which it rips off blatantly, a nice surprise. Contrary to HOTD2 which I fair too hard and unfair at times, the difficulty seems spot on in Vampire Night.
#12 Posted 23 January 2015 - 10:09 PM
#13 Posted 24 January 2015 - 05:55 AM
So far, overall it seems that the extended cut is much better than the original, but it's very different in many aspects and I think a few things were better in the original.