[keiron]

Back in the old days of Duke World I downloaded a level with lots of kinky artwork. Women in chains, dungeons and other creepy shit like that. I'd like to play it again but I have no idea what it was called. Any ideas?

[Jimmy]

I think you may be thinking of the work of Ricky Pierrot, maybe the maps Unholy or Erzsebet Bathory.

[Forge]

sounds like the right author
could be The Huxtler Inn

hard to tell. most of his maps were like that

[Jblade]

Yeah it's the Huxtler inn, I remember it vividly because I loaded the map up at first and thought "hey, this map is pretty damn well detailed, why haven't I heard of it bef- what in the ever loving fuck"

the bondage chicks, sure why not I'm no kink shamer.

The dismembered women and the gifs of them being pulled apart? nah, that's on you.

[CruX]

^^ Same for me with Unholy. I loved the way that map was detailed and laid out, but the custom artwork couldn't have screamed "I have mother issues" any harder if it tried.

[Jimmy]

His work is of a very high quality but yeah, the content is of such an extreme and obsessive nature you wonder if the guy has murdered anyone before.

[DavoX]

Necroposting here to make everyone aware that this user "ricky pierrot" has included in some of the maps the picture of an infant girl (can't be more than 4 or 5 years old). Erzbet.map also has a hidden room with said picture and the wording "amsterdam l*litas).

If anyone of the community ever interacted with this guy, it would be nice to make a favor to society and expose him for the scumbag he is.

[Sangman]

In that case should probably take down his maps from the various Duke sites and contact law enforcement (though the maps are so old I dunno if much will come from that)

[Forge]

DavoX, on 30 July 2021 - 10:24 AM, said:

Necroposting here to make everyone aware that this user "ricky pierrot" has included in some of the maps the picture of an infant girl (can't be more than 4 or 5 years old). Erzbet.map also has a hidden room with said picture and the wording "amsterdam l*litas).

If anyone of the community ever interacted with this guy, it would be nice to make a favor to society and expose him for the scumbag he is.

I thought we (the community) already had this discussion several years ago. Why is this thread even in the public section?

Maybe it warns normies, but it's also free advertising to the weirdos and for the person who made it.

[jkas789]

Yeah, I think I won't be touching this one. It may have a nice layout but I'm not interested in seeing that stuff.

[High Treason]

Right, that settles it, I'm voting this for next months 'Map of the month club' thing.
(But actually no. Please, no.)

[NNC]

I remember the maps were being rather interesting, and one of them were usung custom enemies (and Blood temple sounds). I’m all fine with this. I hate pedophilia as much as the next person, but this is is a video game, and creativity is above all. Besides, I only remember naked girls in torture. That one was sick, but who cares if the map is interesting. Nobody will become a mass murderer if he sees such content or kill babes regularly in Duke maps (like I do, because that’s completion).

[DavoX]

The Watchtower, on 31 July 2021 - 05:52 PM, said:

I remember the maps were being rather interesting, and one of them were usung custom enemies (and Blood temple sounds). I’m all fine with this. I hate pedophilia as much as the next person, but this is is a video game, and creativity is above all. Besides, I only remember naked girls in torture. That one was sick, but who cares if the map is interesting. Nobody will become a mass murderer if he sees such content or kill babes regularly in Duke maps (like I do, because that’s completion).

I invite you to read my post again.

[Forge]

if you're concerned ricky is still a satellite to the gaming community, he's probably hanging out at the doom forum or rheeesetera where they tolerate that lifestyle and have secret clubs that exchange material.
You know, the same group of people that attacked Ion Fury for a remote sector with a bad grabbag joke

[Sangman]

The Watchtower, on 31 July 2021 - 05:52 PM, said:

I hate pedophilia as much as the next person, but this is is a video game, and creativity is above all.

what the actual f

So user maps as a vector for spreading CP is no problem, but pigcops in space maps is where you draw the line, good to know

[Jimmy]

I've tried to track this sick fuck down before actually. It's not his real name I don't think and I couldn't ever really find out anything about him beyond the fact he was obsessed with pornography, rape, sexual torture and murder, vampirism, cannibalism, satanism, and pedophilia.

[jkas789]

I'm just not interested in that type of things. I'm a pretty vanilla guy.

