[Wienerhole]

I get sick and lay in bed for two days and madness ensues.

Hendricks266, on 24 February 2015 - 09:28 AM, said:

Sexual orientation is not a choice.

It's an outcome, an outcome I agree was not chosen by the individual. Dominated by experiences during the pre-verbal imprinting stage through puberty... with a lot of variables going into it. Many if not most of those variables are increasingly under the control of the state (of which mass pop entertainment is an arm of). If these variables weren't so powerful, people wouldn't (couldn't) develop hyper attractions regarding mud, shoes, balloons, hair styles, cartoon characters, etc.

I'm curious and I mean this question in absolute dead seriousness: Where's your limit? Do you have a limit?

Where do you draw the line regarding the teaching in schools of the variety of orientations? Is there any subject matter you might see yourself posting on forums stating "This is not an acceptable sexual subject matter to be taught in grade school"?

I'm not asking about your limit of tolerance of another person as an individual, but your limit regarding state dictated sexual education programs.

Hendricks266, on 24 February 2015 - 09:28 AM, said:

Sexual education isn't sexualization, dumbfuck.

Freshman year of high school. Health Education. Warned about the dangers of huffing paint. Went home and huffed paint... 8 months later in treatment for addiction. The activity had never occurred to me as something worth trying prior to that class. Yes I was an idiot... yes I understood fully it was "dangerous"... which I understood prior to the class. The class demystified the topic and I and my risk seeking teenage self took a chance... and liked it.

Avoided sex until early 20's though, but that had more to do with asexual male sexuality despising imprinting that was dominant in the 80's/90's plus being a trailer park dwelling only child of a single mother who had her own challenges with sexuality. Thus the state/TV was my father figure and they were horribly horribly wrong. It took until my adulthood to realize they weren't wrong on accident. Still recovering from that. The inverse half of the Hegelian Dialectic I experienced in my childhood is fully in play now.

Anyways...

Individuals absolutely should be treated with dignity and respect for who/where they are orientation wise and the factors surrounding their lives. However this can't come at the expense of ignoring when a "movement" is being deliberately co-opted to be the modern equivalent of Bolsheviks being funded by western capitalists to destabilize a rival.

The LGBT and Feminism communities are going to be thrown under the bus when the western power structures decide it's time to put in Conservative/Libertarian puppets. They are being set up and played... all while cheering on their own sacrificial slaughter because they believe the state is their friend. The rumblings of this shift have been audible for a few years now.

The power structure always builds someone up while pushing someone else down specifically to then pull the rug out from under the built up group while quietly supporting the group that has been deliberately provoked and pissed off to the point of being eager to lash out and just needing an excuse. Problem/Reaction/Solution... Rinse/Repeat... .

The mass indoctrination program called public education is one of the premier arms getting kids to see the state as their parent, women seeing the state as their husband, and men seeing the state as their boss.

Read "The Underground History of American Education"... I mean it. Then follow up by researching the variety of threads he brings up... test what he says. Try to prove him wrong. He's not a lightweight and has the credentials and experience to back up what he's pointing out.
http://mhkeehn.tripod.com/ughoae.pdf
https://en.wikipedia...rican_Education
https://en.wikipedia...hn_Taylor_Gatto

Robman --- Dude... you're just forcing the circling of the wagons. Zealotry is exactly what the programming *wants* to provoke out of you because it then evokes the emotional satisfaction, perceived justification, and group solidarity at rejecting you entirely, thus strengthening the grip of the conditioning.

[Hendricks266]

Robman, on 24 February 2015 - 06:03 AM, said:

Nobody likes carrying a dead baby and the body usually naturally aborts a dead fetus.

Until the brain of a fetus begins functioning, it is no more worthy of human rights than the skin cells that become airborne when you brush your arm. Or the other 100 million sperm in the average ejaculation.

At the most conservative estimates, the point in pregnancy at which this happens is exactly where our current laws say abortion is no longer legal.

The topic's persistent presence in American politics is a pronounced symptom of religious dogma's detriment to society.

DustFalcon85, on 24 February 2015 - 06:22 AM, said:

Also waiting for Hendricks226 to move related posts into a new thread*

It's The Post Thread. You don't split The Post Thread.

Also, 266.

[Mblackwell]

Pssh, as if a functioning brain means anything. For me unless it can survive at birth with little assistance (allowing for such things like an incubator and IV) then I'm not really bothered about the child having any rights that the parents don't confer on it.

