Leisure Suit Larry: Wet Dreams Never Dry "Controversy"
#1 Posted 23 May 2018 - 10:25 AM
https://store.steamp...reams_Dont_Dry/
There's a bit of a controversy over this on Twitter right now. What are your thoughts? Some people are calling the series irrelevant and that "like Duke Nukem, it was funny when I was 12 but now it's just cringe-worthy." I've never liked the LSL series so it's really interesting to see a backlash against it similar to how Christians reviled it in the 80s and 90s. The whole thing is fascinating to watch.
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#2 Posted 23 May 2018 - 11:45 AM
#3 Posted 23 May 2018 - 12:06 PM
Also, I should have put this in the Gaming subforum. No idea why I didn't.
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#4 Posted 23 May 2018 - 02:47 PM
I played and finished all of the original Larry games (1-7) because I like point & click adventure games in general. Also played Magna Cum Laude but never finished it because I don't like games with terrible controls and boring unskippable minigames.
I don't know anything about a "controversy". This thread is the first time I ever heard about this game. But what's the worst that can happen to this game? A couple of people (who were probably not going to buy the game anyway) are getting upset. So what? This isn't 1996 where you had to sell physical copies of the game and therefore were screwed if some big-name retailers refused to sell your game because some people complained about it. I strongly doubt that something as serious as that could happen on any of the big download platforms. It might not get featured on the main store page, but there are other ways to let people know the game exists. Like this "controversy", for example.
PS: Magna Cum Laude was still published by Sierra/Vivendi in 2004.
#5 Posted 24 May 2018 - 05:53 AM
They should have stayed with the Style of LSL7-Love for Sail.
And I hope they streamlined the interface.
#6 Posted 24 May 2018 - 04:00 PM
https://www.eurogame...for-some-reason
Now I have to say that if this is your reaction to something completely harmless like a new Larry game then you're an idiot who must be the dullest fuck ever at parties. It's good to have an opinion on something but this just takes that too far to the point where the article just comes off as an ignorant, incompetent piece of garbage.
As for the game itself I like what I'm seeing so far and I think that the fan reaction to its existence is a bit too negative. Sure, Al Lowe is not involved but that doesn't mean that the game will be bad and honestly the concept is better than what a lot of the Larry sequels had. The idea that Larry travels through time from the 80s to the 21st century and he has to face the #metoo stuff, the tendencies of modern society and online dating is great and really if you want to reboot the franchise without Al Lowe that's the correct way to do it. On top of that there is clearly a coherent story and visual design here: they deliberately chose not to base Larry's looks on the later games but on how he looked like in Larry 1-2-3 (that's why he's taller, a bit slimmer and younger) so it looks like they understand the source material pretty well.
The development team seems like an inexperienced bunch but actually they worked together with Daedalic Entertainment on a few adventure games so I'm willing to bet that they know what they're doing. And well, they are German and while I'm not exactly down with German humor usually they make pretty good and great point-n-click adventure games. The 2D graphics seem nicely detailed (that's important for a point-n-click because having to properly explore most of the screens is part of what makes a game like this fun) and the art style is pretty Larry too. I hope they don't fuck it up because to me it looks really promising.
#7 Posted 24 May 2018 - 04:07 PM
MusicallyInspired, on 23 May 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:
I can debunk that with the title of a show: Ash vs. Evil Dead. Ash is a backwards asshole just like Duke and Larry are but - again: just like Duke and Larry - he's a super likeable character. The only thing you have to do in order to make a character like that relevant and fun today is to focus on why he's awesome while at the same time have new characters to react to the character's old school mentality. This is what Pablo and Kelly does in Ash vs. Evil Dead and it works wonderfully both in terms of comedy and as a method to "lighten" up the elements that could cause an outrage on flower land. It's a wonderful show, pure Evil Dead / Army of Darkness fun without dumbing anything down.
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#8 Posted 24 May 2018 - 07:16 PM
K1n9_Duk3, on 23 May 2018 - 02:47 PM, said:
I thought the final girl in LSL1 was Eve. I remember she wanted an apple. But it has been a while since I've played it.
#9 Posted 24 May 2018 - 07:21 PM
#10 Posted 24 May 2018 - 08:11 PM
I never played the games in the series cause I hate Point and Click games, but I may give this one a shot, though LSL chose the right time to resurrect itself when 80s nostalgia is all the rage and gamers are in a revolt against the said irrelevant gaming sites who are trying to get all this risque stuff banned.
Though I think Steam was the wrong place to put this game since Steam is currently under fire themselves for threatening all the adult games on Steam.
#11 Posted 24 May 2018 - 08:56 PM
xMobilemux, on 24 May 2018 - 08:11 PM, said:
No worries, Larry is not at all adult in that sense, it's just a fun adventure series about a horny loser who wants to score.
