[Sangman]

Did you know: Duke Nukem 3D also had a nude patch? Discuss!

[thelegend4ever]

What killed DNF was the bullshit hype along with the broken promises by 3D Realms, and to an extent, Gearbox (though the linear level design didn't help too much either). Duke Nukem, starting from 3D, was always about hardcore shooting, explosives, good level design, and women. Problem with DNF is that they "tried" to push the envelope again like they did with 3D, but in the end failed miserably and made Duke the fucking laughing stock in gaming. I still think The Hive is one of the worst concepts/levels in any game to date. I actually didn't mind the Titty City level, and thought it was an ok break from shooting shit and just interact with things with clunky controls (let's face it, DNF would've been a much shorter campaign if you just constantly shot things like 3D, and in today's games, many find that unacceptable). I will say this, the women are one of the most annoying things I've dealt with in any game. Their dialogue is just...retarded and it makes you wonder if Duke has any standards at all when it comes to them. And I don't mind Duke saying "fuck", because he always struck me as a character who'd say it every chance he'd get.

As for the nude patch, eh, doesn't effect gameplay so it shouldn't really matter at all IMO.

[Kathy]

 thelegend4ever, on 25 March 2012 - 10:45 AM, said:

Duke Nukem, starting from 3D, was always about hardcore shooting, explosives, good level design, and women.

Yeah, starting from Duke3d... and ending on Duke3d.

[thelegend4ever]

 Burnett, on 25 March 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Yeah, starting from Duke3d... and ending on Duke3d.

Zero Hour says hi.

[Jimmy]

 Burnett, on 24 March 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:

He probably meant overly serious reaction to this mod.

I doubt it was all an artistic choice. In 1996 having bare tits in a game would have been over the line. There aren't many games even today to show them.

My first post in this thread was the first 'negative' reaction, and that was a joke.

It was so close to being over the line. DNF just felt hokey like "Lets just add some tits to be badass and appeal to teenagers." It's so evident from the way the game was marketed that sexual content was some sort of priority to them. The stripper in Duke3D could pretty much be considered an easter egg during the games early years. It was a level of interactivity unheard of. Once again, it was funny, and felt more like something the developers did to get a few kicks, not to be 'cool'.

[rasmus thorup]

Another thread killed because some guys can't just ignore it if they don't like it.

And captain awesome. You should post in big bold letters that you are just joking because it's hard to see.

[Jimmy]

It's not my fault your sense of humor was defined by assholes like Dane Cook, where it has to be big and loud to be funny.

[Ronin]

 rasmus thorup, on 25 March 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

Another thread killed because some guys can't just ignore it if they don't like it.

And captain awesome. You should post in big bold letters that you are just joking because it's hard to see.

I don't see how the thread is killed, some people like that kind of stuff and think its essential, others don't. If we all agreed there would be no point of a discussion and we are on a forum so theres not much else to do but discuss these matters. Duke Nukem games mean many things to differant people. While I agree I come across as hot headed about the subject, there is a reason, I know the developers look at this site to check on fans wants and not so I don't want them thinking we are all obsessed with polygon pussys and that some of us want a richer experience from a Duke game, to that end I will say my piece, because a balance is needed. Who knows what kind of Duke game we will get next if the devs think that the sex aspect is still overly important..same again but with more ass?. Maybe I'm too old and wary to appreciate what I consider to be stupid shit.

[Honza]

could anyone just upload it to a file sharing website? thanks.

[xMobilemux]

 Honza, on 25 March 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

could anyone just upload it to a file sharing website? thanks.

Here you go
http://www.mediafire...b2az5k2cfsfgz4g
You'll need Texmod for it and also whenever I use it now (since all these patches affected the programming for mods) it will take a long while to start DNF, but it still works.

Download it fast and play it quickly so you dont have to listen to another load of "This ruined DNF even more" rants

[Mikko]

 Ripemanewone, on 24 March 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

I think, that if they didn't have the sex stuff to fall back on they would have had to concentrate on making more interesting things to carry the game. Obviously it wasn't just the sex stuff that killed DNF, but to me it did damage the game massively, I hated every scene with the twins and the other horny women just annoyed me. I hated the stripper level you liked it, to me it was pointless and felt shoe horned in just to add more sex to the game and the interactivity was too staged, the interactivity have been like that in the other levels and not "heres the interactive level", it was just a set piece. I don't want adult content removed from a future Duke game but I also don't want a game that seems to be made just to show off this kind of stuff, we both have very differant opinions of what is great about a Duke game.

