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Did anybody here ever stop to think how similar Duke and Trump really are?

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Saw this on a korean klimate kontrol forum awhile ago, it made me laugh.
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I see a much closer resemblance to Patton.
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View PostForge, on 24 January 2017 - 11:15 AM, said:

cancer

and if it isn't cancer, it gives you cancer:




Well that video made by Paul Joseph Watson.
According to *some source* he's an alt-right/far-right.
He's a conspiracy theorist for sure.
He attack feminism.. I don't consider myself a feminist (dunno if I'm one or not)
I'm for equality.

He attack the left and Islam, uses unholy garbage like his vid says.
+Lots of Muslim extremists in those countries are far-right / Nationalism, they persecute homosexuals, Christians, non-Muslim,
Even execute people doing blasphemy, burn flags etc.

I have some down views on Islam but I do not generalize all Muslims like Paul probably does.
Probably he support banning Muslim.
Not all Muslims support (above) +

Rather is banning Muslims, Christians, Jews etc.
I'm against it.. ppl have the right to follow religions as long they don't hurt anyone with it.
Every religions have flaws.

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View PostZaxtor, on 24 January 2017 - 06:27 PM, said:

Well that video made by Paul Joseph Watson.
According to *some source* he's an alt-right/far-right.
He's a conspiracy theorist for sure.
He attack feminism.. I don't consider myself a feminist (dunno if I'm one or not)
I'm for equality.

He attack the left and Islam, uses unholy garbage like his vid says.
+Lots of Muslim extremists in those countries are far-right / Nationalism, they persecute homosexuals, Christians, non-Muslim,
Even execute people doing blasphemy, burn flags etc.

I have some down views on Islam but I do not generalize all Muslims like Paul probably does.
Probably he support banning Muslim.
Not all Muslims support (above) +

Rather is banning Muslims, Christians, Jews etc.
I'm against it.. ppl have the right to follow religions as long they don't hurt anyone with it.
Every religions have flaws.

The time of watching people who stand for nothing fall for everything is over.

Those who wish to discuss political issues and world events, feel free to venture into the cpac or "honestly.. .." threads.
Wieder would probably enjoy some fresh flies to swat.
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View PostZaxtor, on 24 January 2017 - 06:27 PM, said:

Well that video made by Paul Joseph Watson.
According to *some source* he's an alt-right/far-right.
He's a conspiracy theorist for sure.
He attack feminism.. I don't consider myself a feminist (dunno if I'm one or not)
I'm for equality.

He attack the left and Islam, uses unholy garbage like his vid says.
+Lots of Muslim extremists in those countries are far-right / Nationalism, they persecute homosexuals, Christians, non-Muslim,
Even execute people doing blasphemy, burn flags etc.

I have some down views on Islam but I do not generalize all Muslims like Paul probably does.
Probably he support banning Muslim.
Not all Muslims support (above) +

Rather is banning Muslims, Christians, Jews etc.
I'm against it.. ppl have the right to follow religions as long they don't hurt anyone with it.
Every religions have flaws.

You sound canadian
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I am Canadian and you?

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Judging by his typing, he's either french Canadian(Quebec) or some type of "new Canadian."
Both of which are just such a joy that English Canada has to put up with, lol.


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French Canadian.
English 2nd lang.
Don't worry I'm no Pequiste and I oppose PQ and Quebec separatism.

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View PostDacoolguy, on 21 January 2017 - 07:30 PM, said:

I know I just did.
They both have blond hair, they are both filthy rich, both are womanizers, they both have bad ass one liners, they are both interested in running for president, both love action and want to have the last word and they both claim to fight to save the world.
Trump never wears sunglasses while Duke always wears them.
Maybe it's a case of Superman and Clark Kent disguise?

Can anybody help me find more similarities between them?


In what way are Trump's one liners badass? He's got a few catchy slogans but they're hardly the same thing. "Give a hoot, don't pollute" is catchy but that doesn't make it badass.

