[Wienerhole]

Forge, on 08 January 2015 - 08:57 PM, said:

'course I don't want to be Robbed. I don't take it like a man. And stop calling me Shirley.

Shirley you seem to be confused.
To not take it like a man, is like a cliff not taking it like a wall.

[Wienerhole]

If you haven't seen this movie in full, you haven't been in full. Period.

[Ronin]

Well done to the French Special Forces for taking out those scumbags.

[Sangman]

Well done? 1,000 officers needed to kill 2 guys. 4 hostages dead, 1 of the hostage takers escaped. Don't get me wrong I'm glad it's over with in a way but that is not all what I would call an efficient or even succesful operation.

[Inspector Lagomorf]

Sangman, on 09 January 2015 - 10:52 AM, said:

Well done? 1,000 officers needed to kill 2 guys. 4 hostages dead, 1 of the hostage takers escaped. Don't get me wrong I'm glad it's over with in a way but that is not all what I would call an efficient or even succesful operation.

Reminds me of that scene from Die Hard where the FBI agents are preparing to attack (whom they assume to be) the terrorists on the Nakatomi building rooftop, and they discuss a 25% casualty rate for the hostages due to collateral damage as being "something they can live with". For all of the training, preparation, and sophistication of modern-day counter-terrorist forces, we certainly haven't improved our methods in terms of precision. We define success as being something like "we killed all the bad guys and a few good ones too".

[Ronin]

They got the job that needed to be done done. So what if they had 1000, you think they should have had less and reduce their chances? Those guys put their lives on the line dealing with unreasonable nutters, it could have been so much worse, very easy to criticize from a distance. I'm just happy I don't have to share this planet with those warped scumbags anymore. They should feed the bodies of these zealots to the pigs.

[Kyanos]

Ronan, on 09 January 2015 - 11:32 AM, said:

I'm just happy I don't have to share this planet with those warped scumbags anymore.

Don't go jumping for joy too soon, the system of scumbag warping is still very much alive.

Who needs false flags, homegrown terrorists are so much easier to create than all that we are not us trickery.

1. Move Muslims west.
2. Piss them off.
3. ???
4. Profit.

Come on reimigration.

[Ronin]

Drek, on 09 January 2015 - 12:13 PM, said:

Don't go jumping for joy too soon, the system of scumbag warping is still very much alive.

Who needs false flags, homegrown terrorists are so much easier to create than all that we are not us trickery.

1. Move Muslims west.
2. Piss them off.
3. ???
4. Profit.

Come on reimigration.

Don't assume I think this is the end of it, it's only the beginning things will get a lot worse before they get better. People need to stop taking their religions so seriously, and how dare anyone expect anyone else to be sympathetic to their ancient outdated beliefs and customs.

Religion should not be immune to ridicule and mockery, it's no surprise that when you get people to believe such absurdity that they can then go on to commit absurd acts.

Sometimes I feel like we are living in an incredible time, with such progression in our understanding of the cosmos and reality, but when shit like this happens it reminds me of how many of us are happy to remain in the bronze age.

Religion needs to go away, nothing wrong with believing in a creator but the human created ancient texts are a blight on progress and serve as nothing other than yet another barrier between people as if we didn't have enough already to begin with.

The indoctrinated don't know they are indoctrinated, their fragile ego won't allow them to entertain the thought for a second.

How anyone in this day and age with access to eduction can not realise the only reason they believe in their one true religion is probably because of their geographical location or ancestry is baffling to me. I have a bit of respect for those who choose a religion especially when they get older and wiser because at least they gave it a bit of thought, unlike the rest of the cunting flock.

[Robman]

Ronan, on 09 January 2015 - 01:05 PM, said:

Don't assume I think this is the end of it, it's only the beginning things will get a lot worse before they get better. People need to stop taking their religions so seriously, and how dare anyone expect anyone else to be sympathetic to their ancient outdated beliefs and customs.

Islam is actually quite a bit younger than Christianity.

Ronan, on 09 January 2015 - 01:05 PM, said:

Religion should not be immune to ridicule and mockery, it's no surprise that when you get people to believe such absurdity that they can then go on to commit absurd acts.

Think of the absurd acts you could get people to commit who believe in nothing at all ...

Ronan, on 09 January 2015 - 01:05 PM, said:

Sometimes I feel like we are living in an incredible time, with such progression in our understanding of the cosmos and reality, but when shit like this happens it reminds me of how many of us are happy to remain in the bronze age.

We live in an age of dis-information.

Ronan, on 09 January 2015 - 01:05 PM, said:

How anyone in this day and age with access to eduction can not realise the only reason they believe in their one true religion is probably because of their geographical location or ancestry is baffling to me. I have a bit of respect for those who choose a religion especially when they get older and wiser because at least they gave it a bit of thought, unlike the rest of the cunting flock.

I am one of those who found God without those influences. It's hard to ignore, even just by analyzing your life, nature, the structure of it all.

[Ronin]

Robman, on 09 January 2015 - 01:58 PM, said:

Islam is actually quite a bit younger than Christianity.

I know.

