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The Duke Nukem Movie?  "AKA: another bad video game movie."

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View PostAltered Reality, on 06 August 2017 - 12:16 PM, said:

Right. The word you're looking for is right.


Excellent idea.



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View PostAltered Reality, on 03 August 2017 - 02:09 PM, said:

I have a better idea. Have Captain Dylan eat peyote, and General Graves discover him tripping out in a toilet. Then General Graves chews him out, and Dylan insists that he was totally fighting aliens in the astral plane. "Look! There's one right there!" says Dylan, pointing to a doorknob. Then he tries to attack the "alien" and trips over his own boot laces. Graves instantly demotes him to Private, to which Dylan replies "You can take away my rank, but you cannot take away my dignity!" and promptly proceeds to faceplant into a cactus.


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Actually since Graves and Dylan showed up in the thread...

What the hell are they going to do for characters? There's really not a lot of cool characters in Duke Nukem's world. In fact there's a pretty significant argument to be made that the only character worth mentioning is Duke Nukem. General Graves is one-dimensional, Dylan is the most embarrassing sidekick this side of Ebony White, and the Holsom twins mostly exist just to die tragic deaths! Graves would be okay in a movie, but I actively want Dylan and the Holsom twins not to be.
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View PostAdekis, on 06 August 2017 - 10:55 PM, said:

Actually since Graves and Dylan showed up in the thread...

What the hell are they going to do for characters? There's really not a lot of cool characters in Duke Nukem's world. In fact there's a pretty significant argument to be made that the only character worth mentioning is Duke Nukem. General Graves is one-dimensional, Dylan is the most embarrassing sidekick this side of Ebony White, and the Holsom twins mostly exist just to die tragic deaths! Graves would be okay in a movie, but I actively want Dylan and the Holsom twins not to be.


There's no twins or doofus sidekick but there are these:

Ashley, Female EDF agent, Female senior EDF officer, Strip club manager, Steve the bouncer, General Graves, Gus the bartender, News anchor, An Assault Commander, Assault troopers, Pig Cops, Protozoid Slimers, 2 Original alien beasts, 2 EDF engineers, An EDF Weapons and gadgets specialist, Cocooned woman, Dr. Proton, Nurse Jenkins, Enforcer/Bounty Hunter, A Battlelord, Techbots and plenty of extras.


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View PostAdekis, on 06 August 2017 - 10:55 PM, said:

Actually since Graves and Dylan showed up in the thread...

What the hell are they going to do for characters? There's really not a lot of cool characters in Duke Nukem's world. In fact there's a pretty significant argument to be made that the only character worth mentioning is Duke Nukem. General Graves is one-dimensional, Dylan is the most embarrassing sidekick this side of Ebony White, and the Holsom twins mostly exist just to die tragic deaths! Graves would be okay in a movie, but I actively want Dylan and the Holsom twins not to be.

General Graves could be fleshed out to an authority figure with common sense, and paired against another authority figure who considers regulations an end in itself because of a fundamental lack in competence.
Dylan could be made into a character that acts out the worst suggestions written in the forums for the character of Duke, and suffers plausible consequences (including getting maimed or killed) to show exactly why those suggestions were bad.
What we saw of Doctor Proton in TDWCM could also be expanded: a transhumanist scientist with such a strong desire to overcome the physical limitations of the human body that he performs unethical experiments, and when (a federal court? The military?) stops him, he decides to declare war to the extant powers, to turn the world into an "enlightened dictatorship".

If your brain tells you one thing and your heart tells you another, get rid of those silly doubts and listen to your brain.
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View PostAltered Reality, on 07 August 2017 - 10:16 AM, said:

General Graves could be fleshed out to an authority figure with common sense, and paired against another authority figure who considers regulations an end in itself because of a fundamental lack in competence.
Dylan could be made into a character that acts out the worst suggestions written in the forums for the character of Duke, and suffers plausible consequences (including getting maimed or killed) to show exactly why those suggestions were bad.
What we saw of Doctor Proton in TDWCM could also be expanded: a transhumanist scientist with such a strong desire to overcome the physical limitations of the human body that he performs unethical experiments, and when (a federal court? The military?) stops him, he decides to declare war to the extant powers, to turn the world into an "enlightened dictatorship".



Good concepts. Now go and write a 100 page screenplay.
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View Postthe Machine, on 07 August 2017 - 11:00 AM, said:

Good concepts. Now go and write a 100 page screenplay.

