Polymer still a bit problematic?

vitekr

#1 Posted 29 October 2016 - 05:18 PM

I have always just used Polymost ever since I discovered eduke32(64bit), because the last time I tried Polymer it was a bit of a mess and too slow on my system from then. I am on a big duke kick again right now, and im just wondering the status of Polymer currently. I am using the very latest version of eduke32+ the HRP and I notice Polymer does weird things, has weird performance.

I am just wondering, and its hard to find talk on here about it as most similar posts ive discovered via search are from a year or more ago, should I consider Polymer still somewhat not ready for the spotlight? I am fine either way, Polymost has been good to me for quiet some time. But polymer is real pretty... if its still problematic then I wont start the process of figuring out whats going on and making it work however.

neoacix

#2 Posted 29 October 2016 - 05:24 PM

Short answer: Polymer is going to be replaced by PolymerNG, which will be much faster (and probably even better in terms of quality).
But atm, the main developer on this project needs to rest for some time....

TerminX

el fundador

#3 Posted 29 October 2016 - 06:27 PM

PolymerNG will be much faster, but to say it'll be better in terms of quality is kind of a stretch, unless your sole definition of quality is how many pixel shader effects something has.

Micky C

Honored Donor

#4 Posted 29 October 2016 - 06:32 PM

Are you implying that it will be inferior to polymer in some aspects when it's finished? The only downside I'm aware of at the moment is that icecoldduke is uncertain about whether TROR will be entirely glitch-free. I'm hoping he can find some way to get it working.

Tea Monster

Polymancer

#5 Posted 30 October 2016 - 12:55 AM

Polymer at the moment is pretty broken, unless certain bugs get fixed, it's a mess from a performance and usability standpoint. Plus shaders don't work correctly for models.

If PolymerNG would work as advertised, and models looked like they should do, that would be a huge bonus. Last I heard though, icecoldduke was asking for us to fund his salary for a year to complete it, so don't hold your breath.

Micky C

Honored Donor

#6 Posted 30 October 2016 - 01:39 AM

Tea Monster, on 30 October 2016 - 12:55 AM, said:

Whoa, where did you read this? The closest thing I've read that he said something along the lines of instead of Gearbox writing their own renderer, they should have paid icecoldduke 3 months salary to finish polymerNG so they could use that instead. He didn't say he needed the money to continue working on it. He simply meant that it would take that amount of time and money to finish it when working full-time. That doesn't mean he won't work on it in his free time like he has in the past. Were you thinking of a different post, or perhaps a private communication?

This post has been edited by Micky C: 30 October 2016 - 01:40 AM

vitekr

#7 Posted 30 October 2016 - 10:30 AM

Thank you all for your input. Its not that it runs super bad for me, its more that its inconsistent. I have a fancy 144hz monitor with the blur reduction stuff, and unless something gets at least 90~FPS it causes major ugliness. Polymer, well, doesnt though in some maps it does. Also, just this morning E4M1 floors literally disappeared and became skyboxes for me with Polymer so lol maybe that is a cosmic sign that I should just wait for this NG before getting all fancy

How does World Tours 3d engine stack up? I have heard surprising little about it in comparison to Polymer/Polymost.

Also, I love anyone who does this kind of stuff. These games(classic games like duke/doom/quake and so forth) are the games that most modern stuff wishes it could be and the folk and communities who create and maintain sourceports and modern updates for classic games just because they love them so much and have the talents are some of my favorite humans.

This post has been edited by vitekr: 30 October 2016 - 10:33 AM