Robman, on 09 January 2015 - 01:58 PM, said:

Think of the absurd acts you could get people to commit who believe in nothing at all ...

Nobody believes in nothing, I believe that I am experiencing a reality and would like to live a peaceful life getting to know reality and enjoying being a self aware animal
and not causing anyone to suffer because of my actions if I can prevent it (unless someone tries to harm me, then all bets are off, even so I am a reasonable man). Why? Because that's obviously the best choice for me and anyone I may have dealing with.

Robman, on 09 January 2015 - 01:58 PM, said:

We live in an age of dis-information.

Of course we do, we aways have done, we are human, that's how some of us behave to get an advantage. We have been living in an age of disinformation since the time men created the first Gods.

Robman, on 09 January 2015 - 01:58 PM, said:

I am one of those who found God without those influences.

I can respect that.

[Robman]

Ronan, on 09 January 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

Nobody believes in nothing, I believe that I am experiencing a reality and would like to live a peaceful life getting to know reality and enjoying being a self aware animal
and not causing anyone to suffer because of my actions if I can prevent it (unless someone tries to harm me, then all bets are off, even so I am a reasonable man). Why? Because that's obviously the best choice for me and anyone I may have dealing with.

Thou shalt not kill , pretty reasonable request.

[Ronin]

Robman, on 09 January 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

Thou shalt not kill

Thoe shalt not allow yourself to be killed.

[Robman]

Ronan, on 09 January 2015 - 02:17 PM, said:

Thoe shalt not allow yourself to be killed.

Saw that coming a mile away, hehe ... it's another muddy topic although if everyone adhered to not killing one another, it would be much less muddy.

Unless we have creatures with tainted DNA ... in that case kill em all ! lol

[Ronin]

Robman, on 09 January 2015 - 02:22 PM, said:

Saw that coming a mile away, hehe ... it's another muddy topic although if everyone adhered to not killing one another, it would be much less muddy.

Unless we have creatures with tainted DNA ... in that case kill em all ! lol

If you found an intruder in your house at night and saw an opening, would you not take him out? He is a blight on society, maybe fight him, beat him up badly, call the police, what if he comes back? Lose the fight, now you're at his mercy.

[Robman]

Exodus 22:1-31

“If a man steals an ox or a sheep, and kills it or sells it, he shall repay five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep. If a thief is found breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no bloodguilt for him, but if the sun has risen on him, there shall be bloodguilt for him. He shall surely pay. If he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. If the stolen beast is found alive in his possession, whether it is an ox or a donkey or a sheep, he shall pay double. “If a man causes a field or vineyard to be grazed over, or lets his beast loose and it feeds in another man's field, he shall make restitution from the best in his own field and in his own vineyard.


Kill him in the act if you must? That's fine. Go seek him and kill him later? That's not fine.


Since I'm in Bible mode, here's one about multiculturalism:

Genesis 11:1-9
The Tower of Babel

11 Now the whole world had one language and a common speech. 2 As people moved eastward,[a] they found a plain in Shinar[b] and settled there.

3 They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. 4 Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”

5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. 6 The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

8 So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. 9 That is why it was called Babel[c]—because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth.

[Ronin]

Robman, on 09 January 2015 - 02:36 PM, said:

Exodus 22:1-31

“If a man steals an ox or a sheep, and kills it or sells it, he shall repay five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep. If a thief is found breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no bloodguilt for him, but if the sun has risen on him, there shall be bloodguilt for him. He shall surely pay. If he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. If the stolen beast is found alive in his possession, whether it is an ox or a donkey or a sheep, he shall pay double. “If a man causes a field or vineyard to be grazed over, or lets his beast loose and it feeds in another man's field, he shall make restitution from the best in his own field and in his own vineyard.


Kill him in the act? That's fine. Go seek him and kill him later? That's not fine.

There are some good lines, no doubt about that. That's just a logical standing. These kind of ideas helped us as a species grow up, they are logical and would probably have come about organically anyway.

These are the words of human men, not an intelligence that gave birth to the universe.

Say if someone rapes your girlfriend and somehow gets off the hook, I would not negatively judge a man who would find and end this someone.

[Robman]

Ronan, on 09 January 2015 - 02:49 PM, said:

There are some good lines, no doubt about that. That's just a logical standing. These kind of ideas helped us as a species grow up, they are logical and would probably have come about organically anyway.

These are the words of human men, not an intelligence that gave birth to the universe.

Say if someone rapes your girlfriend and somehow gets off the hook, I would not negatively judge a man who would find and end this someone.

God is basically saying, don't worry I'll take care of it in it's own time. If he did not meet his end during the act.

The Bible is put forth to be the words of God, scribed by the hand of man. It gives a warning to those who would alter it's words.

These ideas helped us grow, yes. Yet when we advance far enough past those simple things(even though we don't really), such as the teaching to wash your hands under running water.
Metaphors will then work just aswell and apply the same teaching in modern day.
The line "towers to the heavens" sounds pretty present day though doesn't it?
God was in favor of "the court" however, in principle anyway, a form of "judgement by your peers" - the peer must be deemed righteous in the eyes of God and will be held accountable.

