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User is offline   Ninety-Six 

#4891

View PostDoom64hunter, on 25 June 2026 - 01:02 PM, said:

There are many, many more examples of Bobby reusing melodies, riffs, entire percussion tracks or even the entire structure of the song in other midis.


When I started the vid, I thought the first song he played was Pounding Headache from Wolf3D, until remembering he limited it to strictly Doom 1 and 2.

View PostDoom64hunter, on 25 June 2026 - 01:02 PM, said:

I don't find that it devalues his work, I actually find it interesting to discover the connections.


I think Deixaz is just being cautious. I think he was planning on making this video anyway but then the news hit midway into it. I can see some people being emotional over the death acting irrationally towards this purely because it only just happened.

Not saying those people are correct or anything, I just think he doesn't want such conversations distracting from the main point.
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User is online   ck3D 

#4892

AI causing production costs for Microsoft consoles to skyrocket, id Software apparently getting the shit end of the stick in some way, according to:



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#4893

View Postck3D, on 28 June 2026 - 07:12 AM, said:

AI causing production costs for Microsoft consoles to skyrocket, id Software apparently getting the shit end of the stick in some way, according to:



Trash video from a clickbait channel who scapegoats everything on AI and greed. Just parroting what other idiots say.

Xbox was losing 64 cents for every dollar invested into the game studios under their label: https://archive.is/0ZSCa

The truth is that it has nothing to do with AI. The studios were simply unprofitable, and the Gamepass model under Phil Spencer was a failure. What you're seeing now is the result of that model crashing and burning.

The games can be as good as they want. If Microsoft keeps losing money, then these studios *will* be downsized as a result. It simply isn't a welfare business.

Edit: The author strikes me as the kind of person who's larping as a leftist because he thinks it gives him easy answers to every question in life. Just blame it on greed and AI!

This post has been edited by Doom64hunter: 30 July 2026 - 01:55 AM

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User is online   ck3D 

#4894

View PostDoom64hunter, on 30 July 2026 - 01:46 AM, said:

Trash video from a clickbait channel who scapegoats everything on AI and greed. Just parroting what other idiots say.

Xbox was losing 64 cents for every dollar invested into the game studios under their label: https://archive.is/0ZSCa

The truth is that it has nothing to do with AI. The studios were simply unprofitable, and the Gamepass model under Phil Spencer was a failure. What you're seeing now is the result of that model crashing and burning.

The games can be as good as they want. If Microsoft keeps losing money, then these studios *will* be downsized as a result. It simply isn't a welfare business.

Edit: The author strikes me as the kind of person who's larping as a leftist because he thinks it gives him easy answers to every question in life. Just blame it on greed and AI!


Thanks for correcting re: quality of source.

However I wouldn't be so quick at ruling out the role of AI in this at all (generally it is absolutely destructive to our society, I don't even care to argue with whoever would disagree, putting it in writing right here: they can piss off). You don't think that within the same group, budgets telescope? Of course business involves cutting out the unprofitable but generally makes sense that would be in favor of the most profitable. Saying AI has nothing to do with this sounds like either tunnel vision from an ignorant or biased standpoint, or irresponsible wannabe-tech bro garbo speech, either way is just refusing to put two and two together. I am not used to seeing your logic trip like that, it doesn't read like you. Did you yourself get that point from somewhere else?

Like, you know what I mean - if something is a correlation, calling it 'just a correlation' isn't going to invalidate it if someone doesn't like it. I promise not everybody is this dumb, that's just someone's brains on Elon.

This post has been edited by ck3D: 30 July 2026 - 04:29 AM

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View Postck3D, on 30 July 2026 - 04:15 AM, said:

Thanks for correcting re: quality of source.

However I wouldn't be so quick at ruling out the role of AI in this at all (generally it is absolutely destructive to our society, I don't even care to argue with whoever would disagree, putting it in writing right here: they can piss off). You don't think that within the same group, budgets telescope? Of course business involves cutting out the unprofitable but generally makes sense that would be in favor of the most profitable. Saying AI has nothing to do with this sounds like either tunnel vision from an ignorant or biased standpoint, or irresponsible wannabe-tech bro garbo speech, either way is just refusing to put two and two together. I am not used to seeing your logic trip like that, it doesn't read like you. Did you yourself get that point from somewhere else?

Like, you know what I mean - if something is a correlation, calling it 'just a correlation' isn't going to invalidate it if someone doesn't like it. I promise not everybody is this dumb, that's just someone's brains on Elon.

I do concur in one regard: AI does factor in with hardware prices having become an issue affecting Xbox's profits.

However I do disagree heavily that the problem is AI focus or pure greed within Microsoft, and this is what the video is implying. From the official statements, the changes are a result of bad margins over multiple years, resulting from following the Gamepass strategy of broadening the portfolio with a large variety of games and buying up many different studios.

