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  1. In Topic: Duke Being Put To Pasture?

    02 February 2019 - 11:19 PM

    View PostMrFlibble, on 02 February 2019 - 05:36 AM, said:

    I believe that we as players should never ever put on the marketing mindset when in any way approaching the games we play and love. It's a sad fact that the future of the IP is decided by people who do measure its value by its profitability, but I find it deplorable that discussions in a fan forum degrade to a similar form of discourse.
    If the community continues to produce excellent new content Duke will never be "put to pasture".

    Of course us players should never put on the marketing mindset when approaching the game we love, but the cold hard fact is that Gearbox does. So in the context of the conversation, yes if Duke is to come back with new, I mean completely new, content then there has to be a profit seen. I'd love a Duke game made with just passion and fans in mind, and not money, but that just won't happen while it's in Gearbox's hands. What I'm trying to point out is the fact that Randy is blind to the fact Duke would make money. The audience that he's probably afraid of offending doesn't play games, and the controversy Duke might stir up would only draw more real gamers to the game. Put the game itself in the hands of one who cares, and Gearbox could let them make the game, release it, and profit off of it, meanwhile us Duke fans would get to enjoy a nice 100% Duke game. Everyone wins. Sure, there's a chance it could bomb, but at the very least there'd be some form of profit.

    Duke is always going to be around as long as we the fans keep him around, but the fact of the matter is that no new games can be made without Gearbox's say-so. And that ain't gonna happen without some guaranteed cash. Foreseeable profit = new Duke game. Sure Randy might one day say 'Fuck it, if it bombs it bombs, I'm making Duke Nukem.' But I highly doubt it. Money is his motive, and there's money to be made with Duke, he just needs to OPEN HIS EYES and see it.

    Side note on the chance Randy reads this: Put in the effort to make a quality Duke Nukem game, not some half-assed re-release/throwing him into another game's remaster. An actual game, with Duke's attitude, big guns, babes, and alien dismemberment. Put in the effort and you will be repaid, I can guarantee everyone here would buy a new Duke game if an effort was made, and with Doom's recent success there's a whole list of newcomers who would grab it because it might look like Doom. Please, I think I speak for everyone when I say: Give us the real Duke back!
  2. In Topic: Duke Being Put To Pasture?

    02 February 2019 - 12:54 AM

    View PostMrFlibble, on 02 February 2019 - 12:35 AM, said:

    If that were the primary motivation behind the new Duke game, I'd rather it never happened.

    You can't measure a game by its selling potential, despite what the industry might want you to think.

    What I meant by that is the fact that Duke hasn't been made, movie or game, because no one sees a profit since it's not something people talk about. That's the sad fact, but what they don't realize is that if they put the effort into make a solid game, it'd be a profit, simply because Duke's name does mean something, but no one talks about it because there's nothing new. Eight years is a long time to go without any kind of news, especially for a franchise that already spent nine years (MP to Forever) without seeing a release. When it comes to Gearbox, it's all about the profit, even if they manage to make a solid game, it won't be without their eyes on profit. If they make a solid Duke game, it would attract immediate attention from Duke fans. If it's as good as it should be, then positive word of mouth spreads, inviting new players. Plus if controversy does arrive, that would attract new players too (Think of how SJWs reacted to one line Doom Eternal.) Thus it should be a no brainer for Gearbox to make it. Profit shouldn't be the mindset for Duke, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be talked about. No one wants to take a chance anymore, the sad fact is that Duke is one worth investing in because, given the game is actually good, it'd be a good seller. Maybe not a huge success, but enough that Gearbox could realize the potential, and make another Duke game, hopefully just as good (or better), and maybe... just maybe the franchise could come back to its full potential.
  3. In Topic: Duke Being Put To Pasture?