For instance : If that Rapist (instead of thief) comes through your window ... yadda yadda.

Sheep, ox? meaning possession.

I've probably started enough arguments on here though, I'm not trying to thump you.. just talking is all.

[Ronin]

Robman, on 09 January 2015 - 03:04 PM, said:

God is basically saying, don't worry I'll take care of it in it's own time. If he did not meet his end during the act.

The Bible is put forth to be the words of God, scribed by the hand of man. It gives a warning to those who would alter it's words.

These ideas helped us grow, yes. Yet when we advance far enough past those simple things, such as the teaching to wash your hands under running water.
Metaphors will then work just aswell and apply the same teaching in modern day.
God was in favor of "the court" however, in principle anyway, a form of "judgement by your peers" - the peer must be deemed righteous in the eyes of God and will be held accountable.

For instance : If that Rapist (instead of thief) comes through your window ... yadda yadda.

Sheep, ox? meaning possession.

I've probably started enough arguments on here though, I'm not trying to thump you.. just talking is all.

Don't worry I don't feel in any way thumped, you give yourself too much credit. You are just talking as am I.

[Robman]

Ronan, on 09 January 2015 - 03:23 PM, said:

you give yourself too much credit.

One never knows through the internet, I've learned that I often incite anger in people when conveying opinions. I haven't dealt with you very much to learn that you may be level-headed... so I covered that base

people are touchy, you know this.

[Kathy]

Robman, on 09 January 2015 - 01:58 PM, said:

Think of the absurd acts you could get people to commit who believe in nothing at all ...

And nothing would change. As history taught us religion means jack shit when people want to enact hideous acts, except when it is used to justify those.

[Ronin]

Robman, on 09 January 2015 - 03:29 PM, said:

One never knows through the internet, I've learned that I often incite anger in people when conveying opinions. I haven't dealt with you very much to learn that you may be level-headed... so I covered that base

people are touchy, you know this.

After your last conversation with High Treason I'm not surprised, he can be a bit grumpy when he hasn't had his Snickers.

If you want to see whether your dealing with a nutter or not you can always check their previous posts on their profile to see what you're dealing with.

Either way I wouldn't let it bother you, sometimes people can have a bad day/life and they take it out online at the first chance. I've done it myself, I try not to though.

[Robman]

Ronan, on 09 January 2015 - 03:36 PM, said:

After your last conversation with High Treason I'm not surprised, he can be a bit grumpy when he hasn't had his Snickers.

For his sake, I refrained from bringing it up, hehe

[Robman]

Kathy, on 09 January 2015 - 03:30 PM, said:

And nothing would change. As history taught us religion means jack shit when people want to enact hideous acts, except when it is used to justify those.

Your trans-humanism is coming Kathy, think of how fast you could read books.

[Ronin]

[Kyanos]

Quote

Senator Nelson. You have a nest of those anarchists yet in New York, have
you not?

Sir. TuNNEY. Yes, Senator ; there are a lot of them there yet. I might say
that five of them were, subsequent to the conviction of Emma Goldman and
Alexander Berkman, apprehended for abusing the President and the Govern-
ment of the United States, and in .Tune they were convicted of violating the
espionage act ; and they were followers of Emma Goldman and were sentenced
to 20 years apiece. That was .lust a few months ago.

Senator Overman. What was Trotsky doing in this country before?

Mr. TuNNEY. He was ahvays talking to the Russians on organization. He
was connected with that ne^^•spape^ publication, the Novymir, and was very
ofteH delivering lectures both to Russians and Germans on anarchy while he
was here — radical socialism. He believed in the overthrow of all governments.

Senator Nelson. He spoke German as well as Russian?

Mr. TuNNEY. Yes; very fluently.

Senator Nelson. What was his nationality?

Mr. TuNNEY. He is a Russian.

Senator Nelson. AVas he a Slav or a German?

Mr. TuNNEY'. He is a Russian.

Senator Nelson. A Russian?

Mr. TuNNEY'. A Russian .Tew ; but they do not believe in any religion, of
course. They are just as much opposed to the Jewish religion as any other.
They call themselves " Internationalists."

[Kyanos]

Now another visitor to our post thread...

[Robman]

Ronan, on 09 January 2015 - 03:36 PM, said:

If you want to see whether your dealing with a nutter or not you can always check their previous posts on their profile to see what you're dealing with.

Views of my "profile" jumped 320 hits since I made that FB thread. If it was 100 I suppose I could find it logical, but 300+? Botz?

[Hendricks266]

I wouldn't be surprised if our user base was big enough to generate that kind of activity on a thread that causes some controversy.

[ReaperMan]

Robman, on 09 January 2015 - 07:33 PM, said:

Views of my "profile" jumped 320 hits since I made that FB thread. If it was 100 I suppose I could find it logical, but 300+? Botz?

They are out to get you Robman.

[Fox]

Boba Fett got really screwed: "As a result, sarlacci have evolved an efficient digestive process, which slowly dissolves prey into nutrients over a period of several thousand years. Victims are kept alive throughout digestion."