[Tea Monster]

Yeah, we were talking about that on another thread. The old HRP could only do Quake III style models (without the lighting effects) so it was pretty much the same deal.
Now that we have Polymer, there is no reason that the HRP can't at least look like Doom III, which is a significant improvement. The modellers need to re-make the HRP in next-gen style. The problem is that most of the modellers have left a while ago to work on more advanced engines.

It would be great to re-make the levels and replace things like cash registers, cars and vending machines with real models. I don't think that the community is ready for that yet. You'd need to start a new mod and tackle it. Duke Plus is starting to do that.

[bullerbullerseven]

Norvak, on Dec 14 2010, 06:54 AM, said:

And don´t forget the turret

oh yea. but it looks a bit buggy with hrp i think. far too big xD

[Spirrwell]

Yeah, the way things are now, I would think that it would take no more than a year to do, but what do I know, I'm a programmer not a modeler. Ah that reminds me of a Duke one-liner from Time to Kill. "It's locked, besides I'm an ass kicker not a safe-cracker." Irrelevant I know, but what the hell. Anyway, it'd be a nice thing to try out.

[bullerbullerseven]

To me you're still tile 2200. That's right, you are FECES

[Jimmy]

One of the problems with the HRP, I think, is quality control. I know quite a few of my shitty contributions are stuck amongst great contributions by folks like Roma Loom and Piterplus, but there is still the issue that even well made tiles still might not fit together.

[Spirrwell]

Jhect, on Dec 14 2010, 07:44 AM, said:

To me you're still tile 2200. That's right, you are FECES

Thank you very much you bastard. At least I don't post half the random shit you and blackharted post. As for moderators\admins, I am sorry, I just don't like to tolerate insults without giving one back unless feces has some new meaning that I am unaware of.

Edit: And yes I am aware of mapster32 tile 2200.

[blackharted]

Spirrwell, on Dec 14 2010, 07:26 PM, said:

Thank you very much you bastard. At least I don't post half the random shit you and blackharted post. As for moderators\admins, I am sorry, I just don't like to tolerate insults without giving one back unless feces has some new meaning that I am unaware of.

Edit: And yes I am aware of mapster32 tile 2200.

My post and Jhect's are great!! (Especially mine http://forums2.duke4...tyle_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif ) If you want to talk feces than look in the mirror.

Now the remake thing: I want it on Xbox sooooooooo bad

[bullerbullerseven]

I could not resist the fun ^^
What i find funny is that you had to edit you're post.
This means that you did not know that 2200 is FECES.
YOU ARE SHIT

and yes

me and blackharted > this whole forum

[Spirrwell]

Jhect, on Dec 15 2010, 04:20 PM, said:

I could not resist the fun ^^
What i find funny is that you had to edit you're post.
This means that you did not know that 2200 is FECES.
YOU ARE SHIT

and yes

me and blackharted > this whole forum

Why would I edit it if I didn't know? Moron. People misunderstand things, like blackharted, he's so misunderstood... XD

[blackharted]

Spirrwell, on Dec 15 2010, 02:50 PM, said:

Why would I edit it if I didn't know? Moron. People misunderstand things, like Spirrwell, he's so misunderstood... XD
http://forums2.duke4...tyle_emoticons/default/tongue.gif

[Mr.Deviance]

What? Did you forget your troll kit at home today? That was pathetic.

[bullerbullerseven]

loved it

[Spirrwell]

Mr.Deviance, on Dec 16 2010, 12:25 PM, said:

What? Did you forget your troll kit at home today? That was pathetic.

Starting to agree with you more and more.

[brighthearted]

blackharted, on Dec 16 2010, 7:12 AM, said:

Spirrwell, on Dec 15 2010, 04:50 PM, said:

Why would I edit it if I didn't know? Moron. People misunderstand things, like blackharted, he's so misunderstood... XD
http://forums2.duke4...tyle_emoticons/default/tongue.gif

Fixed that for you.

[Tea Monster]

FFS, you kids keep it down up there!

Captain Awesome, on Dec 14 2010, 02:01 PM, said:

One of the problems with the HRP, I think, is quality control. I know quite a few of my shitty contributions are stuck amongst great contributions by folks like Roma Loom and Piterplus, but there is still the issue that even well made tiles still might not fit together.

There was some suggestion that the PHRP (Polymer HRP) should be run more like a separate mod, rather than a free-for-all, so that we could actually have an 'Art Director' who could check things out and hand stuff back to people if they didn't fit into the current feel of the pack. At the moment, people just come and dump stuff off and it either fits or it dosen't, there is no cohesion. Night Fright tries to keep stuff on track, and he's done a good job of putting packs together and organizing stuff.

The really great thing about the HRP was that it allowed everybody to do something for it. People learned to model and one or two of them got careers out of it at the end of the day. Maybe that is more important in one way than the actuall HRP itself.

[Danukem]

Tea Monster, on Dec 16 2010, 11:52 AM, said:

The really great thing about the HRP was that it allowed everybody to do something for it. People learned to model and one or two of them got careers out of it at the end of the day. Maybe that is more important in one way than the actuall HRP itself.

Maybe that is more important for those people who benefited. For the remaining 99.99% of us, the most important thing is having a quality HRP.

[Mr.Deviance]

Did anybody see this video yet?
http://www.youtube.c...D3TS8ZHkbM&hd=1

I can spot a few things that aren't quite ok.
First, the shotgun is gay, I don't like shotguns with spare shells attached to their side.
Second, they are fucking blind and ignorant when it comes to small details it seems, because they wrote L.A.P.D on the pig cop's uniform instead of L.A.R.D...

