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Prey Museum

User is offline   Altered Reality 

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The main page and the Screenshots section of the Prey Museum are online, at http://duke4ever.altervista.org/prey/ .
This site is dedicated to the preservation of all material that 3DRealms, Human Head or individual developers have ever released during the development of the game that came out in 2006, as well as the presentation of what is known about its development. Although the timeline mentions Prey 2 and the 2017 Prey game, they are not the main focus of the site.
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User is offline   Mr. Tibbs 

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Awesome, thorough work, Altered Reality!
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User is offline   Poorchop 

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Nicely done. Pretty neat to see some of those old screenshots, a few of which give me Quake vibes. I'm looking forward to checking out the videos when that section is done.
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User is offline   Zaxx 

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I expected more from this, guess nice sources of these videos are hard to find these days:


Also this.
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User is offline   Altered Reality 

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The videos are coming. But first, I'm gonna put online the concept art.

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This post has been edited by Altered Reality: 13 January 2018 - 10:55 AM

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And the concept art section is online. http://duke4ever.alt...eptart2006.html
Now, on to the videos section.

View PostZaxx, on 13 January 2018 - 07:56 AM, said:

I expected more from this, guess nice sources of these videos are hard to find these days:
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You seriously underestimate me. I've had the three 1997 videos since 1997, and the two 1998 videos since 1998.

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This post has been edited by Altered Reality: 13 January 2018 - 04:58 PM

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View PostAltered Reality, on 13 January 2018 - 04:57 PM, said:

And the concept art section is online. http://duke4ever.alt...eptart2006.html
Now, on to the videos section.

You seriously underestimate me. I've had the three 1997 videos since 1997, and the two 1998 videos since 1998.

Haha, I'm a pack rat too when it comes to stuff like this but I don't have videos that old. I think the oldest promo stuff I have overall is the first trailer for Star Wars: The Phantom Menace. :D

Edit: Oh scratch that, just found the 1998 DNF trailer on my HDD in glorious mpg. :D

This post has been edited by Zaxx: 13 January 2018 - 05:27 PM

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Well, the oldest promotional stuff I have is a 1995 shovelware CD containing, among the other things, the demo of Mortal Kombat 3 and the first Doom editor I could really understand how to use (WadAuthor, by John Williston).

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This post has been edited by Altered Reality: 13 January 2018 - 05:31 PM

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Videos section is up! http://duke4ever.alt...rey/videos.html
Next I'm gonna put online the Audio section, then the Files section. The Text Docs section will require more than one update because I really have a lot of them.

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Nice. Are you sure that mega is a reliable host though? After they were targeted in the megaupload days, everything disappeared. With a lot of these hosts, files tend to get pruned after a few years anyway.

Having the videos available for download is good but maybe a video streaming site like Youtube would make a nice additional option.
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View PostPoorchop, on 15 January 2018 - 09:42 PM, said:

Nice. Are you sure that mega is a reliable host though? After they were targeted in the megaupload days, everything disappeared. With a lot of these hosts, files tend to get pruned after a few years anyway.

Having the videos available for download is good but maybe a video streaming site like Youtube would make a nice additional option.

The thing is that these old videos are so compressed and low res that uploading them to Youtube would only ruin them.
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Well, it won't hurt to have one more option to view them. I will upload them to Youtube and do the same with the DNF videos.

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User is offline   DavoX 

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this link doesn't work, very interesting to see Prey story though!!

"More Prey screenshots are released in the Duke Nukem 3D CD."


This post has been edited by DavoX: 18 January 2018 - 09:20 AM

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View PostDavoX, on 18 January 2018 - 09:20 AM, said:

this link doesn't work

What link?

BTW, I updated the video section (http://duke4ever.alt...rey/videos.html ), and now most videos also have a link to view them on Youtube. Some don't have it because Youtube identified them as copyrighted content.

EDIT: if you're talking about the link to the video section, you're not supposed to copy it from the body of the message and paste it into the address bar. You're supposed to click on it directly: even though the text that can be seen in the body of the message has been shortened, the URL itself is correct.

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This post has been edited by Altered Reality: 19 January 2018 - 09:15 AM

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User is offline   DavoX 

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Nah just the part that shows screenshots in the Duke nukem 3d CD.
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User is offline   Altered Reality 

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Okay, now it works. You could already access the page though, by clicking on the Screenshots button or link, and then clicking 1996.