The biggest difference between trump and Duke that instantly comes to mind personality-wise is trump's inevitable need to lash out when he feels threatened. If someone speaks up against him, it doesn't matter how positively trump spoke of them before; he instantly changes his mind and talks the person down. Does that not come across as petty and insecure? Sure, the man has a right to defend himself but his lashings out are so predictable and indiscriminate that it's clearly a sign of a psychological shortcoming.

Duke probably wouldn't care what people have to say about him, and if he did publically respond on Twitter he'd probably just brush it off and make a comment about how he's too busy sleeping with women to worry about it.

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You know, while I disagree with the choice, I understand why someone would vote for Trump against Hillary, but actually like or idolize him? Even ignoring his stupid policies, the guy is a pathetic manchild, ever saw his twitter tantrums?
And ple-a-se, don't tel me anyone here believes his infamous wall that won't be half-finished in his 4 years mandate and will cost a ridiculous ammount of money is an effective measure against illegal immigrants. The only ones to gain anything with it will be the construction companies. :rolleyes: And no, Mexico won't pay for the wall. You, american taxpayers, will.

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I just don't think he's that great at PR and is a bit of a blundering loudmouth. I don't idolize him, I don't think anyone here does. It was just a joke.
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View PostMusicallyInspired, on 26 January 2017 - 08:33 AM, said:

I just don't think he's that great at PR and is a bit of a blundering loudmouth.

PR is putting a facade on in order to convince you that something is better than it really is in order to entice you to engage with something you otherwise might not. You should be skeptical if not terrified of anyone that is good at PR, especially if they have authority. The better they are at PR, the more you should be wary.

People are so used to politicians lying to them they have no idea how to deal with someone who is instead good at putting out an initial "offer" which, for those who aren't good at playing the same game, puts the other side in a defensive position whereby he (or his staff) can then negotiate you back to the terms they really want.

If you think he's blundering you aren't prepared to begin to comprehend why he keeps obliterating everyone that tries to stand in his way.

If he's doing something that is making you angry or making you think he's a hothead... that's *precisely* what he is aiming for. He knows that people who already get what he's going for (or is up to even if they disagree) won't have that same negative reaction so he doesn't worry about them.

I've never in my life witnessed someone in the political arena genuinely work to deliver on their promises the way he has. I called him the Globalist's desired candidate before and I still think that may be the case in that they want to pull the rug out from under him and therefore us... but never before has someone actually followed through like he has so far and we're not even through with the first week. I admire this even for the policies I'm not in agreement with.

The best PR is actually doing what you said you would, because it requires zero "PR".

View PostLkMax, on 26 January 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

And ple-a-se, don't tel me anyone here believes his infamous wall...

You must hate the suffering poor in Mexico...


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True. What I mean is there's a certain level of eloquence of speech that he lacks, not that he cares. Or I for that matter. I know he's driving people crazy because of it but I'm not one of them. I'm only focused on what he does as opposed to what he says (which leftists can't get off of). But I am watching how closely he's sticking to what he does vs what what he says he'll do. Which so far he really is. And right out of the gate. It really is historic.


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View PostMusicallyInspired, on 26 January 2017 - 10:12 AM, said:

True. What I mean is there's a certain level of eloquence of speech that he lacks, not that he cares.

He's perfectly capable of it... but being more eloquent wouldn't get the effect he's aiming for.

Right now the culture is in a state where people who need eloquence from everyone around them in order to feel safe are in desperate need of NOT feeling safe... and the people who have been trying sooo hard to be eloquent in order to not offend need the pressure and fear of "making a mistake" released some.
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View PostErgoTheChappy, on 26 January 2017 - 10:22 AM, said:

He's perfectly capable of it... but being more eloquent wouldn't get the effect he's aiming for.

Right now the culture is in a state where people who need eloquence from everyone around them in order to feel safe are in desperate need of NOT feeling safe... and the people who have been trying sooo hard to be eloquent in order to not offend need the pressure and fear of "making a mistake" released some.


