[Jimmy]

Anybody have any thoughts on the second amendment rally coming up in Virginia in a few days? I'm beginning to fear it's a trap of some sort, but I'm still compelled to go. This country was founded by the brave, not the cowardly. I will be there, it's walking distance from my house. Any input?

>Richmond is loaded with tunnels
>including a dozen or so right underneath the rally point that are well maintained "for emergencies" and have very localized entrances
>most of the rally is being shipped in on buses
>they will have to walk along Monument Avenue to get there (interesting synchronicity here, because the libs ree over Monument all the time)
>feels like a funnel trap to me, I'd be coming from the opposite direction over the James River though
>they just banned guns on the capitol
>people will probably bring guns anyway

[PokeThePower]

HorseDongSub69, on 14 January 2020 - 07:30 PM, said:

People like Thrice can't accept that people can hold different beliefs. Their lives will be filled with strife until they realize this fact, which they probably never will. Furthermore, beliefs, as I've stated before, are not as concrete on the ground and in the real world. This is why you will see people like Black Muslims and White Supremacists be strange bedfellows. They're both holders of oppressed belief systems, and for whatever reason they recognize that each other exist.

bigot noun
big·​ot | \ ˈbi-gət  \
Definition of bigot
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

Thrice is a legitimate bigot. However I don't think he is malicious or deliberate.

HorseDongSub69, on 14 January 2020 - 07:30 PM, said:

Quashing a belief system only makes it grow. Case in point, flat earth. You can only defeat bad ideas with good ideas. You can't convince someone your ideas are better if you're constantly demonizing them. Most flat earthers are so adamant primarily because people who believe in science like it's a religion refuse to engage with them at all.

Nobody puts energy into suppressing Moon Cheese. People only put effort into shutting up things that have a point, even if they aren't entirely correct.

HorseDongSub69, on 14 January 2020 - 07:30 PM, said:

Why did they abandon their own people?

It is a mystery. Well, it's a mystery to those who haven't been empathetic enough to listen to the millennia of cries from the people of Judea.

HorseDongSub69, on 14 January 2020 - 07:30 PM, said:

The mod staff challenges the commoners of this forum ALL the time. They literally shove half of our threads and posts into a secret subforum. We are refugees of a dying era of the internet.

Outhouse is good.

HorseDongSub69, on 14 January 2020 - 07:30 PM, said:

Johnny was banned. He should not have been.

I think Trooper did the right thing. Johnny wasn't banned because of his opinions. He was never going to stop escalating his assault.

HorseDongSub69, on 14 January 2020 - 10:07 PM, said:

Anybody have any thoughts on the second amendment rally coming up in Virginia in a few days?

Stay away. Stay silent. It won't pass the SCOTUS.

[Danukem]

HorseDongSub69, on 14 January 2020 - 07:30 PM, said:

People like Thrice can't accept that people can hold different beliefs. Their lives will be filled with strife until they realize this fact, which they probably never will. Furthermore, beliefs, as I've stated before, are not as concrete on the ground and in the real world. This is why you will see people like Black Muslims and White Supremacists be strange bedfellows. They're both holders of oppressed belief systems, and for whatever reason they recognize that each other exist.

Quashing a belief system only makes it grow. Case in point, flat earth. You can only defeat bad ideas with good ideas. You can't convince someone your ideas are better if you're constantly demonizing them. Most flat earthers are so adamant primarily because people who believe in science like it's a religion refuse to engage with them at all.

Hmmm, I think what thricecursed has trouble accepting is that people who hold genuinely bad beliefs can still be worth talking to and be worthwhile as people, at least in many aspects. When I say "genuinely bad" I mean morally bad by his standards (we all have them). That doesn't mean that he or anyone else is obligated to stop fighting for their own beliefs or accept the "bad" things, but it means that we can still respect each other as flawed human beings while we carry on our battles. It's a hard lesson to learn, and it's a lesson that can be taken too far. We don't want to get chummy with our political adversaries to the point where we start compromising our own values.

As for how much strife there is in our lives -- that's partially a choice and it's partially thrust upon us. If there's not some strife in your life, then I wonder if you are too complacent. And there's an important distinction to be made between internal strife and external strife, too.

Quashing beliefs strengthens them amongst some, but can largely eliminate those beliefs in the masses. Propaganda does work -- the evidence of this is all around us.

