Duke Nukem 3D Three Main Expansion Packs "DC, Caribbean, and Nuclear Winter"
#1 Posted 08 March 2017 - 02:40 PM
I get the impression Nuclear Winter is supposed to be the crappy one. Is that correct?
#2 Posted 08 March 2017 - 02:42 PM
#3 Posted 08 March 2017 - 09:37 PM
Caribbean is a lot of fun. I don't really care for the weapon replacements and all that but it is still a lot of fun.
Nuclear Winter sucks because the first 2 levels are just modified levels from EP1, and the rest of the levels are poorly designed, but some of the maps do have to fun moments.
#4 Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:32 AM
#5 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:34 AM
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#6 Posted 09 March 2017 - 10:42 AM
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#7 Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:17 PM
Carribean has a really great start. It has a novel set of changes to items, weapons, and enemies, and the new one liners from Duke are a treat. It is true that it loses some of it's gusto as it goes on, but there's still some fun shit to do in there.
Duke it out in DC... My God. Even by today's standards some of the levels on show are very impressive. The FBI, The Smithsonian, and The Whitehouse are just impressive as all Hell. The Smithsonian really feels vast and real for 1996. Really tip my hats to the guys at Sunstorm. They did a fucking amazing job on that one.
#8 Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:25 PM
#9 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:14 PM
Duke Caribbean is great and D.C is meh.
#10 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:28 PM
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#11 Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:37 AM
Overall, none of these episodes match the original ones (including AWO and Birth), but they certainly have their highlights.
#12 Posted 10 March 2017 - 02:52 AM
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#13 Posted 10 March 2017 - 04:17 AM
Master O, on 09 March 2017 - 06:28 PM, said:
Hendricks might have had a Nuclear Winter+ with a few bug fixes and compatibility changes but I'm not sure he still supports it. The content was relatively unchanged.
The real question would be, what's the point? As a base the original levels are terrible. You'd be better off making winter, Christmassy mods from scratch, and indeed that has been done.
#14 Posted 10 March 2017 - 06:10 AM
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#15 Posted 10 March 2017 - 07:13 AM
#16 Posted 10 March 2017 - 09:41 AM
NW really sucks... and that's too bad because Duke Nukem + Winter theme could be awesome.
#17 Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:11 AM
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#20 Posted 11 March 2017 - 07:14 AM
D.C. levels, while very faithful to the original style and has some amazing moments, ended up being way too open some times and made it more boring. I really wanted to like it more but Smithsonian usually makes me quit. Shame since it's one of the more impressive levels and parallels movie set (I feel like the whole EP is very EP3 in spirit) but it's just way too padded out and very open areas simply don't work well in Duke.
NW on the other hand could have been so much better, I don't mind the revisits but the whole christmas theme is kinda forcefully crammed and feels like a cheap cash-in.
At many points it does feel like a couple of 15yr old kids got together to make a tasteless "lol, christmas and dead santa" level product.
Some elements do work when it doesn't try to take itself too seriously and works out as a cheesy B-movie with a christmas theme.
To me, I don't really consider NW even in the same tier as the other two.
#21 Posted 11 March 2017 - 07:36 AM
- Adding new Duke talk to DC, NW and remastering Duke talk of PP and CLAB.
- Adding special Pigcop suits to DC levels (also to AWO levels).
- Adding of course new point lights to all the 3/4 extra episodes.
- Adding a new secret level for PP instead of Faces of Death, maybe done by Ian Boffin.
- Maybe even adding 4 optional choices for DC: Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump, with different political jokes.
- And of course adding new dev commentary by Bob Travis, Wieder and Ian Boffin.
OK, just stop dreaming.
This post has been edited by Nancsi: 11 March 2017 - 07:37 AM
#22 Posted 11 March 2017 - 09:21 PM
http://wiki.eduke32...._it_out_in_D.C.
Duke it out in D.C. CD-ROM: <CD root>\DUKEDC\DUKEDCPP.SSI