[The Commander]

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[K100]

As a BIG Stargate fan, I'm disappointed by the decision to reboot it. There is 17 seasons, 2 films, a really rich lore, and a lot can be done with the universe of the TV show.
I know Emmerich never liked the TV show, but you can't throw 14 years of stories just like that. He could do a totally new Stargate story without breaking the canon of the TV show so I don't understand why he want to reboot it.

[The Commander]

Imo, and most people agree, SGU was the death of the franchise.

I will stick to my box sets of SG1 and SGA.
It's a pity that the SGA movie never got done.

[K100]

Well, I have only watched the first season and I really like it. It was different, but really not as bad as everyone said in my opinion. But people don't like changes (and I can understand that). I need to watch the second season, I just wait to be in a Stargate mood for watching the entire show again.

Edit:

At least, I would have loved a TV movie that end everything. Only SG1 got a proper ending...

[The Commander]

SGU was to "serious" and didn't have the charm that SG1 and SGA had.

Infact I think the only time they got it right in SGU was in the first episode where Jack said to Eli "we'll beam you up to our spaceship" in his typical Jack O'Neill style.
SGU just has none of that charm.

[MusicallyInspired]

SGU stopped being about sci-fi as much as drama. It was created to replace Battlestar Galactica.

SG1's first few seasons were alright, but it wasn't until later that it really got good. Season 3 started some really cool stuff, but season 5 was when it really took off, in my eyes.

Atlantis kind of had the opposite problem. First 3 seasons were great, then it started to lose something. The stories were great, but just when you were getting into them, everything changed again. It was like things just started happening to evoke a cool factor and then were dismissed almost immediately.

I was really hoping Ford would return for another episode or two, not for the pathetic two-second cameo in the season 5 premiere. if that's their idea of closing a thread, they were already going downhill. But it was still all better than SGU.

The movie was never as good as the show. I hope that that was because they didn't have the time they wanted to really push it like they claim. Seeing as movies nowadays are expected to be longer and more epic the new trilogy might stand a chance. I'm cautiously optimistic. Not really hopeful or looking forward to it, though.

[Jeff]

MusicallyInspired, on 01 July 2014 - 08:04 AM, said:

Atlantis kind of had the opposite problem. First 3 seasons were great, then it started to lose something.

For those who haven't seen it (and may be reading this thread):

Spoiler

McKay gets arrow in ass

[The Commander]

That's the kind of stuff SGU was lacking.

[Soap DX]

I'm guessing Emmerick just doesn't care about anything stargate and just wants to remake it. Like K100 said why would you just walk all over the great rich lore that's been created.

I loved the first stargate movie but I loved even more where the TV show brought it. And honestly his movies all have very similar themes and characters to the point of being un-original. There's a video out there which compares stargate the movie to independence day the movie and its got many similarities.

I don't even care for star gate 2.0 and its not even started, its going to be like tones of explosion generic movies of today.

He's gonna do another independance day also.

[Micky C]

How did I not see this thread??
Sorry for the bump, but I'm a pretty big stargate fan so this is interesting news to say the least.

Like K100 said, it would have been nice if they actually ended the Atlantis and Universe branches, or at least the Universe one; I'd assume that stuff would keep going on at Atlantis after the Wraith are defeated just like they do at Stargate Command. I was a fan of all 3 shows, although I know people who only liked SG1 (and not Atlantis).

Still, seeing as none of that's happening, I'm glad that they're doing something with Stargate as opposed to nothing. Making a potentially epic theatrical trilogy could be a good way to bring back into the general public's sight. If people don't like the new movies then who cares, just ignore them. It's not like SG1 is going to be erased from time; the shows will still be there to rewatch.

The question is, if they aren't going to reboot it, then what the hell are they supposed to do? Earth is waaaayyy too advanced these days with their asgard intergalactic hyperdrives, shields and plasma beam weapons for there to be a truly intimidating big new enemy and have it be interesting IMO. That's why Universe worked, it took the show away from all that advantage. Plus it'd be kind of stretching the plot if the Milky Way galaxy just happened to have a 3rd big powerful evil faction come in, in a short time frame (after Gou'ld and the Ori, not to mention the replicators). So while there may be one or two interesting ideas to do, I think more or less the franchise has run its course anyway. I take it people disagree?

