[Tea Monster]

Too many people in America are one paycheck away from disaster. They don't have healthcare, they don't have sick pay to fall back on. How are they going to cope with everything being put on hold for a month or two?
Is their landlord going to turn around and say "Yeah, I'll wait a few months for my rent" You know exactly what he'll say.

[Radar]

He'll say that sounds like communist propaganda but ok.

[Mark]

I'd like to hear from the "pro mass transit, packed in like sardines" crowd about their prefered form of transportation. I'll listen to the report on the radio while I drive my own vehicle breathing only my own bad breath.

I took stock of my food in the house. I estimated 75-80 meals on the shelves and in the fridge. Twelve 2 liter bottles of water in the fridge. I have those in there for 2 reasons. First, we have been having a major overhaul of water and sewage lines in our area and cutoffs were to be expected. Also, living alone I don't have a lot in the fridge so having the extra gallons of water in there help to keep the cool longer so the compressor runs less than it would with an empty fridge. My single 12 pack of toilet paper will last 3-4 months at least.

So I haven't felt the need to hoard yet.

[Micki!]

I got a 2 week surprise vacation over this whole deal, it's a little annoying, but at least i get to catch up on stuff, like saying hi here!

[MusicallyInspired]

Here in Canada they've close schools across the country for 3 weeks starting Monday. Alberta is pushing to close for the entire school year. Some already have. In a matter of a few days Manitoba has hone from safe/low probability to everything shutting down and closing doors after one suspected case was discovered in Winnipeg from someone who visited the Phillipines. I live an hour out of Winnipeg and lots of stores here are shutting down.

[Radar]

I heard that Trutard closed Canada's borders in an act of gross racism... oh wait no, it's only racist if Trump does it.

[PokeThePower]

You don't get it... there is no win decision. Every decision ends in suffering because this is an actual happening stop pretending it's just the fucking flu bro... god damn it.

Trooper Dan, on 17 March 2020 - 04:33 AM, said:

I still don't see the point of all this economic destruction.

It is to slow down the rate that people wind up in your local intensive care centers. Not currently severe but heavy cases sent home because there is no room left in the ICU die at home. Mild cases result in permanent damage to the individual even though they show up in "success" stats.

RADAЯ, on 17 March 2020 - 05:20 AM, said:

"No more politics from you Radar!"

I don't know man... maybe you should pause for a moment and reflect? Unless you actually think you are correct 100% of the time?

[Radar]

Oh, it's more than just a flu. The global economic halt made sure of that.

[Radar]

Also, why do you listen to stock traders? Do you actually invest in the stock market? Lmao, the Rothchilds and World Bank have you by the balls.

[PokeThePower]

RADAЯ, on 17 March 2020 - 09:41 AM, said:

Oh, it's more than just a flu. The global economic halt made sure of that.

No, the global economic halt is because of that. Stop derping past the pin that popped the existing bubble. The bubble was ready to pop, but it needed a legit chad pin to pop its cherry and that has arrived. Now prepare to live in a non-virgin QuantitativeEasing world.

Come on derp man... you've seen the charts. Pig flu was trivial compared to this.

[Danukem]

OccludeOlga, on 17 March 2020 - 09:24 AM, said:

Mild cases result in permanent damage to the individual even though they show up in "success" stats.

I have seen a report about some patients in Hong Kong who had been hospitalized and ended up with reduced lung function after recovering, but those were not mild cases.

[PokeThePower]

RADAЯ, on 17 March 2020 - 09:47 AM, said:

Also, why do you listen to stock traders? Do you actually invest in the stock market? Lmao, the Rothchilds and World Bank have you by the balls.

I let the Rothschild scam ride me up until early February.

Then I flipped everything because I saw the blood coming.

So no... I don't listen to stock traders, lazy fuck. I acted early and avoided stock carnage. Come at me with a different insult if you have one. I'm still telling you, you are a pussy and just venting your frustrations, not offering solutions or advertising prior preparations.

[Radar]

OccludeOlga, on 17 March 2020 - 09:49 AM, said:

No, the global economic halt is because of that. Stop derping past the pin that popped the existing bubble. The bubble was ready to pop, but it needed a legit chat pin to pop its cherry and that has arrived. Now prepare to live in a non-virgin QuantitativeEasing world.

Come on derp man... you've seen the charts. Pig flu was trivial compared to this.

I have seen the charts. 7,892 deaths out of 194,516 cases which puts mortality rate at 4%. But 200,000 global cases is way too low for a virus that's already traveled around the globe. The number of global infected is easily x10 that which puts mortality rate at .4% max.