I'm not sure I agree that that's been Trump's goal all along, but I agree the end result being what you laid out is sorely needed.

EDIT: RE: Forge's video, I know a guy here who is basically a white version of this guy lol. Big, loud, and smart.


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View PostMusicallyInspired, on 26 January 2017 - 10:50 AM, said:

I'm not sure I agree that that's been Trump's goal all along, but I agree the end result being what you laid out is sorely needed.

Let me phrase it a different way.

There was a very brittle structure... a facade mostly... that existed and was supported almost entirely on eloquence (PCness), hope (wishes with no grounding in the possible), and a complete refusal to look at anything but the "positive" side of things.

This structure was wrapped around and taking credit for a population that had to self censor, continue to deliver on what's possible regardless of the consequences of the hopes of those who weren't directly dealing with the problems they wanted to see fixed, and stuck being blamed for as well as dealing with the negatives of everything *other* people were doing.

Trump had a goal to brush aside the husk that was wrapped around the people he wanted to lead. This meant making those who don't know how to function unless they feel "safe" feel very unsafe and thus utterly destabilizing them and putting them in a position where suddenly they had to start dealing directly with topics and people they had formerly been able to bubble themselves off from. It meant making the people he was aiming to lead feel comfortable again saying things (harsh truths) that need to be said, even if they can't do it eloquently.

He was(is) negotiating with the cards that are actually on the table, rather than the cards that he or anyone else may wish were on the table. The obliteration of PC culture and victim-bully mentality wasn't his end goal, but is a necessary part of the process.

A lot like Duke going in and kicking alien ass because nobody else has the balls, health, or talent with pushing the right buttons to pull it off.

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If people don't want to spend the next 4-8 years constantly acting like this...
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... then they have to stop thinking they are obviously smarter than Trump or are "better people" and start looking at every single action he does, no matter how trivial, and ask yourself... knowing you damn well have the evidence by now that he's been doing his game all this time for a reason and that reason has been working... "what is he hoping to gain by this?"

Only *then* can you start to even think about mounting an effective counter-attack/protest against him or his policies.

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I'm proud of the big black dude in that video. It was nice to see.
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View PostErgoTheChappy, on 26 January 2017 - 11:19 AM, said:

A lot like Duke going in and kicking alien ass because nobody else has the balls, health, or talent with pushing the right buttons to pull it off.


Nice. :)
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Scott Adams will explain Trump's DukeMatch tactics in a different way. He spawned in and went for the Devastator and Ripper first.

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Youíre probably seeing the best persuasion you will ever see from a new president. Instead of dribbling out one headline at a time, so the vultures and critics can focus their fire, Trump has flooded the playing field. You donít know where to aim your outrage. Heís creating so many opportunities for disagreement that itís mentally exhausting. Literally. Heís wearing down the critics, replacing their specific complaints with entire encyclopedias of complaints. And when Trump has created a hundred reasons to complain, do you know what impression will be left with the public?

He sure got a lot done.

Even if you donít like it.

In only a few days, Trump has made us question what-the-hell every other president was doing during their first weeks in office. Were they even trying?


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Ahhh shit... it's the Russians again!

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View PostErgoTheChappy, on 26 January 2017 - 09:59 AM, said:

You must hate the suffering poor in Mexico...

So since North Korea and Somalia don't have borders with the USA the people there must be overthrowing their governments at any minute now... oh wait, they aren't.
You guys elected a billionaire who managed to make a casino go bankrupt, I'm sure everything will go alright with America :lol:
Did I mention he's a climate change denier and even China is heavly investing in renewable energy now?

View PostForge, on 26 January 2017 - 10:38 AM, said:



When the woman comes, they don't discuss anything, just yell at each other. tsc tsc

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View PostErgoTheChappy, on 26 January 2017 - 09:59 AM, said:

If you think he's blundering you aren't prepared to begin to comprehend why he keeps obliterating everyone that tries to stand in his way.



