Hank, on 13 May 2023 - 08:03 PM, said:
Yeah, I watched the video. But, I’m also a business guy, surrounded by creative people (Architects, Interior Decorators, Programmers … all day long) and followed it from this perspective, and simply reiterated the bottom line.
The video had some concrete suggestions. If it helps creative people to win, then it will, but I can't recommended either. I'm not creative, and could not relate.
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I'm in a similar position being constantly surrounded by and working with and for creatives of many types (but not limited to creatives, I deal with businesses from mom and pop shops to corporations quite a bit; been swearing the latter off over the years though, too much absurd excess and too many contradictions). My general impression is creating value and selling value are two completely different skill sets, but they're not exactly mutually exclusive either, it's possible and I would say encouraged for one to try and develop both. From any perspective (regardless of if more business- or artistic-minded) I think that's important for better (and more efficient) communication when joining forces, someone at ease with business ideally should be able to understand the aspirations an author has with their output as to efficiently curate it in a way that doesn't oppress the creative, and the creative ideally should be aware of economic, competitive and production realities as to know how to best articulate their power in their designs to match their client's expectations and really grasp the direction (in such a context, that is). The less rupture the less chaos and the less time absurdly wasted for both parties involved, potentially. That is also why it's typical for artists to really struggle with corporate work: there is little to no humane feedback but the importance of the bottom line with (usually) few instructions or no real manual. From a business perspective that might result in behaviors that can seem zany or egoistic (which is not helped by the occasional larger-than-life persona), but that just means communication is failing to meet somewhere.
In cooperation in general by essence it's important for both parties to be able to understand one another. I'm not sure of what to think whenever I hear someone cling to just 'one side' (whichever one it is), that usually just means they refuse to get better and thus their enterprise to succeed (long term at least), and those profiles never really make for the best associates if one is more sincere in their work than that. (I'm not refering to you personally at all here, by the way, it's a general comment; specifying because it could be easy to tie back to some things you've expressed if someone somehow chooses to disregard that you've watched the video and are discussing the topic, so of course you're interested or at least curious.)