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Shadow Warrior betas released!

User is online   Hendricks266 

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  #421

View PostFrenkel, on 29 July 2017 - 02:19 PM, said:

Those images are in NINJA.DAT?
They don't show up in the game.

Yep, they sure are.

View PostFrenkel, on 29 July 2017 - 02:19 PM, said:

I've disassembled NINJA.EXE to see which keys you can press on your keyboard and I couldn't find a fire-key.
It does set a bit from 0 to 1 when you press Enter one time and it stays 1, but I don't know what this bit does.

Very cool, thanks for looking into this.

View PostFrenkel, on 29 July 2017 - 02:19 PM, said:

BTW Hendricks266 do you have Cybertank and does it use the same file formats as Monster Bash, Scubaventure, Realms of Chaos beta and this Shadow Warrior prototype?

Yes it does, both in terms of the DAT container and the file types inside. In-game it's clearly based on the same engine too.
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User is online   Hendricks266 

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  #422

View PostK1n9_Duk3, on 28 July 2017 - 02:47 PM, said:

Since there are 4 parts, I would assume it's interleaved. Many Mode-X VGA games (Wolf3D, Hocus Pocus, Realms of Chaos) store image data in four planes to make copying the data into the 4 VGA planes easier.

Malvineous took another look and this indeed seems to be the case:

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A section on the file formats is now available on his wiki.
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#423

For the record, your custom 950908 EXE doesn't run on any DOS machine I've tested it with yet, guess I'll have to use DOSBox for that one.

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User is online   Hendricks266 

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Interesting. I compiled it in DOSBox, so maybe that's the problem. I also don't recall doing anything with DOS/4GW, and I'm not sure if that happened automatically. How far does it get? Do you see the "****** CUSTOM EXE BUILT 20170714 FROM 19951031 SOURCES FOR 19950908 BETA ******" message? Does DOS/32A help?
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#425

I took screen captures of the error conditions;

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DOS extenders (and other commonly used stuff like mouse drivers, which I didn't have loaded as I have no need for it here) are always within the scope of my PATH anyway.

I wouldn't worry about it anyway, it was just a note in case anyone else ran into it, hence I didn't bother to write detailed system specs.

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This post has been edited by High Treason: 31 July 2017 - 11:53 AM

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#426

Interestingly, PCem (latest mainline) also has a crash with it in pure DOS on 486 (SiS497) and Pentium (Advanced/EV). Other builds before and after work. 430VX Pentiums work.

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That's kind of interesting, especially the chipset notes regarding the 430VX; Only the Pentium II uses an Intel chipset, the i440BX, both the P66 and K5 use SiS 5XXX chipsets. The Pentium II is also the only system with ATI video, the P66 and K5* use a Trio 64V+ and Virge 325 respectively - essentially the same 2D core, both Diamond Stealth cards, both also have MVP boards installed. Sound cards vary greatly, from YMF744 to PAS16/Maui to Terratec Maestro (The one in this demo) though I did try disabling sound in the Setup menu, knowing Apogee's audio drivers were generally poor at best and are often a source of problems like this.

* The K5 previously used a Mach 64 card, though replacing this for testing would probably be pointless as the 2D core of the Rage is basically just a Mach 64 anyway.

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This post has been edited by High Treason: 31 July 2017 - 02:26 PM

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  #428

Sorry about this, guys. No idea if the crash is caused by my modifications, the original source itself, or a mismatch between the Watcom I used (10.6) and whatever the devs used at the time in question. I'm unlikely to spend any effort on tracking this down. I would much rather spend any such time picking the AEGIS lock.
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#429

Just a few more notes about the prototypes, leaving the rest for the readers as usual:
- During the last month, there have been some updates at TCRF (5 prototypes are still not covered as of typing this): https://tcrf.net/Pro..._Warrior_(1997)
- If you have difficulty with locating cheat codes, maybe pressing on 'F1' can give you a hint. This applies to sw950908 (with custom SW951031.EXE build) and sw960611.
- For cheat codes in builds later than sw960611, this might assist: https://forums.duke4...002#entry277002
- In sw950210, the "2D Zoom in" functionality (as observed in SETUP.EXE and SW950115.EXE) was re-purposed for top-down map view. The "KP Enter" key can be used with the prototype, as retrieved from Steam. (btw, I think that "2D Zoom in" and "2D Zoom out" are more-or-less swapped in SW950115, compared to the descriptions in SETUP.EXE.)
- Don't expect the early '94 and '95 prototypes to feel exactly like LameDuke. They're more-or-less barebones, with a lot of work still not being done by then. In certain ways, they may remind you of Ken-Build, or Legend of the Seven Paladins (or possibly some other early Build-based title).
- The later SW950908 prototype (with the custom SW951031.EXE file) should actually feel way more like these 96 builds, but it's still clear that it's an earlier build. For instance, there are virtually no sound effects, and the remaining few... I shall let you figure these out, heh.


This post has been edited by NY00123: 19 September 2017 - 11:32 AM

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#430

The 97 proto has bots. They're slow and dumb but have some hilarious attempts at chatting (i.e. "Human's suck").

There's a 3d Realms office easter egg in Airport on the August 96 proto. Don't know if that was mentioned before or not.

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This post has been edited by leilei: 19 September 2017 - 02:21 PM

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#431

Not one, but FOUR new prototypes have been documented on TCRF.

https://tcrf.net/Pro...type_1993-09-16
https://tcrf.net/Pro...type_1995-09-08
https://tcrf.net/Pro...type_1996-06-11
https://tcrf.net/Pro...type_1996-06-27

Enjoy!
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#432

Fucking awesome man, all those details, mustīve taken a shitload of time to make!
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#433

All of the SW prototypes are now documented. Here are the last few pages that needed to be done.

August 1996
November 1996
April 1997

This post has been edited by MYHOUSE.MAP: 08 October 2017 - 08:09 PM

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User is online   Hendricks266 

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  #434

Excellent work.

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The Female Warrior and Zilla are nowhere to be found in this prototype. Considering how close this prototype is to the final game, they must've been very, very late additions to the game.

Indeed. Among the source code backups, GIRLNINJ.C appears on 1997-05-29 (previous backup 1997-05-19) and ZILLA.C appears on 1997-07-10 (previous backup 1997-07-08).
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#435

Is it ever explained anywhere what these things are supposed to be?

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The article mentioned it was part of the Battleship/Yamato level, but it doesn't fit the rest of the game (although it does fit that genetic engineering plot that earlier versions had). Are there more to the levels than meets the eye?
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View PostPikaCommando, on 08 October 2017 - 10:06 PM, said:

Is it ever explained anywhere what these things are supposed to be?

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The article mentioned it was part of the Battleship/Yamato level, but it doesn't fit the rest of the game (although it does fit that genetic engineering plot that earlier versions had). Are there more to the levels than meets the eye?


You misread. The point is that the creature textures are a part of the "BIOLOGICAL HAZARD" texture set found in Battleship, but don't actually show up in that map at all in any form.
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#437

The 1.0 / 1.1 shareware versions could probably be covered too, they're a bit on the early side (May 97)

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