[MusicallyInspired]

I just wish they were better at closing threads. They finished off SG1 nicely, they just didn't care about closing off anything else properly. The only thread that bugs me that was never ever closed was Kinsey's escape. He was just never mentioned again.

I really wantes a proper ensing to Atlantis. I preferred it over SG1. They had planned entire episodes for a whole new season and a movie as a backup and did neither. I guess there weren't really missing threads or anything, it was just....cancelled. It deserved to go out better than that. It just all ended rather clumsily and abruptly.

I was never a fan of SGU. The sci-fi aspect (which admittedly was good and picked up towards the end of season 1) always took a back seat to drama and character development, which was boring to me. I know it was the whole point and direction of the show, just wasn't my taste. The premise of the show was great.

I don't mind ut getting a reboot. You're right, the show universe really did have a good run. But the shows were better than the movie so, again, I'm cautiously optimistic about the new trilogy.

[Kyanos]

Ditto, The movie was ok. I was a fan of SG1 as it was running, and atlantis was good too. A trilogy movie seems like just another unimaginative attempt to rake in money from Hollywood. Why do they need to be remakes all the time, let it go off in peace. And a trilogy to boot, I will not watch 6 hrs of sg movies... or any movies really... ps I hate almost everything atm. Trololol

[The Commander]

Micky C, on 03 October 2014 - 03:38 PM, said:

Like K100 said, it would have been nice if they actually ended the Atlantis and Universe branches, or at least the Universe one;

Eat shit, Universe was an abomination to the Stargate franchise and ultimately caused it's death.

This here is the only decent scene in SGU because it has O'Neill's great humour in it.


I mean, how can you compare SGU to this clip that was "recommend/suggested" box on the right after looking at the one above.

[Micky C]

What I meant is that Universe was the only one that felt like it was working towards some kind of goal (beyond "kill all the bad guys"), at least in the 2nd season. But it didn't get anywhere close to it.

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Atlantis kind of had the opposite problem. First 3 seasons were great, then it started to lose something. The stories were great, but just when you were getting into them, everything changed again. It was like things just started happening to evoke a cool factor and then were dismissed almost immediately.

I agree with Musicallyinspired. Atlantis in the last season or two became... I'm going to say formulaic for a lack of better word.
It's like:

• Oh there's a threat/problem
• Let's all stand around and have a dull conversation about why can't solve it easily (I'll admit this is necessary, but it's boring. Note again that Earth is so advanced with their ships and stuff that they needed to devote more and more time to this conversation factor as the show progressed)
• Problem is almost solved, but oh wait there's a twist and the original solution doesn't work.
• Don't worry Mckay fixes everything at the last minute.

Atlantis did have good stories, but the above happened more than it should have. The other problem I had with Atlantis was how it handled the new bad guys. We all know how hard it was to wipe out the regular Replicators in SG1, but guess what, the humanoid replicators are back, and they have ALL THE TECHNOLOGY AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE ANCIENTS as well! So naturally the Atlantis expedition manages to get rid of them all in roughly the span of a season (one and a bit?). I mean come on.... they wipe those guys out but can't even take care of the Wraith who don't even have shields for their ships? They also even brought back the Asgards, but even then their ships were still pretty weak in the grand scheme of things which is a missed opportunity. I also never say Michael as a serious threat or understood where the danger was coming from with that, so I found most of his episodes downright annoying.

[MusicallyInspired]

Yeah, Michael was supposed to be some sort of major nemesis, but he just didn't FEEL like it at all. Apparently, Michael was going to make ANOTHER comeback in the scrapped 6th season.

[Micky C]

What? After they killed him off? That's hilarious.

Something that would have been interesting (and I think I read the next SG1 movie was going to be about) was having the stargate program go public. That's probably another season or two of material right there.