[Hendricks266]

CharlesT, on 24 February 2015 - 12:27 PM, said:

It's an outcome, an outcome I agree was not chosen by the individual. Dominated by experiences during the pre-verbal imprinting stage through puberty...

Chemical and environmental factors in utero.

CharlesT, on 24 February 2015 - 12:27 PM, said:

I'm curious and I mean this question in absolute dead seriousness: Where's your limit? Do you have a limit?

Everything is OK as long as it is grounded in the concept of consent.

CharlesT, on 24 February 2015 - 12:27 PM, said:

Freshman year of high school. Health Education. Warned about the dangers of huffing paint. Went home and huffed paint... 8 months later in treatment for addiction. The activity had never occurred to me as something worth trying prior to that class. Yes I was an idiot... yes I understood fully it was "dangerous"... which I understood prior to the class. The class demystified the topic and I and my risk seeking teenage self took a chance... and liked it.

You'll need statistics and not personal anecdote for your point to be valid. Sorry man

CharlesT, on 24 February 2015 - 12:27 PM, said:

The mass indoctrination program called public education is one of the premier arms getting kids to see the state as their parent, women seeing the state as their husband, and men seeing the state as their boss.

It teaches societal conventions (civics, government, etc), but parent? boss? husband?

CharlesT, on 24 February 2015 - 12:27 PM, said:

Read "The Underground History of American Education"... I mean it. Then follow up by researching the variety of threads he brings up... test what he says. Try to prove him wrong. He's not a lightweight and has the credentials and experience to back up what he's pointing out.
http://mhkeehn.tripod.com/ughoae.pdf
https://en.wikipedia...rican_Education
https://en.wikipedia...hn_Taylor_Gatto

[Wienerhole]

Hendricks266, on 24 February 2015 - 01:14 PM, said:

Everything is OK as long as it is grounded in the concept of consent.

So public school is a perfectly fine place to teach BDSM, golden showers and shit play, non-intercourse real incest or full intercourse incest roleplay?

Hendricks266, on 24 February 2015 - 01:14 PM, said:

You'll need statistics and not personal anecdote for your point to be valid. Sorry man

Trust me I understand your faith in statistics over actual experience.

Hey... how are our unemployment statistics doing?

I hear the statistics say potato production in sector 6 is up this month.

Hendricks266, on 24 February 2015 - 01:14 PM, said:

It teaches societal conventions (civics, government, etc), but parent? boss? husband?

Yes. The state always seeks to replace those roles.

When my little brother was in middle school, he was going to a school where most of the attendees were on welfare of some sort. He was getting bad grades and my mom was chastising him. He said "Why should I bother? The government will pay for me."

Oh I know... anecdote...

Hendricks266, on 24 February 2015 - 01:14 PM, said:

"Pink Floyd's - The Wall" youtube link...

Read the book dude, you've got the smarts, though the jury is still out on the guts.

[Wienerhole]

MYHOUSE.MAP, on 21 February 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

Whenever I need a dose of high school stoner philosphy, I can always turn to The Post Thread to deliver the goods.

You say that as if the stoners, even high school ones, are historically wrong.

Hank, on 21 February 2015 - 04:13 PM, said:

What is wrong to force people and industry to reduce pollution?

I don't know man... what are the costs? What are the unintended consequences? What will businesses and people be doing in response? How will they adapt their behavior in ways you didn't foresee?

I'm assuming you used legislation to do so... what powers have you now granted that someone later down the road will be able to use in ways you never intended, possibly even counter to your sought after goal?

Without knowing those things the question is a non-starter. Is a cleaner environment better? Sure... you will be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn't desire that. But you are *reacting* to a problem that was created by people solving *other* problems. It's a constant whack-a-mole.

Hank, on 22 February 2015 - 05:50 PM, said:

The one thing they can't do is turn the clock back to 600 years ago, but if they wish to live like they did then, well, they could (can).

Except for that whole being able to properly migrate with the seasons and going where environment leads them due to differences over time (oops... city on primary water source now). Oh and the disruption of the animal migrations/populations. As well as the disruption of the water and flora patterns. I mean sure... they *can* live like they once did the same way a lion *can* live on a safari tour.

[Mblackwell]

I grew up in government subsidized housing, with my mother receiving food stamps and welfare.