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Our business today is not healthy. We are operating at margins that are 3-10x lower than comparable platform and publishing businesses. We entered Gen 9 with a smaller install base and a higher cost structure. To grow, we bet on Game Pass, multi-platform, and a broader portfolio of content. While those businesses have created meaningful value, they did not grow at the pace we expected. As that happened, our core business weakened, and we added more teams, more investment, and more time, hoping for a better outcome. And now the industry is facing the most severe hardware crisis in its history. We must reset XBOX.

https://news.xbox.co...resetting-xbox/

The idea that studios are being cut down to support AI in other areas of Microsoft in my view doesn't make sense, since Microsoft already announced half a year ago that they would be scaling back Copilot, which is their AI focus project. They don't seem to be very confident in this branch anymore: https://tech.yahoo.c...-144521568.html

The games industry *is* very profitable. If things were going well here, profits in the game industry branch could be used to prop up the AI business, which is very likely making losses in hopes of later profits (similar to what they hoped from Gamepass!). But making cuts in this area to me only makes sense if things have been going really badly for Xbox in particular. With games such as Dark Ages and Starfield, instead of releasing sales numbers, they instead focused on and promoted raw player counts. Releasing sales numbers would likely have been unimpressive given that these games released Day 1 on Gamepass, with many people likely not purchasing them in favor of using the cheaper subscription service. And it's difficult to assign the subscription income to any singular game.

Are they restructuring so that they can refocus on AI assisted development within games, replacing developers with AI? Officially, this was also denied:

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As monetization and AI evolve and influence this future, we will not chase short-term efficiency or flood our ecosystem with soulless AI slop. Games are and always will be art, crafted by humans, and created with the most innovative technology provided by us.

https://blogs.micros...crosoft-gaming/

Sure, you can doubt these statements -- we don't have the objective data of what's really going on with Xbox. But my view isn't based entirely on speculation and assumption.

This post has been edited by Doom64hunter: 30 July 2026 - 05:49 AM

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User is online   ck3D 

#4896

Thanks for clarifying, I see your angle now, and this:

View PostDoom64hunter, on 30 July 2026 - 05:48 AM, said:

I do concur in one regard: AI does factor in with hardware prices having become an issue affecting Xbox's profits.

(...)

Sure, you can doubt these statements -- we don't have the objective data of what's really going on with Xbox. But my view isn't based entirely on speculation and assumption.



is fair.

Reason why I am wary of microanalytics is there is no such thing as fragmentation within the dynamic of one singular (... functional) group, regardless of how many specialized departments one would comprise in order to function, that is just logistical detail in the larger scope of things, regardless of how crucial to the operation. Way too often, dissociating numbers like this is used as a logical diversion and distraction from the reality that they serve one full composition, so naturally I am skeptical when I see it.

Zero word that is emitted by corporate, I trust, for I know how they operate.

Greed being the source of a lot of bad things actually is not just observable from more or less oriented point of views but fully backed by neuroscience if you ever wondered. See Henri Laborit's works if curious, but it is not so complicated. The brain's sole purpose is to keep maintaing itself (and its host organism) with constant biological rebalancing all the while subject to an environment that absolutely bombards the accompanying nervous system with stimuli, non stop (which in simple words is what shapes a person). Unless it has been through enough experiences to realize how it is an error, if there is anything it can find that may help said balancing in any way (influence, money, land, resources, leisure, other people), it will claim it regardless of logic and ethics. Being constant, permanent, and crucial incentive (like existential tinnitus), everybody's life to a degree revolves around taming that and ideally refining it enough to turn it into a harmless strength. If anything, because being reasonable and responsible with it is the only way it can work as the only body to possibly hurt would be our own through the collective.

This post has been edited by ck3D: 30 July 2026 - 07:00 AM

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User is offline   Player Lin 

#4897

Midnight's videos always be like so many guessing shit(that one was NOT the first one) in it so I never really watched his videos when someone posted/suggested them... :unsure:

I still in doubt about M$ but will wait and see how they'll going in future...and the current head of XBox was from AI department won't help any for sure... :P
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User is offline   Phredreeke 

#4898

View PostDoom64hunter, on 30 July 2026 - 05:48 AM, said:

But making cuts in this area to me only makes sense if things have been going really badly for Xbox in particular. With games such as Dark Ages and Starfield, instead of releasing sales numbers, they instead focused on and promoted raw player counts. Releasing sales numbers would likely have been unimpressive given that these games released Day 1 on Gamepass, with many people likely not purchasing them in favor of using the cheaper subscription service. And it's difficult to assign the subscription income to any singular game.


It's ironic that Microsoft's best shot at profiting on Bethesda games is people buying them on rival consoles.
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