[Hank]

Mark, on 17 March 2020 - 06:43 AM, said:

I'd like to hear from the "pro mass transit, packed in like sardines" crowd about their prefered form of transportation. I'll listen to the report on the radio while I drive my own vehicle breathing only my own bad breath.

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Not sure what you are asking.
I use mass transportation. Fast, efficient. Sardines? Rubbish. Subway, has AC, or if you are claustrophobic, wait for the next, usually emptier, subway. Bad breath? Get your teeth cleaned. Worried about catching something? Dude, you can catch something, going into one of the finest restaurants, or by just walking to your next-door grocery store, or staying indoors and getting a shipment from Amazon.
If you want to drive, you can. Cars come to mind, or on a nice day, a motor bike, even. You wanna show off? You can do that too and get a limo service.
If this radio thingy was living in large towns, based on YouTube crap, well, of course, stay away from subways. Oh my god, there are people in those. Shocking. And so many. Germ feast, pick pockets, gangs ... scary.

[Danukem]

What an odd non-sequitur post that was, Hank. Are you implying that using public transportation is just as safe in relation to the coronavirus as traveling by yourself in your own vehicle? And if not, then what was your point exactly?

It's pretty obvious that Mark was pointing out that at a time like this, solo vehicle driving is more socially responsible than public transportation, contra the stance taken during normal times by public transportation/anti-car advocates.

[Hank]

We seem to live in a different world here. I do not accept the panic machine.
Toronto, Metro has +5000000 inhabitants. People affected by this oh so scary, deadly, virus, 150.
150/5000000=0.00003 chance of meeting someone with this virus, at any given time.
Last week, NYC, 180/9000000.
My humblest apologies to even suggest to keep living your life, like before. But sure, I do admit, this is me, only. You can massage numbers any which way, to show that if you stay away from big crowds, your chance on getting a virus is 0.0000001 instead, which is numerically a huge difference.

[Danukem]

Hank, on 17 March 2020 - 12:20 PM, said:

We seem to live in a different world here. I do not accept the panic machine.
Toronto, Metro has +5000000 inhabitants. People affected by this oh so scary, deadly, virus, 150.
150/5000000=0.00003 chance of meeting someone with this virus, at any given time.
Last week, NYC, 180/9000000.
My humblest apologies to even suggest to keep living your life, like before. But sure, I do admit, this is me, only. You can massage numbers any which way, to show that if you stay away from big crowds, your chance on getting a virus is 0.0000001 instead, which is numerically a huge difference.

Those numbers are trash.
Hardly anyone has been tested. Lots of people are walking around and spreading the virus and don't even know it. It has an incubation period of about four days, during which the infected are highly contagious and show no symptoms.

[Kyanos]

RADAЯ, on 17 March 2020 - 10:02 AM, said:

I have seen the charts. 7,892 deaths out of 194,516 cases which puts mortality rate at 4%. But 200,000 global cases is way too low for a virus that's already traveled around the globe. The number of global infected is easily x10 that which puts mortality rate at .4% max.

China lied to you about the death count. Sorry, obfuscated the real numbers with reported deaths from "viral pneumonia".

[Radar]

How do you know I'm not factoring that in? Using common sense I would ball-park the number of globally infected carriers at 5 million minimum.

[MusicallyInspired]

Alberta and Ontario have no declared a state of emergency. Geez.

[Danukem]

https://nypost.com/2...-of-terrifying/

[Jimmy]

OccludeOlga, on 17 March 2020 - 09:54 AM, said:

I'm still telling you, you are a pussy and just venting your frustrations, not offering solutions or advertising prior preparations.

C O P E

[Danukem]

This new Spring Olympics is really strange. I'm used to seeing China on the podium these days, but it's weird to see Italy and Iran being high in any international rankings. And it looks like my country won't even be medaling, although some people are saying we're going to have a big surge towards the top of the leaderboard.

I also think the rankings are kind of messed up. 116 in the D column should put the US above Germany. It's like when they make the medal count charts and they just add all the medals together instead of prioritizing gold.

[NNC]

COVID-19 is an artifically generated crisis meant to test the long awaited international eco dictatorship most neo Marxists are waiting for since the failure of their former takeover plan, the bolshevism.

[Darkus]

[Gambini]

Ronin, on 16 March 2020 - 05:55 PM, said:

I've been ready for an economic collapse combined with the waves of diversity for shit to hit the fan since I bought my house 4 years ago. 4 months of rationed food, water, tooth paste, vitamins, petrol, gear, and a get out of dodge plan with my wife and family. I didn't expect this to be the way it would go down but I'm ready either way and have been gradually mentally preparing those around me for it too.

