[High Treason]

Windows NT and Operating Systems that were based on it (2K/XP/Vista/Seven) have their own boot loader that does not use MS-DOS, the command prompt in those systems is run under NTVDM (NT Virtual DOS Machine) and so it is not true DOS, it also suffers from many timing issues, most noticable is if you play sounds through the internal buzzer for a while as they become distorted.

On the other hand, I also doubt they will ever kill the actual command prompt as Programmers/Network Technicians will always use the command line, it is also good if you have no working GUI and gives easy access to a very simple scripting system (Batch Files).

If you ever tried to open the MSDOS.SYS file under Windows 95/98/ME (I like Windows ME ) there is an option to stop the system even loading Windows ('BootGui=0' IIRC among other cool tweaks) thus loading MS-DOS and requiring you to type WIN to load Windows manually as was the case before those Operating Systems. Interestingly the boot menu used by the Start-Up disk can be used in Config.Sys to create infinite multiple configurations which is useful for compatibility with different software if you know how to add the correct IF statements to AutoExec.bat.

EDIT: Oh, and Chips Challenge is awesome, I can confirm it is a Win16 game as it came on my first computer among a load of other cool games, most of which I have not seen elsewhere and I am unable to copy from the drive... Anybody here ever played Pipe Dream?

[MusicallyInspired]

Micky C, on Jan 28 2011, 06:41 AM, said:

Wow hearing about this brings back so many memories... although I can't believe I'm actually old enough to have played them. I'm only 17, and I only caught the extreme tail end of DOS back with a Windows 3.11 computer that could also run MS DOS which was needed for some programs at the time.

Win3.11 runs on top of MS DOS so it didn't "also run MS DOS" it WAS MS DOS.

[Master Fibbles]

HT, I think I've heard of Pipe Dream...is that the one where you were a plumber (for all intents and purposes) and you had to direct the flow of water or something from Point A to Point B?

I'm not sure I remember Chip's Challenge. I'm going to have to sit down and find some of these. Truth be told, I think SkiFree would be a better use of my time than Minesweeper.

[Hank]

That would be a pipe nightmare.

I've got now a huge grammar book. Now the next step is to actually read all that. - Me posting proper English and well understood posts – that too would be considered a Pipe Dream. + correct spelling.

[High Treason]

@Mr.Flibble; Yeah, that's the Pipe Dream game I am thinking of, as for Chip's Challenge, it's a top=down view and you basically have to collect computer chips and solve simple puzzles, it's surprisingly good, though I have only beat Level 11 once (though I haven't tried in years).

That IBM has loads of other crap on it, there's some early version of "Atari Arcade" but it runs quite badly, probably due to having to emulate a TV Set as well as the console when you write Atari VCS emulators and this isn't the kind of task that 15Mhz 80386-SL processors were built for.

[Master Fibbles]

So, Joshua Jackson was the only actor to survive being in The Mighty Ducks...kind of sucks because some of those kids were funny as hell.

[Micky C]

High Treason, on Jan 29 2011, 02:44 AM, said:

Anybody here ever played Pipe Dream?

Is that the one where there's this green slime flowing through some pipes and you have to finish building the pipes in time before it escapes?

Mr.Flibble, on Jan 29 2011, 12:14 PM, said:

So, Joshua Jackson was the only actor to survive being in The Mighty Ducks...kind of sucks because some of those kids were funny as hell.

You mean the rest of the kids weren't ever cast in anything esle? Hope they paid attention in school then.

[Master Fibbles]

They had little roles here or there...there was the one kid from LA who was in D2 and D3 (knuckle puck) but he only did some stuff for Disney/Nickelodean. I think he was in All That or something equally short lived.
For the most part, child actors disappear after they turn 18. The women (if they give in to solicitation) end up on Playboy etc while the guys end up vanishing. There are the few who slip through the cracks: Joshua Jackson (Mighty Ducks and Dawson's Creek) and Shia LeBeouf (Even Stevens) come to mind. You also have Drew Barrymore (ET).

[Micky C]

Or they continue into their 30s playing the role of high schoolers, which must seem fulfilling to them to some degree...

[Master Fibbles]

Yeah...that too. I actually would think that that would suck so much more.
Of course there is always the ones who becomes drug addicts and alcoholics. They are the ones that keep paparazzi going.

[Lunick]

The internet is running out of Ip addreses?

(Just thought I would make a new topic in here)

[Micky C]

Can't they always add more numbers?

[Jeff]

Mr.Flibble, on Jan 28 2011, 07:44 PM, said:

So, Joshua Jackson was the only actor to survive being in The Mighty Ducks...kind of sucks because some of those kids were funny as hell.

First time I've heard of him was from Fringe.

[Kathy]

Mr.Flibble, on Jan 29 2011, 07:41 AM, said:

For the most part, child actors disappear after they turn 18. The women (if they give in to solicitation) end up on Playboy etc while the guys end up vanishing. There are the few who slip through the cracks: Joshua Jackson (Mighty Ducks and Dawson's Creek) and Shia LeBeouf (Even Stevens) come to mind. You also have Drew Barrymore (ET).

