[canada4duke]

The 3DR virus infects another developer.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/12/17/max-payn...in-bullet-time/

Looks like the DNF curse is growing.

[Martin]

It's being developed by R*. Therefore, "When it's done" does not translate to 12+ years of development. When all is said and done, it may have had another year in the oven.

[Hank]

http://www.rockstarbase.com/2010/08/21/max...d-this-january/
http://www.rockstarg...yne3/index2.php

I see no 3D Realms virus anywhere - just one web site making a story methinks, it's x-mas and everyone is trying to make some cash. Until right now I did not even know www.joystick knew how to write. http://forums2.duke4...tyle_emoticons/default/tongue.gif

[The Albino Ape]

Maybe they scrapped the Game and now are re-doing it?

[blackharted]

Bam050196, on Dec 19 2010, 03:31 PM, said:

Maybe they scrapped the Game and now are re-doing it?

Wouldn't surprise me.

[Mr.Deviance]

Bam050196, on Dec 19 2010, 03:31 PM, said:

Maybe they scrapped the Game and now are re-doing it?

Actually, I'm almost sure of that. The negative reaction to the bald Max Payne, was so huge that it was felt all around the world.
They probably realized that Max Payne is supposed to be a fucking Noir game not some splinter cell + kane and lynch 2 abomination...
And fucking Max Payne needs to resemble his old self at least a bit... In his bald form, he looks like he had cancer and he died...

[Martin]

Mr.Deviance, on Dec 23 2010, 10:53 PM, said:

And fucking Max Payne needs to resemble his old self at least a bit... In his bald form, he looks like he had cancer and he died...

I found this backlash (the general one, not yours in particular) highly funny, and very stupid. A change of image and fans go snooker-loopy. It's hilarious. It might just be that the storyline called for a change of image. Perhaps Max has been laying low under a different identity, thus necessitating a change of image. This hypothetical scenario would totally explain the shaved head and growth of beard. He was into his thirties or something in the first one, visibly middle-aged in the second one, and now he's even older. This would explain the gained weight and musculature. As for the cancer comment, I'm sure it was just a flippant remark, but you still sound like an absolute idiot.



He's reasonably muscular (obviously not in a 'roid-raging Duke way), has a beer gut, and is developing bitch tits. Quite typical of a man pushing 50 or maybe a into his early 50s. If you actually think cancer patients look like this, maybe you should take a trip down to the cancer wing at your local hospital. Cancer patients in the last stages of the disease look painfully thin (almost skeletal), have sickly skin, and have zero energy to do anything (even having a conversation is a huge effort for them). To you anybody without hair is a cancer patient? For the sake of your ignorance, hair-loss for cancer patients is not due to cancer, but due to the chemotherapy they endure which causes your hair to fall out. All of it. Your eyebrows, your pubes, etc. You can plainly see that Max's baldness is self-inflicted (he has shaved his head, he has not 'gone bald'). Oh, and then there's the full thick beard he has. If Max's baldness was due to chemotherapy, he would not have a beard.

Those kind of flippant remarks are OK on an internet setting, but if you say that kind of thing in real-life within earshot of other people, you may find yourself getting beaten into the ground like a tent peg. You'll have deserved it, too. Merry Christmas!

[Mr.Deviance]

Martin, on Dec 24 2010, 03:29 AM, said:

I found this backlash (the general one, not yours in particular) highly funny, and very stupid. A change of image and fans go snooker-loopy. It's hilarious. It might just be that the storyline called for a change of image. Perhaps Max has been laying low under a different identity, thus necessitating a change of image. This hypothetical scenario would totally explain the shaved head and growth of beard. He was into his thirties or something in the first one, visibly middle-aged in the second one, and now he's even older. This would explain the gained weight and musculature. As for the cancer comment, I'm sure it was just a flippant remark, but you still sound like an absolute idiot.



He's reasonably muscular (obviously not in a 'roid-raging Duke way), has a beer gut, and is developing bitch tits. Quite typical of a man pushing 50 or maybe a into his early 50s. If you actually think cancer patients look like this, maybe you should take a trip down to the cancer wing at your local hospital. Cancer patients in the last stages of the disease look painfully thin (almost skeletal), have sickly skin, and have zero energy to do anything (even having a conversation is a huge effort for them). To you anybody without hair is a cancer patient? For the sake of your ignorance, hair-loss for cancer patients is not due to cancer, but due to the chemotherapy they endure which causes your hair to fall out. All of it. Your eyebrows, your pubes, etc. You can plainly see that Max's baldness is self-inflicted (he has shaved his head, he has not 'gone bald'). Oh, and then there's the full thick beard he has. If Max's baldness was due to chemotherapy, he would not have a beard.

Those kind of flippant remarks are OK on an internet setting, but if you say that kind of thing in real-life within earshot of other people, you may find yourself getting beaten into the ground like a tent peg. You'll have deserved it, too. Merry Christmas!

Way to take my small sarcastic remark seriously mate...
You explain to me about cancer patients and chemotherapy like I'm some 5 year old that hasn't heard or seen this thing before.
I've seen numerous people die of cancer, some of them even being the parents of some of my close mates.
Trust me, I'm in the know and I don't really know why you took my comment seriously and also why do you act like I've joked with cancer towards a real human...
Also, I hoped everybody can notice that I was being sarcastic after I said "he looks like he had cancer and he died" even though he's alive in that picture.

[Martin]

Fair enough, I apologize. What do you think about my other points concerning his new look, etc?

[OpenMaw]

Martin, on Dec 27 2010, 05:12 PM, said:

Fair enough, I apologize. What do you think about my other points concerning his new look, etc?

