[ReaperMan]

Sangman, on 28 January 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

As long as I can understand what people write I honestly don't give two shits about grammar on an internet forum. Of course I will take people with bad grammar less seriously when they're trying to be, well, serious, but who cares. For real life stuff this is another issue though

I agree with you %100, which is kinda rare.

[Kathy]

Sangman, on 28 January 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

For real life stuff this is another issue though

Why?

Why do always people treat internet like it's something exclusive from real life? If I know personally people I write to on internet forums/chats/whatever then it is pretty much a real life too.

[Sangman]

I look at it this way. To me, chatting or posting on an internet forum is like sitting in a bar with people. (yes I know I'm contradicting myself cause I said "real-life stuff is another issue" but shush) If people spoke in a dialect there (an understandable one of course) I would not mind that at all. That's kindof the equivalent of having imperfect grammar on a forum.

On the other hand in a more official context I would say using the formal version of your language is a must and on the internet I'd compare that to articles, serious discussions and whatnot. It's an imperfect comparison of course but I suppose you understand what I'm getting at now If not you're probably not the kind of guy I'd hang out with at a bar

[Kathy]

What do you mean by "more official context"?

Either way, I don't go to bars.

[Sangman]

Helel, on 29 January 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

What do you mean by "more official context"?

Let's say at the workplace (depending on where you work), or when you're at some government institution, talking to teachers, stuff like that.

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Either way, I don't go to bars.

Yeah uh who gives a fuck? That wasn't the point of my argument at all. But good to know, I guess?

[Kathy]

Sangman, on 29 January 2012 - 08:53 AM, said:

Let's say at the workplace (depending on where you work), or when you're at some government institution, talking to teachers, stuff like that.

I think it's pretty obvious you should use proper language in those formal circumstances. It seems, you just used improper phrase calling it "real life" since I thought you were talking exactly about conversations in real life with relatives, friends etc.

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Yeah uh who gives a fuck? That wasn't the point of my argument at all.

I know... I was joking, buddy.

[Mikko]

There are more important things than grammar when you're debating an issue (which, of course, should be no excuse for poor grammar) but some things do annoy me like the use of "would of" instead of "would have/would've". I don't mind intentional stuff like "cuz".

[Mia Max]

Back in times our english teacher tried to teach us antiquated english.
He draw a time line on the blackboard and tried to explain us how to use present perfect and past perfect and future perfect -tense.
Ehm, I will have been thinking about writing this stupid sentence until I will have pressed the 'Post' button.

[Mia Max]

Yeah, that english teacher was funny.
Once we manipulated the radio and he was trying to figure out why it didn't work while we kept saying that he will have to raise the electric cable to enable the electricity to flow down the cable to the radio.

[Jimmy]

I never learned much in high school, so I spent a lot of time teaching myself shit out of the textbooks just so I could tell if my teachers were full of shit or not. I spent a lot of time in the English books, because my English teacher was a total clueless twat. It's a very intricate language, and I support all sorts of deviations EXCEPT for obvious stupidities such as 'texting speak.' I consider ain't and y'all to be words because they make sense. In fact, I'm pretty sure in Spanish there is a 'formal' conjugation for a form of y'all. I really like language, and I try to keep on top of it. Unfortunately, I'm not too good at other languages so I just look up English for the most part. Though I find German would probably be the easiest for me to grasp (likely because it has similar structure to English.)

Also, on the 'Great Hate Debate.' I have utter disdain for people who say "hater" all the time as well. In fact, I hate hate-haters. Hate is great, and so is criticism. More people should use both well. And no, racists don't count as using it well.

[Sangman]

Wolfe, on 29 January 2012 - 12:16 PM, said:

Though I find German would probably be the easiest for me to grasp (likely because it has similar structure to English).

This is actually the case for most other European languages too.

[Micky C]

The thing about german is that it's got three genders, and it usually does some funny things when multiple verbs are present. On the other hand, with a lot of other european languages, you at least have a 50/50 chance of guessing the right gender

[Hank]

Micky C, on 29 January 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

The thing about german is that it's got three genders, and it usually does some funny things when multiple verbs are present. On the other hand, with a lot of other european languages, you at least have a 50/50 chance of guessing the right gender

The German language has rules and once you understand them, you are done. English has rules too but also a shit load of exception. One reason for it is, I guess, that it is used in different countries.
http://www.englishgr...sitions-part-2/ is a small sample of it.
Coming out of the closet now; I dislike the language because frankly, I am too stupid to get a grip on it, but for as long my posts are tolerated .... who cares.

[Martin]

Mia Max, on 28 January 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

There have been only a few stuoid changes, like trible 'sss' and none use of 'ß' anymore (I miß you dear sharp s )
And we got a new word. 'Sitt' Nobody uses it, but you can say it when you have drunk enough.
In school time my teacher said, it would be better to kill the stupid upper and lower case.
Arrr, I love english. Just 'I' and names to write in upper case.