I am hoping we can pull together and get through this but from what I'm seeing and how people are already behaving I hold low expectations that this won't get real ugly. I'm worried for my parents more than anything.

Was sitting in my car today about to finish my break when a DHL delivery driver is approaching the warehouse entrance with a load of boxes on a hand trolley, he sniffes then sneezes all over the boxes in front of me and carries them into the warehouse and gets them signed for. I get out of the car and head in a separate door to avoid passing the sneeze spay still in the air and ask the guys did the driver tell them he sneezed on the boxes they were about to open. The answer is no.

Itchy, tasty

I´m a DHL delivery driver, and I was kind of worried about stuff like what you mentioned would happen. Now that you mention it, I´m even more worried. We are taking some preventive measures at work, but the main possible route of contagion is still open. We handle stuff that comes from all coutries (very specially from China) and our shipments are picked and delivered in an average of 48 hours, from all around the world. This means anyone can touch an infected surface in the time the virus is still active. I believe nothing will be done until the headquarters say so. Hope they have their priorities alligned with the ethics they promote.

[PokeThePower]

RADAЯ, on 17 March 2020 - 10:02 AM, said:

I have seen the charts. 7,892 deaths out of 194,516 cases which puts mortality rate at 4%. But 200,000 global cases is way too low for a virus that's already traveled around the globe. The number of global infected is easily x10 that which puts mortality rate at .4% max.

You presume that deaths aren't going untested. Regardless, what matters is the actual effect. Stats, rants, bitching, won't eradicate the brushfire burning through a market just begging for bad news to give it an excuse to correct down 75% or more because it was already primed for some volatility to destroy some retirements.

Hank, on 17 March 2020 - 12:20 PM, said:

Toronto, Metro has +5000000 inhabitants. People affected by this oh so scary, deadly, virus, 150.

Confirmed affected. You keep leaving that part out.

Trooper Dan, on 18 March 2020 - 01:44 AM, said:

This new Spring Olympics is really strange. I'm used to seeing China on the podium these days, but it's weird to see Italy and Iran being high in any international rankings. And it looks like my country won't even be medaling, although some people are saying we're going to have a big surge towards the top of the leaderboard.

I think the best way of evaluating those Olympics is to sort by cases per million population. MUCH different game afoot. Right now San Marino is leading the flat globe with a strong lead over Vatican City.

[Radar]

OccludeOlga, on 18 March 2020 - 05:36 PM, said:

You presume that deaths aren't going untested.

I think pretty much every death on the planet is being monitored right now. Oh wait I know Kim Jong-un is claiming NK has 0 cases of COVID-19.

OccludeOlga, on 18 March 2020 - 05:36 PM, said:

Regardless, what matters is the actual effect. Stats, rants, bitching, won't eradicate the brushfire burning through a market just begging for bad news to give it an excuse to correct down 75% or more because it was already primed for some volatility to destroy some retirements.

Which is what I've been saying since the very beginning. Coronavirus will be peanuts compared to the resulting economic disaster. Let's just hope we treat it like 1987 and not 2008.

[PokeThePower]

RADAЯ, on 18 March 2020 - 05:57 PM, said:

I think pretty much every death on the planet is being monitored right now. Oh wait I know Kim Jong-un is claiming NK has 0 cases of COVID-19.

I disagree but we won't know for sure until we're dead. I think most deaths are not being tested.

RADAЯ, on 18 March 2020 - 05:57 PM, said:

Which is what I've been saying since the very beginning. Coronavirus will be peanuts compared to the resulting economic disaster. Let's just hope we treat it like 1987 and not 2008.

Nope. This is a happening. 1987 and 2008 are nothing burgers compared to what is unfolding here.

[Danukem]

https://www.sciencem...ret-its-success

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Amid these dire trends, South Korea has emerged as a sign of hope and a model to emulate. The country of 50 million appears to have greatly slowed its epidemic; it reported only 74 new cases today, down from 909 at its peak on 29 February. And it has done so without locking down entire cities or taking some of the other authoritarian measures that helped China bring its epidemic under control. “South Korea is a democratic republic, we feel a lockdown is not a reasonable choice,” says Kim Woo-Joo, an infectious disease specialist at Korea University. South Korea’s success may hold lessons for other countries—and also a warning: Even after driving case numbers down, the country is braced for a resurgence.
Behind its success so far has been the most expansive and well-organized testing program in the world, combined with extensive efforts to isolate infected people and trace and quarantine their contacts.

We will be debating what the best response would have been for the rest of our lives. But I hope we can all agree that aggressive widespread early testing would have been a lot better than what we got.