The point is the character looks nothing like the Max Payne that millions of people came to love. That's not a stupid or a humorous claim. It's the simple truth. That fucker looks nothing like him. Nothing like him at all. Not even in the slightest way to tie him in. He does not look like Max Payne. You can try explain it all day and all night. But Max Payne was clearly defined by the first two games. Thats what the fans of those two games loved. If you're gonna make another, which is highly unnessacary to begin with, keep it in line with what the series was about. There is no sign of the original series within the shots that were released of Max Payne 3. Notta. Redefining everything makes it by definition, not the same damn thing. Its a totally new thing with the title and a few name drops.

[Scott_AW]

Commando Nukem, on Dec 28 2010, 12:52 AM, said:

The point is the character looks nothing like the Max Payne that millions of people came to love. That's not a stupid or a humorous claim. It's the simple truth. That fucker looks nothing like him. Nothing like him at all. Not even in the slightest way to tie him in. He does not look like Max Payne. You can try explain it all day and all night. But Max Payne was clearly defined by the first two games. Thats what the fans of those two games loved. If you're gonna make another, which is highly unnessacary to begin with, keep it in line with what the series was about. There is no sign of the original series within the shots that were released of Max Payne 3. Notta. Redefining everything makes it by definition, not the same damn thing. Its a totally new thing with the title and a few name drops.

I totally agree, at least the movie was somewhat close, but how does he go bald and get a captain's beard? It makes no sense, it's like a kid came up with the redesign and everyone just nodded and went with it...

[Dan_Death]

Unlike Duke, Max actually ages. And with age, people tend to look different and take on different looks. The story of Max Payne 3 is said to take place 12 years after the second one, in a way different environment.

[Carl Winslow]

Commando Nukem, on Dec 28 2010, 03:52 AM, said:

words

And yet everything that Martin said makes perfect sense. You must be having a case of mario-itis here. It's not bad for a character to change and grow old. He wasn't as defined as you might think.

[Martin]

Well yeah, I thought I made sense, but what the fuck do I know? For the record; Max Payne was amazing, Max Payne 2 was a little disappointing, and I'm interested to see what this new one brings. The second game I found wanted to be too much like the first one. It was literally exactly the same, with one or two tweaks, and the storyline wasn't as good. Bullet-time diving no-longer takes any of my meter? Thanks for making the game easier. So I'm glad R* are trying something else with the third game. I wouldn't personally want a repeat of what happened with Max Payne 2.

[Micky C]

What would people want an old max payne to look like?

[Jimmy]

My main issue with the Max Payne series is how less and less people who made the original a great thing are involved. Sam Lake NEEDS to be involved.

[Martin]

Maybe it was one of those things where the actual creators just wanted to do a really gritty one-off thing, and then when it became successful, they found themselves having to create addendums for it, which a lot of artistic people hate doing.

[Jimmy]

I'm not sure. It seems more to me like the publisher tried to push those people away. I'm pretty sure Sam Lake intended it as a series, from what I remember.

[blackharted]

Commando Nukem, on Dec 28 2010, 01:52 AM, said:

The point is the character looks nothing like the Max Payne that millions of people came to love. That's not a stupid or a humorous claim. It's the simple truth. That fucker looks nothing like him. Nothing like him at all. Not even in the slightest way to tie him in. He does not look like Max Payne. You can try explain it all day and all night. But Max Payne was clearly defined by the first two games. Thats what the fans of those two games loved. If you're gonna make another, which is highly unnessacary to begin with, keep it in line with what the series was about. There is no sign of the original series within the shots that were released of Max Payne 3. Notta. Redefining everything makes it by definition, not the same damn thing. Its a totally new thing with the title and a few name drops.

BUMP!

I know I am late but I agree with this.

[Scott_AW]

I still think he just looks like a completely different person. Put a cowboy hat on him while we are at it...

At least changes in Duke's look were minor, his chin is different.

[Laokin]

Commando Nukem, on Dec 28 2010, 12:52 AM, said:

The point is the character looks nothing like the Max Payne that millions of people came to love. That's not a stupid or a humorous claim. It's the simple truth. That fucker looks nothing like him. Nothing like him at all. Not even in the slightest way to tie him in. He does not look like Max Payne. You can try explain it all day and all night. But Max Payne was clearly defined by the first two games. Thats what the fans of those two games loved. If you're gonna make another, which is highly unnessacary to begin with, keep it in line with what the series was about. There is no sign of the original series within the shots that were released of Max Payne 3. Notta. Redefining everything makes it by definition, not the same damn thing. Its a totally new thing with the title and a few name drops.

Well here is where you would be wrong. The face of Max Payne 3 is the same face as Max Payne 2. They used the same real life actor. His face overlays perfectly on the art work. Max Payne 1 had a completely different Max Payne. Max Payne 1 was modeled after the guy who wrote the story, Max Payne 2 -- they hired an actor.

Max Payne 2 & 3 are the same.

Max Payne 1 is the only Max Payne game with a different Max Payne.

With that said, I don't like his new look to much myself, but I can clearly see that it's Max Payne..... I dunno, maybe -- get some glasses?

Oh and PS, the game was supposed to come out in 2008, then had a release date of "Christmas 2009" and then fell off the grid. So they are already 3 years behind schedule..... So much for pushing it back 1 year......

My bet is they are using that new room they built for L.A. Noire, and while they are working with that, maybe they are retooling the story a bit. I really wish he was still in USA, have him move from NY to Chicago or something..... Better than Brazil or what other generic place they have it set it.... (Not that Brazil itself is generic, it just seems very stereo typical in the action movie/game market.)