[PokeThePower]

Trooper Dan, on 14 January 2020 - 10:50 PM, said:

...can still be worth talking to...

Seriously... ya'll think I link to Jews_for_Hitler on bitchute for shock value.

No... the dude puts a lot of effort into explaining his perspective... which he is at great risk for expressing.

[Forge]

Germany borrowed from the rothchild's bank during wwI
Germany borrowed from the british and u.s. branches of the rothchild's bank after wwI to pay back reparations and rebuild
the rothchild's bank owned post wwI germany

they also financed Lenin, but that's just another 'coincidence'

[PokeThePower]

(((Germany)))

[Radar]

OccludeOlga, on 14 January 2020 - 09:51 PM, said:

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Ok?

HorseDongSub69, on 14 January 2020 - 10:07 PM, said:

Anybody have any thoughts on the second amendment rally coming up in Virginia in a few days? I'm beginning to fear it's a trap of some sort, but I'm still compelled to go. This country was founded by the brave, not the cowardly. I will be there, it's walking distance from my house. Any input?

All I know is that I have felt sorry for your state ever since last year's election.

OccludeOlga, on 14 January 2020 - 11:05 PM, said:

Seriously... ya'll think I link to Jews_for_Hitler on bitchute for shock value.

No... the dude puts a lot of effort into explaining his perspective... which he is at great risk for expressing.

That content creator is clearly aiming for shock value with that name. "Jews for Hitler" is just as dumb as "Jews for Palestine". Part of a series of self-hating Jew nonsense.

[PokeThePower]

Radar 100 Watts, on 15 January 2020 - 01:28 PM, said:

Ok?

What part was confusing?

Radar 100 Watts, on 15 January 2020 - 01:28 PM, said:

That content creator is clearly aiming for shock value with that name. "Jews for Hitler" is just as dumb as "Jews for Palestine". Part of a series of self-hating Jew nonsense.

Have you watched any of that content creator's content?

[Radar]

OccludeOlga, on 15 January 2020 - 01:41 PM, said:

What part was confusing?

What was your point?

OccludeOlga, on 15 January 2020 - 01:41 PM, said:

Have you watched any of that content creator's content?

Any specific content you recommend? Preferably something under 15 minutes.

[PokeThePower]

Radar 100 Watts, on 15 January 2020 - 01:51 PM, said:

What was your point?

Don't pray on a rug in public or wail against a wall.

Radar 100 Watts, on 15 January 2020 - 01:51 PM, said:

Any specific content you recommend? Preferably something under 15 minutes.

Sure, he deliberately made a video just for someone like you.

[Jimmy]

God's commandment to exterminate the Canaanites was never completed and still in commandment.

[Forge]

HorseDongSub69, on 15 January 2020 - 02:04 PM, said:

God's commandment to exterminate the Canaanites was never completed and still in commandment.

too late. Rahab lived and become part of Jesus' blood line.
You can't kill zombie-Jesus. He rose from the dead and ascended away.

[Radar]

OccludeOlga, on 15 January 2020 - 02:00 PM, said:

Don't pray on a rug in public or wail against a wall.

You're superimposing a general Biblical principle onto a few Jewish rituals. Jesus's commandment against Jews who wail is just as admonishing of Christians who pray loud at the pulpit. The message here is for worship to come from the heart, not for the sake of performance.

OccludeOlga, on 15 January 2020 - 02:00 PM, said:

Sure, he deliberately made a video just for someone like you.

Let's debunk all 4 of his points.

1. The Jew's are God's Chosen People

Jew has always been used interchangeably for descendants of Israel. The Apostle Paul called himself a Jew. He also identified as a Benjamite, not a Judean as this would imply.

The term "Jew" came into standard use after the Southern Kingdom fell, also known as Judea. They Northern Kingdom had already fallen for quite some time which is why Judah superseded the tribes of the North regarding terminology. This is precisely why the occurrence of the term "Jew" ramps up after the 70 year captivity, specifically in the books of Ezra, Nehemiah, and Esther. The surviving remnant are called Jews, and this is made clear within the Old Testament.

As for the assertion that Judea was never meant to rule, why then is the Davidic dynasty a spawn of Judah? Why is the King called the Son of David?

2. The Jewish Homeland is Israel

Moses repeats to Israel that God's land grant to them was actually from the Red Sea all the way to the Euphrates. Whether the remnant today are "Judeans" who are taking up more land than is "rightfully theirs" is inconsequential since Israel has been quite generous with their land grant since the very beginning.

