[Lunick]

That hammer sprite is cool!

Spoiler

Thanks to HMNuke93 for making a coloured version

[jet_nick]

TerminX, on 28 June 2017 - 04:27 PM, said:

What kind of updates are you looking for beyond me saying that I'm not currently working with Gearbox on anything and don't have permission to release full builds?

Who else is missing the authorization?

[Tea Monster]

Maybe plot or story differences between levels? Possibly taking screen shots at various places in famous levels, one during early beta, and comparing to how it shipped.

...

You did ask!

[Perro Seco]

I've got a question, but I'm afraid it's going to sound like "I want betas" or something, so I really hope not to be annoying...

In Hendrick's video there's a proto version of the track Gotham that I like a lot. Could it be possible to release it? Dark Matter is also featured in the video and it was released.

That was all that I wanted to ask. Please, don't hate me.

[Hendricks266]

I also like beta Gotham. That bassline.

[Sanek]

I like that verison too. Somehow it fits the space theme perfectly.

[Minigunner]

I'd turn to Lee Jackson first regarding the beta midis, then to Gearbox if they own the copyright to his in-game works.

[MTR]

So according to Randy - beta builds are finally happening and you are going to release it soon with Gearbox Publishing?

[Hendricks266]

You read too far into it. What you did hear is Randy saying he was okay with it, and that's the real thing to be excited about.

In other news, we're not done with SW betas yet...

[MTR]

Thanks for answering, Hendricks. Please don't hate me, but honestly SW betas can wait, Devolver always open for it. You guys now have finally greenlight to release after so long time, and you should now better focus on Duke3D betas and release them as fast as possible before it will be too late. Let's be honest, chances to lose opportunity again are high, anything can happen.

[jet_nick]

MTR, on 08 July 2017 - 12:47 AM, said:

Thanks for answering, Hendricks. Please don't hate me, but honestly SW betas can wait, Devolver always open for it. You guys now have finally greenlight to release after so long time, and you should now better focus on Duke3D betas and release them as fast as possible before it will be too late. Let's be honest, chances to lose opportunity again are high, anything can happen.

I agree with MTR, You should release them before something else happens

[Hendricks266]

LMFAO. Calm down guys.



The ball is not in my court right now.

[DNV]

SW builds are impressive, however DN3D builds has a higher priority than the SW builds for me and for many duke fans I think.

[Minigunner]

Better to work on what's already in-progress than shelf it for a larger undertaking. I personally don't see the Shadow Warrior stuff taking so long that the Duke situation will get adversely affected.

[Hendricks266]

There is no "work" that I can do on any Duke 3D betas at the moment.

[MTR]

Minigunner, on 08 July 2017 - 02:01 AM, said:

Better to work on what's already in-progress than shelf it for a larger undertaking. I personally don't see the Shadow Warrior stuff taking so long that the Duke situation will get adversely affected.

Everyone thinked 3 years ago that there is no need for speed up for releasing, espicially Fred thinked that way. And everyone saw how it ended. It ended fucking badly. All these dreams and promises about this stuff just dissapeared. Now here is the chance, probably LAST chance, it just can not be wasted again just like Frederik wasted it.

Hendricks266, on 08 July 2017 - 02:09 AM, said:

There is no "work" that I can do on any Duke 3D betas at the moment.

Hendricks, I understand that you can't do much about it, then let's wait for what TX has to say.

[Hendricks266]

The very most either TX or I could do is not let this conversation pass from memory.

I've literally had that 1994 "LamerDuke" packaged and ready to go since I shot this video for 3D Realms in 2014.

[Minigunner]

I meant the Shadow Warrior builds as in-progress. The Duke builds afaik are the larger undertaking, even if just for legal reasons.

[MTR]

Hendricks266, on 08 July 2017 - 02:18 AM, said:

The very most either TX or I could do is not let this conversation pass from memory.