Uh, I loved the twins and fetching dildoes at the strip club. I don't understand how any straight male can be bothered by such beautiful sexual beings.
The fact is that they did try to implement plenty of "interesting things to carry the game" but rather than being innovative, they ended up aping other games. There's no reason to assume that this was in any way a result of the team focusing too much on adult content, pretty much the only area where the game dared to be Duke rather than an imitation of Half-Life 2 or Call of Duty. Recent interviews have given a pretty good idea of what went wrong and nothing indicates adult content was added at the expense of quality in other parts. And if this is so, then toning down adult content (ceteris paribus) would've made the game much, much worse.

And lol @ Awesome's ridiculous idea that the titty-tassels were an "edgy" design choice.

[Hank]

 Wesker500, on 26 March 2012 - 02:12 AM, said:

Here you go
http://www.mediafire...b2az5k2cfsfgz4g

blocked for violation of term of service?

[Fox]

It may be because of pornographic material.

[Sangman]

 Captain Awesome, on 25 March 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:

The stripper in Duke3D could pretty much be considered an easter egg during the games early years.

Not really... It's in plain sight and I'm sure everyone tried pressing space on them first. I would consider the booby showing statues in Raw Meat more of an easter egg than the strippers.

 Captain Awesome, on 25 March 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

It's not my fault your sense of humor was defined by assholes like Dane Cook, where it has to be big and loud to be funny.

That or maybe you're just not very funny...

[thelegend4ever]

Let's not forget that whenever you'd beat Duke 3D or Time To Kill, you'd hear Duke fucking a woman pretty hardcore (esp in TTT). So sex was always kinda a factor in Duke Nukem, but DNF just went a little too far by trying to look "hip". We all know how that turned out.

[Jimmy]

 Mikko_Sandt, on 26 March 2012 - 04:33 AM, said:

Uh, I loved the twins and fetching dildoes at the strip club. I don't understand how any straight male can be bothered by such beautiful sexual beings.

This is where I'm done with this thread. It's a video game. They're not real, they're not beings.

[Mikko]

Au revoir!

[xMobilemux]

 Hank, on 26 March 2012 - 04:36 AM, said:

blocked for violation of term of service?

OK I uploaded it on my DeviantART: http://wesker500.dev...Patch-292462881

The download option is in the upper right corner I hope everyone who didnt take this seriously enjoys this

[Ronin]

 Wesker500, on 26 March 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:

The download option is in the upper right corner I hope everyone who didnt take this seriously enjoys this

After looking at your Deviantart uploads it would appear that you do indeed take this kind of stuff very seriously. I can't for a minute pretend that I understand that kind of obsession with naked game characters and frankly its kind of creeps me out. But each to their own I guess.

[Hank]

I have not figured out the Texmod.exe stuff, so I can't judge it yet. Still I am happy DNF is being modded and I have a copy of it.

b.t.w. The original Duke 3D has some disturbing depictions of women. Real life is disturbing, this only mirrors our darkest fears, methinks, about our daughters, wifes, girl friends etc. One can see this in movies and read it in books; to find it in video games is not really surprising.

[X-Vector]

 Sangman, on 26 March 2012 - 08:03 AM, said:

Not really... It's in plain sight and I'm sure everyone tried pressing space on them first. I would consider the booby showing statues in Raw Meat more of an easter egg than the strippers.

It's pretty difficult to recall my initial reaction to the strippers since it was over fifteen years ago that I played Duke3D for the first time, but I believe that their interactivity being "in plain sight" may say something about a time in gaming where handholding wasn't as ubiquitous as it is now.
Back in the mid-nineties, we were used to trying out the "use" button for effect, with the only hint being a darkened section of wall or a different/misaligned texture - if there was any hint at all.
Nowadays, not only does every game out there pop up an interactivity icon on screen, it actually tells the player what button on the controller or keyboard to press and continues to do so until the credits roll.

Apparently, today's gamer is too dense to:
1. Figure out that doors, keypads, gun emplacements and computers are items that can be interacted with.
2. Recall what button is bound to the "use" function.
3. Understand that the process of pressing "E" or "X" to open a door is not a one time deal.