3. The Jews believe in the Old Testament

*Sigh* So this section is pretty much a jab at Jews for believing in the Talmud. Jews can believe in both the Talmud and Tanakh just as much as Christians can believe in both the NT and OT. Just because the Talmud is non-inspired doesn't mean it wasn't contrived to be compatible.

4. The Old Testament is about Jews

The OT is about Israel which in modern times is interchangeable with Jews.

HorseDongSub69, on 15 January 2020 - 02:04 PM, said:

God's commandment to exterminate the Canaanites was never completed and still in commandment.

No.

[PokeThePower]

Look Radar, I know you are too invested to ever change your perspective so I offer this reply as a formality. I once was as you are.

Radar 100 Watts, on 15 January 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

You're superimposing a general Biblical principle onto a few Jewish rituals. Jesus's commandment against Jews who wail is just as admonishing of Christians who pray loud at the pulpit. The message here is for worship to come from the heart, not for the sake of performance.

OK Boomer.

Radar 100 Watts, on 15 January 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

Jew has always been used interchangeably for descendants of Israel.

No. That is a shenanigan for political purposes. Has been for a very long time. If Jew = Israel then everything loses all meaning. Israel is Jacob, Jacob had a son that is rightfully named Judah. The son cannot rightfully claim his father's name. He can convince people to use them interchangeably, but he is acting in deceit and all that perpetuate the deceit are complicit. You are using deliberate shenanigans to justify something that while very old, is still a shenanigan.

This is the foundation upon which everything else breaks.

Judah != Jacob. Period, end of story, forever and ever amen.

[Radar]

So the Bible is wrong when the Bible refers to Israel as Jews? lol

[PokeThePower]

If you're willing to go through the rest of his series (longer than 15 minutes) he addresses that problem.

Yes. The book you have in your hands written in English has suffered through the translations. Only literal retards think that the specific bible they are holding today is perfect.

Judah != Jacob. End of story.

[Jimmy]

The Bible Americans are familiar with is filled with mistranslations and made up shit.

In first Corinthians 6:9 we see:
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites"

Except there is no word for "homosexual" in Greek. (How the fuck did the people who invented faggotry not have a word for it? Ayyy lmao)

Instead the word in the original text is "Arsenokoitai." Some guy in the 50s just assumed it meant homos and inserted it in there.

Greek scholars now universally agree that this term probably refers to pedophiles.

Radar 100 Watts, on 15 January 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

No.

Yes. They were never completely wiped out and now today our societies across the world are rife with their evil, from ritual child abuse and sacrifice to mass scale abortion. They are still here. They are of their father, Molech.

[Radar]

OccludeOlga, on 15 January 2020 - 05:15 PM, said:

If you're willing to go through the rest of his series (longer than 15 minutes) he addresses that problem.

Yes. The book you have in your hands written in English has suffered through the translations. Only literal retards think that the specific bible they are holding today is perfect.

Judah != Jacob. End of story.

I'll go through his series if you read the Bible instead of watching videos about it.

HorseDongSub69, on 15 January 2020 - 05:35 PM, said:

The Bible Americans are familiar with is filled with mistranslations and made up shit.

In first Corinthians 6:9 we see:
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites"

Except there is no word for "homosexual" in Greek. (How the fuck did the people who invented faggotry not have a word for it? Ayyy lmao)

Instead the word in the original text is "Arsenokoitai." Some guy in the 50s just assumed it meant homos and inserted it in there.

Greek scholars now universally agree that this term probably refers to pedophiles.

Probably. Homosexuality is banned in the NT anyway via Romans 1 so it doesn't really matter. Every translation seems to have issues with that word. KJV uses "effeminate". Romanian Cornilescu uses "malahii" which literally means "people who masterbate".

HorseDongSub69, on 15 January 2020 - 05:35 PM, said:

Yes. They were never completely wiped out and now today our societies across the world are rife with their evil, from ritual child abuse and sacrifice to mass scale abortion. They are still here. They are of their father, Molech.

He who lives by the sword dies by the sword.

[PokeThePower]

Radar 100 Watts, on 15 January 2020 - 05:49 PM, said:

I'll go through his series if you read the Bible instead of watching videos about it.