There's a difference between obliterating everyone that tries to stand in your way, and lashing out at every single little comment or joke about him. Take the small hands thing for example. I'm not sure how it all started, but I'm under the impression that some comedian made a joke about his hands being small, and trump lashed out. Next thing you know, comedians everywhere are making are making jokes about his small hands to this day. If he'd just left well enough alone then it would have been buried in history and forgotten. The more trump whines about what people say about him, the more people are going to attack him over it. That's a story that doesn't end well, especially since he seems to be going out of his way to make enemies of most of the mainstream press.

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View PostLkMax, on 26 January 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

So since North Korea and Somalia don't have borders with the USA the people there must be overthrowing their governments at any minute now... oh wait, they aren't.

Let me know when it is going to be your country's job to fix those country's problems.

EDIT: And before you say "but 'merica has been interfering in other countries forever!!!" NO SHIT. Trump is trying to finally kill off ISIS (partially a creation of former administrations) and get us the fuck out of everyone else's business.

Are you suggesting you have a better read for the situation in Mexico than the person in the video? That the Mexican government isn't abusing Americans to prevent unrest resulting from consequences due to its actions? That Mexicans are as brainwashed from birth as NK, or as poorly educated as Somalians? Oh wait... the Mexicans have overthrown their governments before. But now the cartels and current government have a method of making the Americans carry the burden of their choices.

Or maybe we should just let them keep taking our women and shooting up our rides.

View PostLkMax, on 26 January 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

You guys elected a billionaire who managed to make a casino go bankrupt, I'm sure everything will go alright with America :lol:

We also elected a small time senator who hadn't done anything at all. And the person who was elected was up against a big time pay to play politician who was involved in taking money from nations engaged in extreme civil rights violations and got us mired in further conflicts with people we have no business fighting and was clearly gunning for direct open conflict with Russia.

Lemme know the next time you file for bankruptcy and come out ahead. Even Duke found himself in an electric chair and got out and kept wh00ping ass.

View PostLkMax, on 26 January 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

Did I mention he's a climate change denier and even China is heavly investing in renewable energy now?

Did I mention you hate the poor in Mexico? And you're pointing to China for an example of caring about the environment? Really? The US is not going to stop investing in renewable energy. Having more ammo is always a bonus, especially when you're a fan of the devastator.

View PostLkMax, on 26 January 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

When the woman comes, they don't discuss anything, just yell at each other. tsc tsc

Which woman? Many women said a lot of things to him. He made many very specific points about planned parenthood, about the actual effects of their behavior, about the nature of the media and education, etc. You try to speak with a soft voice when you're literally surrounded by harpies who shriek like Octabrains.

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View PostMicky C, on 26 January 2017 - 02:51 PM, said:

I'm not sure how it all started...

There's your problem right there. Why not try to research before you assume you can take his behavior and form a fully fledged judgement?



View PostMicky C, on 26 January 2017 - 02:51 PM, said:

...but I'm under the impression that some comedian made a joke about his hands being small, and trump lashed out.

No... one of the Republicans he was running against in the primaries made the comment. THAT was the bullshit.

Trump then took it and ran with it and turned it back against him. He flipped it in his favor and his base and those who knew what really happened ate it up because it showed how petty his political opponent really was being. He did the opposite of lash out... he owned it and shamed the person who started it in the eyes of everyone except those who can't put in a few minutes to check for themselves.

View PostMicky C, on 26 January 2017 - 02:51 PM, said:

Next thing you know, comedians everywhere are making are making jokes about his small hands to this day.

And he doesn't care because those he needs on his side know exactly what happened and those who think he's being absurd are so far gone in their bubbles they can't even bother to check something out before forming conclusions. So why bend over backwards to please people so lazy and instead invest in what works with the people that are actually going to help him succeed?

View PostMicky C, on 26 January 2017 - 02:51 PM, said:

That's a story that doesn't end well, especially since he seems to be going out of his way to make enemies of most of the mainstream press.