It speaks volumes about DNF that it humbly conformed to this insulting trend, when the original premise of the game was the exact opposite; let the player experiment and discover interactivity in content that's just windowdressing in competing titles.

[LkMax]

 Ripemanewone, on 26 March 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

After looking at your Deviantart uploads it would appear that you do indeed take this kind of stuff very seriously. I can't for a minute pretend that I understand that kind of obsession with naked game characters and frankly its kind of creeps me out. But each to their own I guess.

Have you ever heard of hentai and sh*t like that?
There's things miles worse than a simple nude patch out there - and even here somewhere there's a nude patch for Duke 3D with pixelated babes and it's square tits and all ( LOL ). You shouldn't be surprised by this mod. overreaction at its finest. lol

[Kathy]

 Hank, on 26 March 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

One can see this in movies and read it in books; to find it in video games is not really surprising.

Yet you can't deny that mainstream video games try far less visual erotic/sexual stuff than movies. It's not even close. Mainly because video games are still perceived as being "for kids". Not that having boobs in a game would necessary make it more "mature", but sex in underwear can't be taken seriously either.

 X-Vector, on 27 March 2012 - 01:11 AM, said:

it actually tells the player what button on the controller or keyboard to press and continues to do so until the credits roll.

That's if you're lucky. Some credits have a hint on what button to use to skip them.

[rasmus thorup]

 Sangman, on 26 March 2012 - 08:03 AM, said:

Not really... It's in plain sight and I'm sure everyone tried pressing space on them first. I would consider the booby showing statues in Raw Meat more of an easter egg than the strippers.

Yea, it's natural that strippers show some boobs. But statues? That's why i agree on you that it's an easter, like the blimp. You weren't actually supposed to try pressing space on a statue and expect some boobs.

[Hank]

 Burnett, on 27 March 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

Yet you can't deny that mainstream video games try far less visual erotic/sexual stuff than movies. It's not even close. Mainly because video games are still perceived as being "for kids". Not that having boobs in a game would necessary make it more "mature", but sex in underwear can't be taken seriously either.

Not sure how I got into this one. I did not imply that the erotic or other ambient game content is at the level of movies and books, only that it would (should) be a natural inclusion while the game industry is growing.

I think, the target age is between 16 to 24, it's a bit complex to decipher the numbers, but if you do some bean counting, this is the range, based on the link here
https://www.esrb.org...-statistics.jsp
either way not just for kids anymore.
b.t.w. My biggest dilemma about this topic right now is that I still can't work this on DNF, so my verdict is actually still open.

[BugsBunny]

Where is the download link for the mod ?

EDIT : Got it from the devianart link .

[Come On And Slam]

Christ you guys are such drama queens. How the fuck is it that a topic for a nude patch got to talking about how simple and stupid new games are? Holy shit.

On topic, I think this mod has good intentions, but there's already enough nude in the game, really. And I do enjoy a nice nude patch, but I find it hard to enjoy a girls vagina while fucking aliens are tentacle raping them and exploding their stomachs... Just me, though

[Kathy]

 Slippy_Pig, on 05 April 2012 - 08:11 PM, said:

I find it hard to enjoy a girls vagina while fucking aliens are tentacle raping them

Whoa...

[OpenMaw]

 Fox, on 23 March 2012 - 10:50 PM, said:

Aren't you taking this a little too serious? It's just a nude patch, probably any popular game has a nude patch of sort.

Yes, many do. Many games that have little to no nudity to begin with get those kinds of patches.

Duke Nukem Forever is already crammed wall-to-wall with sex. Why, exactly, does it need more?

Then again I said "F*ck this game" last year. Wish I did not have to, either. I want to love this game, but everything about it just seems to piss me off.

It's also just, very saddening to me that ONE MOD we can get is an XXX patch. That's sad to me. I was so looking forward to seeing what Duke fans could do with Duke Forever... and really, this is it. This is all fans can do. We've been thrown out of our own party on this one, folks.

[Martin]

I don't get why anyone even wants to mod DNF. The game is shit, the engine is shit. Mod something better like a UE3 or CE3 game. If you must mod for Duke, mod Duke 3D because 1] The game is great, and 2] You can do interesting things in a 2.5D engine.