Sorry, but you sounds like "meh, fuck it, we have just got an OK for releasing builds but I'm not in the mood to work on it, maybe in the next few years". No offense dude, I know I have zero support here and everyone will shit on me, but that sounds exactly that way to be honest.

Minigunner, on 08 July 2017 - 02:19 AM, said:

I meant the Shadow Warrior builds as in-progress. The Duke builds afaik are the larger undertaking, even if just for legal reasons.

According to TX and Hendricks most(or atleast, a lot) of the builds were collected by them and were uploaded for Fred on the SVN. Yet, Fred did nothing.

[Hendricks266]

For Duke 3D, just the one. The others are messier but would not be too hard either.

[NY00123]

For now it's probably safer for me to assume none of the builds will be released. As hinted by Randy in that video (and also known long beforehand), it's better to not make a promise before it is fulfilled.

Let's not forget what we *do* have access to:
- The 9 Shadow Warrior prototype builds.
- LameDuke (and the leaked "v0.99" beta).

[NNC]

Wow, looking at that LamerDuke video, it seems Traffic Jam by Olivier Boucher is the oldest map of the released Duke levels, official and inofficial too (well, at least its' second half). Maybe Stadium competes, who knows.

[icecoldduke]

Nancsi, on 08 July 2017 - 06:01 AM, said:

Wow, looking at that LamerDuke video, it seems Traffic Jam by Olivier Boucher is the oldest map of the released Duke levels, official and inofficial too (well, at least its' second half). Maybe Stadium competes, who knows.

LamerDuke, while on the extreme side, is the level of content you guys should expect from early builds of Duke3D. Some of you probably already know that, but it would be a shame if Gearbox never authorized the release of these builds, because they don't want to hear you guys shit all over the content.

[Dr_Proton]

icecoldduke, on 08 July 2017 - 06:22 AM, said:

LamerDuke, while on the extreme side, is the level of content you guys should expect from early builds of Duke3D. Some of you probably already know that, but it would be a shame if Gearbox never authorized the release of these builds, because they don't want to hear you guys shit all over the content.

Especially when Randy talked about World Tour and how people gave him shit for it. He really sounded hurt by that. Maybe he can't handle criticism as well and just got careful not to make any mistakes regarding the Duke franchise.

[Hendricks266]

MTR, on 08 July 2017 - 03:04 AM, said:

Sorry, but you sounds like "meh, fuck it, we have just got an OK for releasing builds but I'm not in the mood to work on it, maybe in the next few years". No offense dude, I know I have zero support here and everyone will shit on me, but that sounds exactly that way to be honest.

This post needs more downvotes.

[PikaCommando]

Hendricks266, on 08 July 2017 - 12:29 AM, said:

In other news, we're not done with SW betas yet...

More builds, or did you finally crack that final '95 build?

[jet_nick]

We will not easily see those early DN builds

[Hendricks266]

MTR, on 08 July 2017 - 03:04 AM, said:

Sorry, but you sounds like "meh, fuck it, we have just got an OK for releasing builds but I'm not in the mood to work on it, maybe in the next few years". No offense dude, I know I have zero support here and everyone will shit on me, but that sounds exactly that way to be honest.

We did not get "an OK for releasing builds". Randy stated that he is interested in letting it happen.

[DNSkill]

Why do so many people here act like children over this prototype content? You act like if you don't get it right this minute you will die. It's not like it was a few years ago when nobody even knew if the prototypes still existed. They do exist, and people who are part of this community have them, and have them archived to ensure they don't get lost. So they will see the light of day at some point, but it isn't as cut and dry as some of you seem to think that it is. TX and Hendricks have lives, and they're also making a commercial product, and have several other things that are higher priority. With all the time you take to bitch on here about them releasing the content, you could've done something productive or useful. Even sucking your own dick would've been worth more than whining over alpha/beta material.

[Minigunner]

Not to mention that all the replies in the Duke Nukem thread alone show Randy that there's A LOT of interest. There's quite a bit of steps and considerations to go through before this can be given the greenlight, so yeah.