Also I hate pedophilia with a passion. After treating pediatric patients victims of sexual abuse and working on villages in the south were they treat their sons and daughters as fucking tradeable coins I sometimes have the raging impulse to pull a Batman and patrol streets with a gun.

[Forge]

jkas789, on 01 August 2021 - 09:13 AM, said:

Also I hate pedophilia with a passion. After treating pediatric patients victims of sexual abuse and working on villages in the south were they treat their sons and daughters as fucking tradeable coins I sometimes have the raging impulse to pull a Batman and patrol streets with a gun.

I seen the same crap in Iraq when I was there for almost 2 years. I feel the same way.

[NNC]

Sangman, on 01 August 2021 - 07:28 AM, said:

what the actual f

So user maps as a vector for spreading CP is no problem, but pigcops in space maps is where you draw the line, good to know

Red herring detected.

Never said I ever supported retardation. I just remember those maps were being interesting, and honestly I don't even remember infants in there. I only played two of the guy's levels (almost 20 years ago), and said picture is in the third one. I don't like maps being took down, not for being steals (like Dogville), not for "using pigcops in space", not for being crap (Supa), not for using questionable content. Probably if I played that third map, I would have a different view on this. Disrespectful comment from you, so a well deserved red button.

[Sangman]

Downvote if you must, all I see is you defending the inclusion of pedophilia, so I don't really give a flying fuck what you have to say.

[NNC]

Sangman, on 01 August 2021 - 03:17 PM, said:

all I see is you defending the inclusion of pedophilia

Then start wearing glasses.

[Sangman]

Well if you're not doing that, maybe you should rephrase what you meant. Cause the quote I made looks to me like exactly that.

[NNC]

Btw. one of the maps I remember playing from him had no custom art at all, because lots of things were fucked, including octabrain replacement sounds. That was Unholy.

[NNC]

Sangman, on 01 August 2021 - 03:22 PM, said:

Well if you're not doing that, maybe you should rephrase what you meant. Cause the quote I made looks to me like exactly that.

I won't rephrase anything because those who know me know I have never supported any kind of retardation, and your cited post even starts with that. I even remember the discussion on AMC, and even said I found the tortured girl images are as bad too. But I also don't support cancel culture, and nothing should be took down, just because it had shit content in it, especially not the otherwise decent things. Honestly, those levels probably are perfectly playable without custom art. Just remove those and done and dusted.

[Sangman]

"I hate pedophilia as much as the next person, but this is is a video game, and creativity is above all."

You probably need to look up what the word "but" implies in this context.

But alright, so you're pretty absolute in your consideration that nothing should ever be taken down, even if the given content is illegal?

[NNC]

No, because supporting creativity is high priority for me. I don't like certain map styles (what you labelled as "pig cops in space") but I'm always happy to see them released. I'm very happy to see so many people returning this year for mapping, even if some of those are not my kind of taste. I also hated the EDFSB/Dogville plagiary stuff, and when people were just threatening others for hosting those maps.

I remember playing these shit levels once approx. 15 years ago where there was a discussion about them. I've totally forgotten even their existance since then, until of today. But I dislike the idea of taking them down because of shit content. Maybe removing the shit content is good, but that's all.

Btw. these maps are hosted on several sites ran by several people. Some of them are even reviewed and praised for their quality. I'm not the man running those sites.

[Sangman]

Just to be clear, so you can hopefully understand where I'm coming from - as is hopefully evident, IMO there is a limit to what should be allowed under the banner of creativity and the inclusion of CP definitely steps over that limit. Your disagreement with that clearly implies a defense of the inclusion of pedophilic content in games. I really don't follow your assertion that I apparently misread something.

I can only hope you're in the minority with that opinion. :-/

[NNC]

Sangman, on 01 August 2021 - 03:56 PM, said:

Just to be clear, so you can hopefully understand where I'm coming from - as is hopefully evident, IMO there is a limit to what should be allowed under the banner of creativity and the inclusion of CP definitely steps over that limit. Your disagreement with that clearly implies a defense of the inclusion of pedophilic content in games. I really don't follow your assertion that I apparently misread something.

I can only hope you're in the minority with that opinion. :-/

Implies to people who has something to hide and project them to others. I ignore your posts from now on. Bye.

[Sangman]

lol, ok

[Jimmy]

It would take like ten seconds for someone to remove the CP if it in fact is there.