Paul was talking about his current citizenship, not his lineage. FFS.

Judah != Jacob. End of story.

[Radar]

Paul was actually a Roman citizen by birth. His Jewish citizenship was obtained through his lineage.

[Jimmy]

Radar 100 Watts, on 15 January 2020 - 05:49 PM, said:

Probably. Homosexuality is banned in the NT anyway via Romans 1 so it doesn't really matter.

I don't think that's what he meant. He was summarizing Jewish legalism at that time.

Radar 100 Watts, on 15 January 2020 - 05:49 PM, said:

He who lives by the sword dies by the sword.

I legitimately don't see a problem with this.

[PokeThePower]

This isn't hard, Radar. Paul is a Benjamite.

Temporary political identity though...

Judah != Jacob. End of story.

Judah does not equal Jacob. It never has, it never will. Period. End of story. No matter how many people are killed trying to convince the world that Judah is Jacob, it will never, ever, be true.

[Radar]

OccludeOlga, on 15 January 2020 - 06:11 PM, said:

End of story...It never has, it never will. Period. End of story...it will never, ever, be true.

We're hitting boomer levels that shouldn't even be possible.

[PokeThePower]

Radar...

This is really really important...

Spoiler

Judah != Jacob. End of story.

[Hank]

OccludeOlga'sOcculus ... it ain't that simple
Acts 22:26-28 NABRE (Catholic Bible)
When the centurion heard this, he went to the cohort commander and reported it, saying, "What are you going to do? This man (Apostle Paul) is a Roman citizen." Then the commander came and said to him, "Tell me, are you a Roman citizen?" "Yes,” he answered. The commander replied, "I acquired this citizenship for a large sum of money." Paul said, “But I was born one.”

and
Romans 11:1 NABRE
I ask, then, has God rejected his people? Of course not! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

Paul, in Romans, talks from his roots, from 1k years ago. Considering how many times the country was overrun by other empires, he would have had a hard time proving this statement.

Yes, I'm one of those lapsed Catholics, after dishing JW and Presbyterian. Still, I never renounced Jesus, just lost the ability to 'just' believe.

[Forge]

not sure what's going on

Jacob = Israel (northern Israel)
Judah = Judah in the land of Judea (southern Israel)

Judah maintained bloodlines and traditions, Israel basically became the samaritans and other mudbloods.

ex.
Judeans were admonished from intermingling with Israelites after they were released from Babylon

[PokeThePower]

Hank, on 15 January 2020 - 07:00 PM, said:

OccludeOlga'sOcculus ... it ain't that simple

Forge, on 15 January 2020 - 08:14 PM, said:

not sure what's going on

Go back through the Bible and everytime Israel is mentioned put Soros and Netanyahu there.

You will quickly see the problem. Most descendants of Israel alive today do not know they are Israeli. One brother is claiming an identity beyond his actual claim, this is an ancient problem.

[Hank]

OccludeOlga, on 16 January 2020 - 08:15 AM, said:

Go back through the Bible and everytime Israel is mentioned put Soros and Netanyahu there.

You do realize that the portions of the Old Testament were written well after (1500 Years) the events took place? They may not be truly reliable factual history.

OccludeOlga, on 16 January 2020 - 08:15 AM, said:

You will quickly see the problem. Most descendants of Israel alive today do not know they are Israeli. One brother is claiming an identity beyond his actual claim, this is an ancient problem.

I see no problem. It makes no difference, well, to me. If you identify as Israeli, you can. If you do not, well, then don’t. The only way to find out exactly who is decedent of whom is to round them all up, and do DNA tests.

Meanwhile the Middle East is a war zone, as it was and forever will be.

[Forge]

Hank, on 16 January 2020 - 10:30 AM, said:

The only way to find out exactly who is decedent of whom is to round them all up

is that your final solution?

[PokeThePower]

Hank, on 16 January 2020 - 10:30 AM, said:

You do realize that the portions of the Old Testament were written well after (1500 Years) the events took place? They may not be truly reliable factual history.

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Precisely, it requires some discernment.

Hank, on 16 January 2020 - 10:30 AM, said:

I see no problem. It makes no difference, well, to me. If you identify as Israeli, you can. If you do not, well, then don’t. The only way to find out exactly who is decedent of whom is to round them all up, and do DNA tests.

Sure, tell your average modern Jew that if you identify as a Jew, you can. See how far that gets you.