If anyone tells you it's a good life they are fucking lying or delusional.

Spoiler

Being poor sucks.

Spoiler

Thank god for public schools, and free lunches for poor people. Otherwise I would have been half starved and never learned to read.

[Wienerhole]

Mblackwell, on 24 February 2015 - 02:23 PM, said:

I grew up in government subsidized housing, with my mother receiving food stamps and welfare.

If anyone tells you it's a good life they are fucking lying or delusional.

Nobody said it's a good life.

Mblackwell, on 24 February 2015 - 02:23 PM, said:

Being poor sucks.
Thank god for public schools, and free lunches for poor people. Otherwise I would have been half starved and never learned to read.

Just don't mind the agenda. Also, they aren't free.

Let's put it another way: How do you feel about a church offering an education and lunches, so long as you adhere to their faith?

This is why it's such a difficult conversation. Is education good? Yes. Is food good? Yes. Ok... we all agree. Now... what are the *hooks* required from the person offering them? What are their long term expectations? What are their goals? Out of the goodness of their own heart? Perhaps. Perhaps not. Have you asked? Do you believe them? Do they have multiple agendas? Do they answer to anyone you don't know about?

The best con-artists offer something of modest value up front in exchange for the bigger payoff later.

Thank god for this bucket of corn... what's that elevated stand over there?

Take what you can get and make the most of it if you can, sure, but at least understand why it's being offered.

Hendricks266, on 24 February 2015 - 01:14 PM, said:

You'll need statistics and not personal anecdote for your point to be valid. Sorry man

You'll need scripture and not personal revelation for your point to be valid. Sorry my son.

[Mblackwell]

Nope, they aren't free. Someone paid for it with their taxes. And now I pay for someone else to get it.

The thing is school might try to make you a drone, but it also teaches you all of the things necessary to break away from it.

[Inspector Lagomorf]

CharlesT, on 24 February 2015 - 02:55 PM, said:

This is why it's such a difficult conversation. Is education good? Yes. Is food good? Yes. Ok... we all agree. Now... what are the *hooks* required from the person offering them? What are their long term expectations? What are their goals? Out of the goodness of their own heart? Perhaps. Perhaps not. Have you asked? Do you believe them? Do they have multiple agendas? Do they answer to anyone you don't know about?

It took me a while to put a finger on it, but I've finally got a grasp; you're really good at not really making any points but nonetheless sounding very thoughtful and agreeable. But maybe that's the point; you're trying to provoke thought and discussion. Certainly more preferable than a rhetorical sledgehammer to the face.

[Kyanos]

Trigger warning, I am going to dump the twelve pedowood threads here.

[Kyanos]

Spoiler

#2: https://archive.today/6ZT61
#3: https://archive.today/aqCds
#4: (Noriega): https://archive.today/0rcYv
#6: https://archive.today/BbWQs
#7: https://archive.today/GIM1h
#8: https://archive.today/JX0mG
#9: https://archive.today/A17E4
#10: https://archive.today/NVd8f
#11: https://archive.today/1OYuC
#12 https://archive.today/6DdOJ

https://archive.today/C7kJa rotherham
https://archive.today/9NldJ satan twins #2

[Mark]

Mblackwell, on 24 February 2015 - 03:28 PM, said:

Nope, they aren't free. Someone paid for it with their taxes. And now I pay for someone else to get it.

The thing is school might try to make you a drone, but it also teaches you all of the things necessary to break away from it.

I don't attend school and have no child in one to give me day by day reports of what goes on in school these days. But judging from what I have seen,read and heard from a variety of sources in and out of the school system I don't feel that kids are being taught what it takes to " break away ", but to conform.

[Mblackwell]

If you're learning scientific method, math, and reading (literacy) those are the only tools you need.

[Kyanos]

Mblackwell, on 24 February 2015 - 05:51 PM, said:

If you're learning scientific method, math, and reading (literacy) those are the only tools you need.

Then why do they teach masturbation?

[DustFalcon85]

[Mark]

^ one of my favorite episodes

Mblackwell, on 24 February 2015 - 05:51 PM, said:

If you're learning scientific method, math, and reading (literacy) those are the only tools you need.

Maybe I'm a little jaded on public schools because of my exposure to bottom of the barrel Milwaukee public school system here. Our proficiency levels and graduation rates are pitiful. I wouldn't even want to post the numbers. What we are churning out does not make for a break away student but a lifelong dependency on Government.