Implying I'm not already doing so.

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View PostAltered Reality, on 07 August 2017 - 01:25 PM, said:

Implying I'm not already doing so.



Uh... Yeah, yes I am.
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View Postthe Machine, on 07 August 2017 - 03:19 PM, said:

Uh... Yeah, yes I am.



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This is some concept design for a scene in my script where the Battlelord is chasing
Duke and Ashley through downtown L.A., leading up to their encounter at the coliseum.

Attached Image: DukeAndBattlelordChase2.jpg

Here is part of that scene:


Cut to: LA City streets (street chase)


The monster truck skids left around a city street corner

Then, not too far behind them, the BattleLord flies around the corner into view directly behind them

The radio is Rockin' some killer tunes!

Duke and Ashley then take the next right

ReeeReeeReeeReee

The truck drifts around the corner as the tires squeal and grip the pavement

The alien still follows

Baawwaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Chooooooooooo!!!

The alien fires its cannon

Craaaaaack!!!

The pavement blows up just a few feet behind the monster truck

Chunks of asphalt fly into the air

Duke does his best to keep the trucks composure

The truck fishtails a bit

He then straightens it out

They race down the street!

Baawwaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Chooooooooooo!!!

Another blast from the alien flies just over the truck

Crasssssshh!!!

The blast blows a hole in the street about 20 yards in front of Duke and Ashley

Duke reacts as quickly as possible to avoid the hole

Debris falls on the hood of the truck as Duke cuts the wheel and avoids the giant pot hole.

Ashley looks out and sees the crater as the tires roll half on and half off the pavement

Duke again straightens out the truck

He then reaches for the grenade launcher on the floor

Duke: Take the wheel

Ashley slides closer to Duke to take hold of the steering wheel

Duke opens the door and walks out onto the trucks running board/step

He slings the grenade launcher over his shoulder and steps along the running board

Ashley fully slides into the driver’s seat and takes full control

Duke climbs up the bed of the truck and gets inside

He readies the launcher

Duke then presses record on his sunglasses/camera

Click...

Baawwaaaaaaaaaaaaa

The Battlelords cannon charges

Duke takes aim

Phooomp!!!

Duke launches a grenade

Before the alien can blast its cannon-

KaBooom!!!

The grenade explodes into the shoulder of the alien

Sparks fly from its arm mounted cannon

Ashley quickly approaches an intersection

Ashley: Hang on!

Duke turns to look at where Ashley is headed

Ashley cuts the wheel late and skids into a left hand turn

The truck slides around the corner

Duke loses his balance slightly as the truck skids around the corner

He loses the grenade launcher into the city street in the process, yet manages to hang on tight enough to avoid falling over and becoming Battlelord fodder.

Ashley then straightens it out


Cut to: Interior apartment


An old lady, sitting comfortably on her lazy boy watching the early morning news, takes a sip of tea

TV anchorman: We’ve had some small quakes this morning here in southern Los Angeles…


Cut to: Street Chase

Ashleys strategic turn psyched out the alien a bit causing itself to make an even later turn than Ashley

Duke regains his balance and composure as they come out of the turn

The Battlelord fails to come out of the turn as cleanly as Ashley did and crashes right into the side of the corner building of the intersection


Cut to: Interior apartment


Being that the old ladies apartment is inside the same building the Battlelord just crashed into, she experiences the aftershock

Some tea spills out onto her nightgown

She shrugs it off as a being a minor aftershock from the quakes mentioned just earlier by the newscaster

She shrugs and continues to sip on her tea


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Just in case anyone's tempted to tell me to write up my ideas in a 100 page script treatment: don't be difficult, I'm just playing "What if I was Boss of the World".

View Postthe Machine, on 07 August 2017 - 02:36 AM, said:

There's no twins or doofus sidekick but there are these:Ashley, Female EDF agent, Female senior EDF officer, Strip club manager, Steve the bouncer, General Graves, Gus the bartender, News anchor, An Assault Commander, Assault troopers, Pig Cops, Protozoid Slimers, 2 Original alien beasts, 2 EDF engineers, An EDF Weapons and gadgets specialist, Cocooned woman, Dr. Proton, Nurse Jenkins, Enforcer/Bounty Hunter, A Battlelord, Techbots and plenty of extras.
I definitely don't think that Ashley sounds like that compelling of a character with that description. An agent, an officer and a strip club manager could all be interesting characters but smushing the roles all together just indicates that she'd probably be developed in frustrating and contradictory ways, perhaps not unlike Valerian in his recent film disaster. Of course, I could be wrong.