[K100]

"Yeah.. The vest says L.A.P.D, since its an L.A.P.D Cop, who is mutated. The "R" is written over the P, as a graffiti letter, on the final version http://forums2.duke4...tyle_emoticons/default/wink.gif"

fresch on facebook.

[Mr.Deviance]

K100, on Dec 19 2010, 04:04 AM, said:

"Yeah.. The vest says L.A.P.D, since its an L.A.P.D Cop, who is mutated. The "R" is written over the P, as a graffiti letter, on the final version http://forums2.duke4...tyle_emoticons/default/wink.gif"

fresch on facebook.

Aww that's a smart and nice artistic thing to do. If that's the case, for the time being, I take "they are fucking blind and ignorant when it comes to small details" back.
As for the shotgun, I still hate it though.

[blackharted]

Mr.Deviance, on Dec 16 2010, 09:25 AM, said:

What? Did you forget your troll kit at home today? That was pathetic.

No, you just looked at your reflection this morning.

[MusicallyInspired]

Sounds like a synth/sampled guitar. Disappointing. http://forums2.duke4...tyle_emoticons/default/sad.gif

[blackharted]

MusicallyInspired, on Dec 19 2010, 10:22 AM, said:

Sounds like a synth/sampled guitar. Disappointing.

http://forums2.duke4...tyle_emoticons/default/huh.gif

[Radar]

blackharted, on Dec 19 2010, 03:00 PM, said:

http://forums2.duke4...tyle_emoticons/default/huh.gif

http://en.wikipedia....cal_instrument)

As opposed to getting a nice guitar sound out of a real guitar and analog clipping.

[OpenMaw]

Oh boo hoo.

It sounds just fine. Personally, I think the rendition is very slick.

[Sebastian]

That pigcop model looks pretty damn fab. I'm eager to see how it all developes.

[Jimmy]

Commando Nukem, on Dec 19 2010, 05:05 PM, said:

Oh boo hoo.

It sounds just fine. Personally, I think the rendition is very slick.

It's okay, just a DNF 2001 ripoff, or perhaps just DNF 2001, with a rather generic and unsatisfying Grabbag. Nothing to get worked up about.

As for the video, it doesn't really show anything.

[Danukem]

Mr.Deviance, on Dec 19 2010, 02:45 AM, said:

Second, they are fucking blind and ignorant when it comes to small details it seems, because they wrote L.A.P.D on the pig cop's uniform instead of L.A.R.D...

It's too bad, because the pigcop mesh was the best thing in that video.

I think that qualifies as a serious error, though, and it shows that the people involved are not very knowledgeable about the Duke Nukem universe. Not only did the modeler not know, but whoever made and reviewed the video before it was released (including, presumably, the head of the project) didn't know either.

For those who don't know, Duke Nukem 3D was made shortly after a number of controversies involving the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) in the early 1990's. It's fair to say that the LAPD had a bad reputation at that time. The makers of Duke Nukem were aware of this and wanted to have some fun with it, so they put the label LARD on the pig cops. Clever, because it looks similar to LAPD, it's a word that refers to grease (as in pig fat or bacon grease), and it makes fun of the LAPD controversies without directly insulting the entire LAPD force.

To go ahead and put "LAPD" on there, and then for everyone to leave that in the movie shows that they haven't even looked carefully at any of the sprites or models that have gone before. And these are the people who are going to remake the game? Weak.

[Jimmy]

Expect responses of "LOL WE DID IT TO MAKE THE GAME MORE REALISTIC, LOL. HOW DO YOU LIKE THE GRAPHICS?!"

[K100]

DeeperThought, on Dec 19 2010, 07:04 PM, said:

It's too bad, because the pigcop mesh was the best thing in that video.

I think that qualifies as a serious error, though, and it shows that the people involved are not very knowledgeable about the Duke Nukem universe. Not only did the modeler not know, but whoever made and reviewed the video before it was released (including, presumably, the head of the project) didn't know either.

For those who don't know, Duke Nukem 3D was made shortly after a number of controversies involving the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) in the early 1990's. It's fair to say that the LAPD had a bad reputation at that time. The makers of Duke Nukem were aware of this and wanted to have some fun with it, so they put the label LARD on the pig cops. Clever, because it looks similar to LAPD, it's a word that refers to grease (as in pig fat or bacon grease), and it makes fun of the LAPD controversies without directly insulting the entire LAPD force.

To go ahead and put "LAPD" on there, and then for everyone to leave that in the movie shows that they haven't even looked carefully at any of the sprites or models that have gone before. And these are the people who are going to remake the game? Weak.

2nd time I post this:

fresch on facebook:
"Yeah.. The vest says L.A.P.D, since its an L.A.P.D Cop, who is mutated. The "R" is written over the P, as a graffiti letter, on the final version wink.gif"


Fresch on the DNR Forum:
"Because its LAPD.
The "R" is something the aliens did them selves.
Its painted over the P on the texture."

[Danukem]

K100, on Dec 20 2010, 02:48 AM, said:

2nd time I post this:

fresch on facebook:
"Yeah.. The vest says L.A.P.D, since its an L.A.P.D Cop, who is mutated. The "R" is written over the P, as a graffiti letter, on the final version wink.gif"


Fresch on the DNR Forum:
"Because its LAPD.
The "R" is something the aliens did them selves.
Its painted over the P on the texture."

Well of course it's going to be fixed after lots of people have pointed it out. It sounds like covering up for a mistake. I mean, why put the letters in the mesh at all, then? It's not like they need to be engraved into the uniform. Personally, I think it would make more sense to leave the letters off the mesh entirely, then allow for different skins with different variations. There could be pigcops from different police departments, and some that are not police based at all.