#12 Posted 25 May 2018 - 12:00 AM
Zaxx, on 24 May 2018 - 04:00 PM, said:
https://www.eurogame...for-some-reason
Now I have to say that if this is your reaction to something completely harmless like a new Larry game then you're an idiot who must be the dullest fuck ever at parties. It's good to have an opinion on something but this just takes that too far to the point where the article just comes off as an ignorant, incompetent piece of garbage
The worst thing about his article is that at the end, he links to an old review by a different reviewer of a different game that was made by different people. If you go to that review, it's clear that the reviewer is too annoyed at the "sexism" and "racism" (the "racism" consisted of having a black pimp character in the game and a joke reference to large black penises) of the game to focus much on the actual gameplay. So we have an article telling us that a game should not exist, because his friend --who is clearly not the intended audience for the game-- did not like the previous game, which was not even made by the same people.
Also, I wonder if people who review romance novels ever complain that the novels are "not relevant" or "do not need to exist". More likely, the reviewers understand that the trashy books have a certain audience who enjoys them, are interested in providing useful information to that audience, and do so.
LSL games are obviously for a small niche market, and in a world where we are flooded by games of all genres for people of all tastes, there is nothing wrong with that.
#13 Posted 25 May 2018 - 12:06 AM
Trooper Dan, on 25 May 2018 - 12:00 AM, said:
Not only that but the 2/10 score is also bonkers: LSL Reloaded is a really good remake, the game is exactly what people who backed the Kickstarter asked for.
#14 Posted 25 May 2018 - 12:12 AM
Guess this guy is the new Hitler now, a 70 year old man posting dad jokes on his Twitter...:
https://twitter.com/allowe
Idiocy.
#15 Posted 25 May 2018 - 12:13 AM
Zaxx, on 25 May 2018 - 12:06 AM, said:
This goes to show that providing useful reviews is not a goal of the site. They assigned someone to review the game who obviously was going to be offended by it, therefore guaranteeing that her review would not be relevant to the people who would be interested in that game.
#16 Posted 25 May 2018 - 01:56 AM
I have these from GOG already but if anyone wants to take the old nostalgia for a spin the price is pretty cool.
#17 Posted 25 May 2018 - 01:22 PM
enderandrew, on 24 May 2018 - 07:16 PM, said:
Nice to see that I could trick somebody.
Seriously, I originally wanted to make it clear that Faith wasn't the ultimate girl in the original, but I assumed that everybody who played the game would remember the apple & Eve thing. Faith was the one guarding the entrance to Eve's penthouse, and she went straight home to her boyfriend when you gave her the correct item. At least that's how it was in the original and VGA versions (I haven't played Reloaded).
#18 Posted 26 May 2018 - 05:10 PM
#19 Posted 27 May 2018 - 03:35 PM
Grand Admiral Thrawn, on 26 May 2018 - 05:10 PM, said:
Yep, that's sad but thank Replay Games and its idiot CEO for that.
#20 Posted 30 May 2018 - 06:12 AM
#21 Posted 03 June 2018 - 07:48 AM
My concern comes from the recurring locations and the non-involvement of Al Lowe. I hope that sooner rather than later we get a real decent gameplay trailer that shows us something fresh.
#22 Posted 04 June 2018 - 01:43 AM
#23 Posted 04 June 2018 - 03:12 AM
Easily still the best Space Quest ever made.
#24 Posted 04 June 2018 - 06:04 AM
I love Space Quest 5, but a Space Quest without Scott Murphy at the pen is a sub-par Space Quest.
#25 Posted 04 June 2018 - 06:43 AM
Out of all of Sierra's adventure games I absolutely the love Quest for Glory series, but my all time favorite game from it is QFG4 and I find it to be a masterpiece, I also like the VGA style remake of QFG2 as I love the Arabian theme.
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#26 Posted 04 June 2018 - 06:49 AM
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#27 Posted 07 November 2018 - 12:27 AM
I am very sceptical about the game, but since I am currently working on 3 point'n'click games of which 1.5 fall into the same category as Larry I might get a few inspirations (probably what NOT to do, when it comes to gameplay).
#28 Posted 07 November 2018 - 02:22 AM
fuegerstef, on 07 November 2018 - 12:27 AM, said:
I am very sceptical about the game,
Me too but honestly after they announced that Jan Rabson is returning as Larry I'm at least cautiously optimistic.
#29 Posted 07 November 2018 - 09:23 AM
I had a few laughs already, which is what this game is for, isn't it?
This post has been edited by fuegerstef: 07 November 2018 - 09:28 AM
#30 Posted 01 December 2018 - 08:15 AM
https://www.polygon....-sierra-on-line
(Polygon sucks, I know, but they have the item listings unlike some other news links I had. And this might have warranted a new post but I wasn’t sure).