The mainstream press IS AN ENEMY. They are an enemy of you most of all.

You can keep thinking he's making mistakes rather than stop and analyze what he's really doing and start to grasp the long game he's been playing this whole time... but you're just gonna keep being this...
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View PostErgoTheChappy, on 26 January 2017 - 11:19 AM, said:

A lot like Duke going in and kicking alien ass because nobody else has the balls, health, or talent with pushing the right buttons to pull it off.

Scott Adams will explain Trump's DukeMatch tactics in a different way. He spawned in and went for the Devastator and Ripper first.

Or maybe we should just let them keep taking our women and shooting up our rides.

Even Duke found himself in an electric chair and got out and kept wh00ping ass.

Having more ammo is always a bonus, especially when you're a fan of the devastator.

You try to speak with a soft voice when you're literally surrounded by harpies who shriek like Octabrains.


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View PostLkMax, on 26 January 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

The only ones to gain anything with it will be the construction companies. :rolleyes:

... and the biggest one (Concrete Producer), in North America, is in Mexico :lol: Stock is up by 2.6 w0000000000000t :P
Luv Trump. I really do. :wub: :wub:

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View PostErgoTheChappy, on 26 January 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

Let me know when it is going to be your country's job to fix those country's problems.

Are you suggesting you have a better read for the situation in Mexico than the person in the video? That the Mexican government isn't abusing Americans to prevent unrest resulting from consequences due to its actions? That Mexicans are as brainwashed from birth as NK, or as poorly educated as Somalians? Oh wait... the Mexicans have overthrown their governments before. But now the cartels and current government have a method of making the Americans carry the burden of their choices.

It's not USA's job to fix Mexico problems, but the wall will not fix Mexico, USA or anyones problem, illegal immigration will still exist and Americans will end with a huge useless expense and a unfinished wall on its borders. That is, assuming congress approves the bills.

View PostErgoTheChappy, on 26 January 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

We also elected a small time senator who hadn't done anything at all. And the person who was elected was up against a big time pay to play politician who was involved in taking money from nations engaged in extreme civil rights violations and got us mired in further conflicts with people we have no business fighting and was clearly gunning for direct open conflict with Russia.

Both candidates sucked, I'm not denying that, and unfortunately I'm used to that in my country.

View PostErgoTheChappy, on 26 January 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

Lemme know the next time you file for bankruptcy and come out ahead. Even Duke found himself in an electric chair and got out and kept wh00ping ass.

I'd rather don't have the need to file for bankruptcy. ;)

View PostErgoTheChappy, on 26 January 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

And you're pointing to China for an example of caring about the environment? Really?

I'm pointing to a country that was the most polluent at some point and even them are taking official policies to "fix" the damage while Trump wants to deny a problem even exists.
Do you want America to get to this level before prioritizing cleaner enviroments?

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View PostErgoTheChappy, on 26 January 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

The US is not going to stop investing in renewable energy.

But Trump might make it easier for polluting industries to work with reduced or removed regulations.

View PostErgoTheChappy, on 26 January 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

Which woman? Many women said a lot of things to him. He made many very specific points about planned parenthood, about the actual effects of their behavior, about the nature of the media and education, etc. You try to speak with a soft voice when you're literally surrounded by harpies who shriek like Octabrains.

The first one, I didn't want to see a pointless yell contest so I just closed the video after a while.

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This should be on the front page of this site. :lol:

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View PostLkMax, on 26 January 2017 - 05:27 PM, said:

...(literally nothing)...



View PostLkMax, on 26 January 2017 - 05:27 PM, said:

The first one... ...so I just closed the video after a while.

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Nice counter-arguments. :lol:
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Is a russian puppet:
[   ] Duke Nukem
[ X ] Trump

Runs a successful cassino:
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Saved the world all by himself:
[ X ] Duke Nukem
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Fights actual aliens, not "aliens":
[ X ] Duke Nukem
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Is offended by anything (special snowflake):
[   ] Duke Nukem
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