Kurt Russell

Micky C, on Jan 29 2011, 12:21 PM, said:

Can't they always add more numbers?

Nope. There are only 2^32 (4+ billion). And that's without substracting various LAN-reserved and special uses addresses.

We need to migrate to IPv6.

[Master Fibbles]

I didn't know Kurt Russell was a child actor. There do seem to be more child actors who survive from the mid 20th century than the more recent stuff. But, then again, you never know. Maybe Macaulay Culkin will make a big debut in some serious movie...(he's in Robot Chicken?)

The ones who become good actors later on either have good parents who keep them from being crazy with that money they make or take years off being stupid and then work their way back into legitimate acting.

[Kathy]

Also, who can we define as a child actor? Those who has acting careers(and thus exposure) before, say, 14?

Jodie Foster is also a fine example.

[Master Fibbles]

I'm thinking (at least in modern age) kids owned by Disney or Nickelodean. So, yeah, people who are in their early teens or younger when they first start acting on TV or movies. The Olsen twins or the Cosby kids; the kids on Sesame Street or Barney, etc.

Like I said, the stars who started as kids in in the early days of cinema and TV, they more or less turned out OK; but we only know about them because they managed to get beyond being a child star. Of course, what ever happened to Beaver or the Brady Bunch kids? Nobody knows...Then there is there was that annoying kid in Temple of Doom.

[Kathy]

Sean Astin turned out ok.
Fred Savage is also have lots of actor/director work. Although, not on the front, it seems.

[Micky C]

It also helps if child actors bypass the teenage roles altogether. I think Heath Ledger did this fairly well, starring in the Patriot at the age of 21, but by then you're stretching the definition of "child star"

[Master Fibbles]

Joshua Jackson was in THE (primetime) Teenage drama of his day (Dawson's Creek). Of course, he did that right after D3 and I think he took some years off probably to go to school or something. He came back as Peter Bishop in Fringe.

[Micky C]

It's 42 degrees Celsius here and there's been a blackout for over one and a half hours. No air conditioning or fans for one and a half hours. It's too hot to even bother doing something to cool down like go to a beach or swimming pool or even take a bath.

[Master Fibbles]

42 Celsius? Serious?! That's like 315 K and 107 F! That is freaking hot.

You Southern Hemisphere people...making us Nothern Hemisphere people jeleous of your summer while we have winter.

By the by, it is close to 0 C here.

[Jeff]

All these blue screens with my new system were caused by a bad RAM stick. Memtest gave me around 10,000 errors within one minute. So I'm going to have to send the kit back and get another one.

[Kathy]

Mr.Flibble, on Jan 31 2011, 07:34 PM, said:

You Southern Hemisphere people...making us Nothern Hemisphere people jeleous of your summer while we have winter.

No, thanks I'd rather have -20C than +40C.

[Micky C]

Lotan, on Feb 1 2011, 05:22 AM, said:

No, thanks I'd rather have -20C than +40C.

Me too. I was perfectly fine jogging in t-shirt and shorts in 0 degrees celcius in france last month.

[Master Fibbles]

Jeff, on Jan 31 2011, 11:56 AM, said:

All these blue screens with my new system were caused by a bad RAM stick. Memtest gave me around 10,000 errors within one minute. So I'm going to have to send the kit back and get another one.

That blows.
And it reminds me that I need to check the connector for one of my hard drives. It disapears on occasion and I have some important stuff there (nothing I don't have backed up, but I'm not inclined to lose a whole hard drive). I hope it isn't dead or dying because I really can't afford to buy a new one and I may be running out of space soon. It is also possible that my bootloader is installed on that HDD (in my Linux partition on that drive).

[Hank]

my trusted faithful just broke down. Australia gets more water. Egypt is getting interesting. And I hate English. Where, were, life, live - four chapters into a grammar book and eight more to go, and apparently it is you that determines the style of writing, and the structure and flow, and 'the dog flew around a sharp corner' is actually legal. - who da fuck invented those rules?

[Jeff]

I guess I'm just going to run on 4 GB for now. I don't really think I need 8 GB.

Funny story as I was coming home from work tonight. So it was almost my stop on the train, so I get up and politely say "excuse me, I need to get off at the next stop" like a normal person should, and this guy yells, "fuck, man!" to me. I guess someone didn't hear me so I said it twice.

Anyways, least I was being polite about it, I know some people start pushing and shoving to try and get off.

[Micky C]

My computer only has 3 GB, which is a bit of a weird number. But my school just gave me an iPad and it's so good! But it makes my iPhone seem so small now

[CruX]

Hank, on Jan 31 2011, 07:57 PM, said:

And I hate English. Where, were, life, live - four chapters into a grammar book and eight more to go, and apparently it is you that determines the style of writing, and the structure and flow, and 'the dog flew around a sharp corner' is actually legal. - who da fuck invented those rules?

You think that's bad?