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User is offline   Poorchop 

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Thanks for the upload. Youtube's copyright system is so bogus. Would unlisting the videos allow you to upload them?

The Human Head talks about Prey in 2005 video is the perfect showcase of the game's features from the gravity mechanics to the outdoor areas with the backdrop of Earth in the distance. It's pretty cool for me as someone who played this only recently to hear what the developers had to say about it because it otherwise seemed like it was largely forgotten to time.
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View PostPoorchop, on 20 January 2018 - 06:43 AM, said:

Thanks for the upload. Youtube's copyright system is so bogus. Would unlisting the videos allow you to upload them?

Technically I can upload them, but I still get the "copyrighted content" notice. For Youtube, it doesn't matter whether other people can search for a video or not, only whether it is present in its servers.

Anyway, with the Waybackmachine I've been able to discover some more events in the development of Prey, as well as the Quake 1 map sent by Martin Goedke to 3DRealms, which led them to hire him as a level designer for Prey and which I will upload together with the Files section. I've also found more screenshots and concept art I completely forgot about until now.
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The audio page is online. http://duke4ever.alt...prey/audio.html
I have purposely avoided to upload any file from the Prey soundtrack, because it's still for sale.

Next will be the Files section.

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The Files section is online! http://duke4ever.alt...prey/files.html
There's a lot in it, including two files I originally believed to be lost (two Quake maps that got John Anderson and Martin Goedtke positions in the Prey team in the 1990s, released by 3DRealms) and one that 3DRealms actually wanted to be lost (a version of the Prey SDK that includes collision code).

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I tried to download the quake maps and I got 404'd.

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View Postleilei, on 05 February 2018 - 12:51 PM, said:

I tried to download the quake maps and I got 404'd.

Oops, the URL did not point to the right directory. Now the links work.

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2017: On May 5, the Prey reboot is released worldwide. The game was only named Prey for copyright reasons: had Bethesda not released any game with that name before the end of 2017, the rights to the IP would have reverted to Radar Group on January 1, 2018.

[citation needed]
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I uploaded the Preyweb to the Text Docs section. https://duke4ever.al...y/textdocs.html
More text docs to follow.

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I have uploaded all known Prey development documents to the Prey Museum. As usual, the URL is https://duke4ever.al...y/textdocs.html

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View PostHendricks266, on 19 February 2018 - 01:55 PM, said:

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2017: On May 5, the Prey reboot is released worldwide. The game was only named Prey for copyright reasons: had Bethesda not released any game with that name before the end of 2017, the rights to the IP would have reverted to Radar Group on January 1, 2018.

[citation needed]

Any progress on providing evidence for this assertion?
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View PostHendricks266, on 07 September 2018 - 03:43 PM, said:

Any progress on providing evidence for this assertion?

Unfortunately not, and I don't remember where I had read it originally. I googled for articles detailing Human Head's struggles in developing Prey 2, but I didn't find the reference I was looking for, so I temporarily took off the statement. After I find a citation, I will put it back.

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User is online   Kennerado 

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Where did that Prey design doc come from? I've never seen that before, did Human Head release that? Also I'm assuming you took stuff from Lon's classic site:

http://www.matero.net/games/prey/
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View PostKennerado, on 13 September 2018 - 02:38 PM, said:

Where did that Prey design doc come from? I've never seen that before, did Human Head release that?

Our very own Mr. Tibbs "tracked it down" and released it. See https://forums.duke4...post__p__254026
It originally included .doc files in an old format which modern versions of Word cannot read anymore, so I converted those files to HTML with an online converter.
That's also where most of the pre-2005 concept art comes from.

View PostKennerado, on 13 September 2018 - 02:38 PM, said:

Also I'm assuming you took stuff from Lon's classic site:

http://www.matero.net/games/prey/

I gathered things from many sites, including Lon Matero's site, the very old prey.net and preyground.com (back when they were online, because Waybackmachine did not save most of the images), snapshots from the 3DRealms site (not 3drealms.com but apogee1.com, which included more Prey stuff), snapshots from the PCGamer site, Gamespot, the site of an old German magazine...
I'm still mad at myself for not saving the 360 degrees screenshots from the 3DRealms site in 1998, because "DNF is about to come out, so I'll care about Prey after that". Oh man.

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This post has been edited by Altered Reality: 13 September 2018 - 06:18 PM

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User is online   Kennerado 

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Incredible, thanks for putting all this together. I was always interested in what the 3DR developed Prey could of been.
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