Germans don't use ß any more? That was your most iconic alphabet character! I remember being extremely confused about all the upper-lower case things, and all that masculine/feminine/neuter stuff. Perhaps because English is so simple (is it?), I'm ill-equipped to learn a more complicated language.

[Jimmy]

Sangman, on 29 January 2012 - 01:31 PM, said:

This is actually the case for most other European languages too.

You're right, actually. (English also has borrowed quite a few German words, and a few French on occasion, as well as some Latin and other stuff here and there.) I think English is probably the most difficult language to learn because it is so vast and flexible, and will just nab other words and phrases from other languages just to do it.

I guess it also helps that I have a German friend I always joke in German with, and that I also have a hard-on for Nazis. I played way too much Wolfenstein.

[Kyanos]

In Canada we are taught French from grades 4 to 9 as a prerequisite, being a bi-lingual country and all. I hated it at the time, although I took the extra 3 years of it to grade 12. It was a bird course. Anyways, I now have come to appreciate my background in French as it has helped me many times over the years.
I would have to agree that for a second language, English would have to be one of the more difficult to learn for most. We can speak very odd at times if you stop to think about it.

[Mr.Deviance]

Wolfe, on 29 January 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

You're right, actually. (English also has borrowed quite a few German words, and a few French on occasion, as well as some Latin and other stuff here and there.) I think English is probably the most difficult language to learn because it is so vast and flexible, and will just nab other words and phrases from other languages just to do it.

I guess it also helps that I have a German friend I always joke in German with, and that I also have a hard-on for Nazis. I played way too much Wolfenstein.

I also have german internet friends since many years, some with which I talk on a daily basis and some with which I share lots of ideas but with which I don't talk so much.
In my time since I've talked to all types of foreigners, I've learned one (I would say) important thing about german friends.
You see, as much as you will share opinions with them and as much as you will send haha's back and forth and connect with them at an irony level, you will not cease to disappoint them by bringing nazi themes into a debate sooner or later.
The absolute most common and dull thing that a german person is subjected to on a daily basis, is having to hear nazi debates related to him, even if not meant to insult him.
Take my advice and stop mentioning nazis and hitler to germans, even though you might think they taste the jokes and even though they lol at them, unless you want to annoy them and set yourself up for a future where they will slowly start to move on past you.
I've been there and I know that there is nothing more dull and obnoxious and more stereotypically lame than making nazi jokes with german people.
I found it awesome but they obviously didn't. And seeing how many people think that it's a good idea to start a friendship with a german online by entering the nazi hitler debates, is just more proof that germans can only be thought about in nazi terms, which is something that deeply annoys most of them.
Having an entire population branded by an army faction that ceased it's existence many years ago, is something that I would probably hate too.

[Jimmy]

Uhh... actually, he's a Real Life™ friend. Foreign exchange student. And he thinks Jew jokes are funny. He brought it up first. The first thing I ever said to him was "Ich bin Gott!" (I am God.) and he thought that was great.

[Sangman]

I am going to be a foreign exchange student IN Germany for the next 4 months (I am leaving in 2 weeks). I'll let you know about my findings. :V

[LeoD]

Sangman, on 29 January 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

I am going to be a foreign exchange student IN Germany for the next 4 months (I am leaving in 2 weeks). I'll let you know about my findings. :V

Don't mention the war!

[Sangman]

You're one hilarious dude.

[LeoD]

Sangman, on 29 January 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

You're one hilarious dude.

http://en.wikipedia....iki/The_Germans

Where are you going to?

[Martin]

[The Commander]

If im posting frm my android im going 2 post like i am txtn.

[Sangman]

LeoD, on 29 January 2012 - 05:40 PM, said:

http://en.wikipedia....iki/The_Germans

No shit, thanks for the education!

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Where are you going to?

Eastern Germany (a place near Leipzig and Halle)

[Kathy]

Hello comrade!

[LeoD]

Sangman, on 30 January 2012 - 02:32 AM, said:

Eastern Germany (a place near Leipzig and Halle)

Haven't been there for ages. Have a nice stay.

[Kathy]

Oops, I read the question like "where are you from?". He's not a comrade afterall.

[Hank]

Helel, on 30 January 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:

Oops, I read the question like "where are you from?". He's not a comrade afterall.

My mom grew up in Halle. Shocking to think of her as a teenager, a long time ago. I grew up in Frankfurt a.M. , but my roots are partly in Halle. I will never post private photos, but this place (attachment) is close to my heart.

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[Tetsuo]

I'm reminded of this quote from Red Dwarf:

"After intensive investigation (comma) of the markings on the alien pod (comma) it has become clear (comma) to me (comma) that we are dealing (comma) with a species of awesome intellect (colon)."
"Good. Perhaps they might be able to give you a hand with your punctuation."