    01 February 2019 - 11:11 PM

    View PostZaxx, on 01 February 2019 - 10:49 PM, said:

    Yep but you're not exactly wrong with the "purpose in life" part: they way I see it Duke would want to join the army because he wants to kick ass so when he's fired he feels like shit... but then enforcers and pig cops turn up and it's party time. :D

    Eh, yeah, but I was worried you meant a step further by having him a miserable, tired of life, kind of character. That's what bothers me. I think I've been ruined by reading too many concepts for Duke where the people say: 'We need to take Duke out of the 90's, and make him a tragic character.'

    Speaking of which, that's the term I've been trying to think of. I don't want Duke to fall into the tragic character trope, that's what really gets old.
  4. In Topic: Duke Being Put To Pasture?

    01 February 2019 - 10:44 PM

    View PostZaxx, on 01 February 2019 - 10:34 PM, said:

    Yeah, that's why it occured to me too really: Jon is 58 years old now so he wouldn't work well in a new game I guess.

    As for the personal struggle and all: I know, it's a trope really but keep in mind that it's Duke who's having the personal struggle so chances are he'd handle it differently. The idea is not that he should be miserable but that the story should have higher stakes than "fuck, aliens are ruining my fun". What I had in mind was something like he was in the army but he got court martialled, fired (for some shit like beating up a general or something = stuff that says that he doesn't like authority figures so he couldn't fit in really) and he's taking that badly. When the shit hits the fan he can prove himself and show it to the army guys that his ways are more effective.

    Okay, now that's not too bad. The way it registered in my head when I saw personal struggle was something along the lines of: Duke feels he's wasting his life away on booze and women, and wants a purpose in life, then finds himself when the aliens invade and he's forced to take action.

    I actually like the idea of him being Court Martialled, fits with his character.
  5. In Topic: Duke Being Put To Pasture?

    01 February 2019 - 08:37 PM

    View PostZaxx, on 01 February 2019 - 07:56 PM, said:

    Why? What is it that you don't like?

    Duke should keep his red tank top, the other post suggested a red t-shirt... not too big a deal, but he's always worn a tank top. Duke doesn't have to have a character arc for it to work, make him a one-lining badass, instead of the douche he was in DNF. I also hate the 'personal struggle' trope that bogs down so many movies and games lately. It's cheap and overused. Duke doesn't have to have something like that motivate him, the aliens are fucking up his good time, that should be his motivation. Now I actually don't mind the hub idea, as I've mentioned it before. As much as I hate to say it... I agree there needs to be a recast. Jon is too old to portray the character correctly now, and we don't need a 40's-50's Duke.

    The main thing is Duke isn't the type of character to expand upon too much. Look at Dutch from Predator, we get to know enough about him to understand who he is, and what kind of character he is, but we aren't bogged down by unnecessary exposition/personal struggle arcs. Things can be in it that expand on Duke's character like Graves, with Graves Duke's military background and early life could be explored, make Graves an old family friend, maybe even father figure to Duke. Maybe add Bombshell as someone Duke used to be on a unit with, there could be some back-and-forth with them. There are opportunities to do it, without forcing in a personal struggle story. I'm rambling now, in short Duke's story should be something along the lines of: They spilled his bear, took his babes, and worst of all they destroyed his motorcycle/muscle car. That would be motivation enough for Duke, in my opinion

    I'm not trying to say everyone's idea sucks but my own, I've heard/seen plenty of great ones, but this one just didn't feel like Duke to me, mostly. Looking back I can see some thing I overlooked in my haste, like the hub, recasting Duke is Jon can't pull of the younger Duke, as well as the game taking place in L.A. Now with all this being said, I did enjoy seeing someone else's take on Duke, it's always refreshing to see what someone else could bring to the table, should they have the chance. Also, sadly enough, I know this would be better than what Gearbox would shit out... If I ever come off as rude with my opinions about Duke, I apologize, I've been a hug Duke fan for most of my life, being introduced around 1999 when I was only three/four, and Duke had a lasting impact on me. The character is very dear to me, and I hope we someday get to see him back on his throne. :dukeaffirmative:



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