[Robman]

CharlesT, on 24 February 2015 - 12:27 PM, said:

Robman --- Dude... you're just forcing the circling of the wagons. Zealotry is exactly what the programming *wants* to provoke out of you because it then evokes the emotional satisfaction, perceived justification, and group solidarity at rejecting you entirely, thus strengthening the grip of the conditioning.

Going to share a story with you, you tell me what you get out of it :

I was 10 years old, I lived with my mother and stepfather on a large farm, my biological father very much still in the picture yet I didn't live with him.

On the farm we had 2 houses that could be rented, in excess of the actual farmhouse.

2 40yr old brothers rented one of the houses for awhile. They were computer programmers, one of whom raced motocross and I was already into dirtbikes having one of my own.

My biological father had an intensely bad feeling about these 2 fellas while my stepfather and mother insisted they were good people and paid their rent on time.

My father insisted and insisted that they were not good people.

To make a long story short, they were pedophiles. The one with the motocross bike who was trying to identify with me ended up going out one night, put a shotgun to himself and blew a hole in his chest. He knew what he was and couldn't live with it.

His brother, years later ended up getting charged with pedo material and thrown in jail. Long after he had moved out of our residence.

If it wasn't for my father going against the majority, herd mentality. His son(me) would most likely have been an abused statistic.

Let the wagons circle, these people even if they were being sodomized and pillaged side-by-side would still be bickering about whether it's a good thing or not.
These people are incapable of action and the ability to identify evil.

[Robman]

Yes, it appears Charlie is the silky smooth upswing of my sledgehammer. hah

What we are saying and have been saying is not for our own gain, but for the sake of humanity and on an individual level. What do we gain from talking about this? ... Basically.. The saving of the human race.

It's like being on a wall and seeing the army coming, you flail and shout to the people inside only to receive the middle finger as they saunter on their way. Simply because they don't see or hear the army for themselves yet.


Reality being, the army is already through the gates.

[Robman]

Hendricks266, on 24 February 2015 - 09:28 AM, said:

For urinating and producing testosterone for muscle growth, amirite?

A fine example of being young and shortsighted. In fact, most of these "downvoters" seem to be almighty 20 - somethings.

Those attributes of the male reproductive system might be fine for the keeping of 1 generation. Testosterone plays a large number of roles in the body.

Sperm comes out of the same urination hole or urethra. It goes into the vagina and can make a new generation, get it?

By all means though.. you can feel free to not use your sperm rights.

I see you've edited my avatar .. you're such a grown up.

[Mblackwell]

Homosexuals aren't pedophiles. It's a different thing.

[Fox]

Priests are pedophiles.

[Robman]

Many of you are disconnected and disgustingly ignorant, you love not life unto death.

[Robman]

Mblackwell, on 24 February 2015 - 07:24 PM, said:

Homosexuals aren't pedophiles. It's a different thing.

Still hung up on the homo thing eh? .. There's more topics being mentioned.

[Hank]

This reminds me ...

to young for an old fart like me, but ...........

[Robman]

Hey, atleast yer straight and attempt to fight for good morals and an honorable-righteous life and future. upvote.

[Mark]

You're not too old Hank. My dad is 84 and has a hot blonde bombshell girlfriend 27 years old.

[Robman]

Hendricks266, on 24 February 2015 - 09:28 AM, said:

Agriculture has only grown to support your bum ass because of scientific work firing radiation at seeds and seeing what turns out better. Objecting to something you don't understand is sticking your head in the sand. Pull your dick out of the bible.

Agriculture came long before the science lab. You are seriously the dumbest "smart" kid I've ever met.

Pull your dick out of the beaker.

[Mark]

I had to laugh as I just pictured a lot of the conversations in here and what would happen if we were at the bar after 7 or 8 beers.

[The Commander]

Robman, on 24 February 2015 - 03:25 AM, said:

@Commander

I enjoy body on frame constructed vehicles, pushrod motors and solid rear axle + manual transmission. Choosing the right combinations in vehicles will result in noticeable reliability.
I'm not from Australia so I don't even know of a couple of the vehicles you mentioned. Ford does seem to build heavier, more substantial vehicles though.

This is my new car.




3.8L V6.

They are still used by the Police as a Highway Patrol car.