Honestly, the fact is that Duke Nukem's entire world isn't really set up to sustain depth, and that works better in video games than in film. I don't believe Duke's ever had a meaningful relationship with any woman, at least not that I know of, and a lot of that comes down to the fact that we rarely see him doing anything with women but flirting, fucking, occasionally aiding against villains... Maybe he does have long, off-screen talks with the women he sleeps with, deep into the night about their lives and feelings. Maybe Duke subscribes to willful polyamory and not just sleeping around, maybe he's got very deep and abiding friendships-with-benefits. We don't see that though.

A possible solution, but one I doubt will be implemented, might be to give Duke a long-lost daughter who kicks comparable amounts of ass. After all, Duke has to have a couple kids running around out there. Having to connect with a young woman he can never sexualize but who has lots in common with him could provide an interesting emotional b-plot to the obvious a-plot of, you know, fighting monsters.

View PostAltered Reality, on 07 August 2017 - 10:16 AM, said:

General Graves could be fleshed out to an authority figure with common sense, and paired against another authority figure who considers regulations an end in itself because of a fundamental lack in competence.Dylan could be made into a character that acts out the worst suggestions written in the forums for the character of Duke, and suffers plausible consequences (including getting maimed or killed) to show exactly why those suggestions were bad.What we saw of Doctor Proton in TDWCM could also be expanded: a transhumanist scientist with such a strong desire to overcome the physical limitations of the human body that he performs unethical experiments, and when (a federal court? The military?) stops him, he decides to declare war to the extant powers, to turn the world into an "enlightened dictatorship".


I think Graves is an obvious candidate for giving a Nolan-style "Commissioner Gordon" treatment, and it wouldn't even be difficult. Contrasting him with another, more unreasonable authority figure could definitely be a good plot point. Here's a premise- Duke's officially a civilian, ex-EDF, but Graves consistently brings him in as a special operative and consultant on matters of planetary security. That's gotta rub someone in Geneva the wrong way! Maybe a brief court scene ending in Duke telling the other guy to "blow it out your ass"?

In regards to Dylan, I think your idea's way too meta, not to mention kind of mean-spirited. The studio would do better to discard and ignore unwanted ideas than to mercilessly mock them. Of course, that's assuming that they pay any attention to fans like us at all, which frankly I don't think they do.

Doctor Proton though- that's a pretty damn good idea! Now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure Doctor Proton is the most compelling character in the franchise. Here's hoping they bring him in and give him some depth.
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Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to paint Duke as some hopeless romantic, I just feel that having a female character like her would give the woman audience someone to relate to and fantasize about being.

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A possible solution, but one I doubt will be implemented, might be to give Duke a long-lost daughter who kicks comparable amounts of ass. After all, Duke has to have a couple kids running around out there. Having to connect with a young woman he can never sexualize but who has lots in common with him could provide an interesting emotional b-plot to the obvious a-plot of, you know, fighting monsters.


I like that idea.
I do view my story as a sequel, when Duke is older. Whether or not it's at a time in his life where he finally meets a chick he might want to have a family with, who trumps all other chicks he has met up until that point, Or, it's at a time where he finds out he has a daughter, either scenario would introduce Duke to a life filled with more responsibility, more personal responsibility to ultimately something much more important than his work/job and that would of course be a family. Yet I think Duke understands too, that he can't save EVERYONE. Even though he wishes he could.
I see the first films scenario where Duke is a party animal, maybe even the bouncer at a strip club before he is recruited by Graves to help the EDF. In a story about what? That I don't have, but I'm thinking something resembling the first 2 Duke games, or maybe even something like Zero Hour (or Escape from New York).

Anyway, here's the scene where Duke is getting a lap dance from Ashley who then realizes she just fallen in love with the big fella:

Cut to: Strip Club, night (Ashley’s shift)


Ashley is busy getting ready for her shift when the club director pops his head into the dressing room.

Manager: Ashley, Candy is a no show, you're up tonight.

Ashley sighs and then reluctantly puts on her proper attire...


Cut to: Lap dance room


Duke sits inside a lap dance room, patiently waiting, drinking a Fosters Beer.

The music starts and Ashley enters the room through a curtain and begins to do her thing.

After a few minutes, things turn hot and heavy and Duke finds himself being turned on like never before.

Ashley gets closer to Duke and the two are now face to face.

Duke: You're not Candy...

Ashley: Nope, why? You like Candy?

Duke: Nah, she's a bit too sweet for me?

Ashley: Well, I'm Ashley, and only semi-sweet...

Duke: Ashley…Hmm, I like it. Doesn’t sound like a stripper’s name though.

Ashley: Well, I’m not exactly a... and it IS my name…My real name that is.

The situation heats up and Ashley begins to find Duke more desirable than anyone else she has “danced” for before him.

Ashley: You’re Duke, right? I’ve heard you were some sort of cop or something.

Duke: …Or something

Ashley: Yeah, I’ve seen you around here before

Ashley then turns her back to Duke and hovers over him, lunges back and flips her hair back

Duke was busy taking a sip of beer as she does this and some of her hair gets into Duke's mouth.

He brushes her hair away

Duke then smells her beautiful hair as their necks “lock” in a subtle embrace.

While ignoring strip club etiquette, Duke touches Ashley and grabs her hips.

Ashley then flips around to face him once again and throws her arms around his neck

She lifts Dukes glasses and stares directly into his eyes

The two find themselves connecting on a level completely new to them both.

(HAS ASHLEY FALLEN IN LOVE!?
Duke has certainly never entertained the notion and Ashley pretty much believes all men are the same and doesn’t even trust her own father or brother. Ashley is a stripper and strippers have issues… Although, so does everyone and Duke is no Exception)

Ashley stares into Dukes eyes...

Then...

With Dukes hands still on Ashleys hips, Ashley begins to go in for a kiss.

However, as they do, their actions alert one of the bouncers.

The bouncer flings open the curtain and enters the room in an attempt to interrupt the two lovers.

Duke is alerted to the bouncer’s presence and senses his aggression.

Duke reacts in his own special way, in order to diffuse the situation, by reaching for his side arm

Duke whips out his handgun and points it at the Hulking bouncer.

The bouncer reacts by raising his arms to the sky and backing off
Ashley quickly turns to react, looks back at Duke in shock and awe, and then acknowledges the bouncer.

Ashley jumps off Duke and approaches the bouncer to stop him

Ashley: Whoa, it’s cool Steve … He’s, He's a cop...

Duke slowly holsters his weapon

Ashley: Steve, it's cool... He's with me.

Steve the bouncer backs off and walks out through the curtain

Ashley then turns to Duke and with tears in his eyes reaches back with her hand and then...

SMACK!!!

She lays a giant slap right in the side of Duke's face.


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View Postthe Machine, on 08 August 2017 - 03:19 PM, said:

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to paint Duke as some hopeless romantic, I just feel that having a female character like her would give the woman audience someone to relate to and fantasize about being.
Oh, I didn't mean that to show Duke engaging with friends and lovers would be untrue to the character, although it might be. My point was more like "Duke needs to be able to engage with friends and lovers in order to survive in a Hollywood movie."



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I like that idea.
I do view my story as a sequel, when Duke is older. Whether or not it's at a time in his life where he finally meets a chick he might want to have a family with, who trumps all other chicks he has met up until that point, Or, it's at a time where he finds out he has a daughter, either scenario would introduce Duke to a life filled with more responsibility, more personal responsibility to ultimately something much more important than his work/job and that would of course be a family.
Personally I think Duke is too much of a hedonist to settle down willingly, and I don't think I see him ever wanting to be a husband or father. That's part of why my imaginary scenario involves him connecting with an adult daughter he's never met. He does have a familial obligation toward her, but he doesn't have to be responsible for her. The plot would involve the two of them awkwardly struggling to relate to each other and finally learning how to do that in a way that doesn't disrupt either of their lifestyles, but allows each of them to go forward in their beliefs with renewed confidence.

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Yet I think Duke understands too, that he can't save EVERYONE. Even though he wishes he could.
I absolutely agree with that. That's why he says "damn" if he shoots a woman kidnapped by the invaders in Duke Nukem 3D. He regrets that he can't save them.


As for your script, I think there's a great character bit in the fact that Duke's first resort is violence and he pays for it, but I just didn't buy the love angle. Duke Nukem isn't about to fall in love over the course of a lap dance and neither is a professional stripper.

Furthermore, I think the fact that Ashley works reasonably well as a working class stripper helps my point that making her a stripper and an EDF agent and a senior officer is just too much for one character. I like her obvious working class background- shades of Rose Tyler! - but I think that ought to be emphasized over either a potential romance with Duke or any secret agent stuff.
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