[pmw]

TamDuke


Download: http://www.tamduke.kk4.fi/download


Duh.. I started this over 10 years ago, now it's time to let it go and publish it. So here it is.

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Instructions for installing TamDuke

- Episode requires Eduke.
- Download zip-file
- Extract zip-file under your Eduke-directory
- Now you should have Eduke\Tamduke folder, including pmw.zip, duke3d.def, etc.

- Start Eduke and choose "TamDuke" from the "Custom game content directory" selector.
- Enjoy.

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Misc info

- Use the classic renderer mode
- There are some huge detail differences between maps.. remember, +10 years of development.
- There are a lot of secret places, try to find em all.
- You wont finish this episode in 15 minutes...

Spoiler

- A walkthrough video:

Changelog

Spoiler

2015-12-09
Fixed corrupted sector @ pmw9.map
Removed the boss animation scene

2015-12-06
Fixed money issue with standard_jibs.
Fixed ending door @ pmw3.map

2015-12-05
Secret level bug fixed.
Thanks to NightFright for the report.

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Thanks to

Everybody here at the forum and in IRC. I could never finish this episode without your support.
Big thanks to Eduke team, they let me to do maps with 16384 walls...

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Please write bug reports, opinions, comments, etc into this topic.




- pmw

[Hendricks266]

Typical EDuke32 mapper.

[TerminX]

After hearing about this on IRC for half a decade or more, I'm glad it's finally done. Looks awesome.

[oasiz]

Grats on finally gettting this done!
I'll definitely check this out once I have time.

[Danukem]

This looks great and I love that it's based on real locations.

EDIT: I started playing this on CGS, and I'm enjoying it a lot. Right now I am on level 4, "KARUN PIMEE"

Construction and gameplay are both very good. I have only a few small complaints so far. There wasn't enough health in level 3 imo. It ended with a big fight involving many pigcops, and there was no health at all near the end of the level (unless it was in a secret which I didn't find). I started the next level with only 2 health, and still there was no health around. Luckily I was able to find toilet water lol. I guess I could have refilled that way in level 3 but it feels like cheating. My other little complaint is this: if you are going to include your own CON files, then you have to take responsibility for bugs that could easily be fixed with CON edits. Example: the player getting bitten by sharks through glass while walking past the outside of shark tanks. I felt like I was playing the Smithsonian level of Duke it out in DC

But these are minor gripes and it is an excellent episode so far.

[NY00123]

Finally this long journey is over. A bit doubtful we won't hear pmw's "interesting" sentences (over IRC) again any time soon, though!

I should really try this soon, even if not right now.

[FistMarine]

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[Danukem]

I had some struggles in level 4 due to it being very dark for most of the map. I know this was the intent, but it seemed excessive.

Spoiler

Then when the lights came on and all the respawns appeared, it just felt like a chore to fight through them. I appreciate the concept behind the level, but I feel like the pacing could have been a lot better.

Level 5 is a large, open, nonlinear level with lots of enemies roaming outside. I'm working my way through it, but I have resorted to save-scumming. I don't have the patience to carefully pick my way through enemies when there are so many of them, including lots of hitscan. The sheer size and number of locations in this level is impressive, but it's a slog. Time for bed.

[NightFright]

EDuke32 gives some warnings when loading pmw.con. It's probably nothing serious, but I guess worth mentioning.

In the states boss1dyingstate, boss2dyingstate and boss3dyingstate you are ending the code with an empty ifspritepal condition, like:

[...]
ifactioncount 5
  {
    iffloordistl 8
      sound THUD
    action ABOSS1DEAD
    cstat 0
    ifspritepal 0
  }
ends

I assume the "ifspritepal 0" at the end can just be commented out. The way you use it here doesn't seem to serve any purpose.

Also:
Can it be that if you exit the secret level, you are skipping a regular level?

Spoiler

I saw the secret exit nukebutton in PMW6 which leads to level 11 (PMW10). There, the exit nukebutton leads to level 8 (PMW8). This way, PMW7 is skipped. If you didn't intend it to be that way, I guess you would have to change the lotag of sprite #1709 in PMW10 from 8 to 7.

[Micky C]

Played the first level, seems like it's going to be some quality classic Duke fun. I'll check out more tomorrow

[ck3D]

looks way rad & OG as fuck ! getting a definite early 2000's user map-feel from the screenshots and videos. looking forward to trying this one out, will post my impressions later - congrats on your release

[pmw]

Thanks to all. Keep writing ideas and thoughts. And yes...the dark level is pretty annoying, but just wait until you reach the couple last maps.


And thanks NightFright, this was kind of interesting bug. I've betatested this for like million times. And, I actually downloaded a brand new Eduke and tested secret level ending, it works really fine. BUT! If I jump right into secret level (dnscotty 111), and finish the map, then it goes to wrong map. ?? I don't understand..but, the nuke button has now the correct number. And it works now as it should work.

NightFright, on 05 December 2015 - 02:23 AM, said:

Also:
Can it be that if you exit the secret level, you are skipping a regular level?

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I saw the secret exit nukebutton in PMW6 which leads to level 11 (PMW10). There, the exit nukebutton leads to level 8 (PMW8). This way, PMW7 is skipped. If you didn't intend it to be that way, I guess you would have to change the lotag of sprite #1709 in PMW10 from 8 to 7.

Keep on playing!

EDIT:

I uploaded an updated version to the website, with the correct ending in secret level.

[Jolteon]

I had been playing this all day today. I still haven't completed yet. but from what I had played so far, it's pretty fun. The levels have a cool design to them, like the cars, and buildings, it's awesome. Some of the levels reminds me of Duke it out in D.C. (Which is my favorite addon btw). There are some ambushes that i didn't expected, therefor, I did get killed from time to time, but I still had a fun experience to it.
Here are some screenshots that I took so far.




But unfortunately, I am stuck

Spoiler

In the 6th level (I believe), I'm in the top of the building where the helicopters fire rpg rockets at you. I've gotten the red key and inserted it in, and it opened up an area back in the beginning. There is also this four switch combination, and I did figured it out, but however, it seems as though it didn't do anything. I don't see the unlock message when I turn on the correct switches. The elevator doors won't open, and I can't go back from where I came from because that way is blocked off by the blue curtains. What does the switches do? I'm so lost.

Also there are a few things I would like to point out though. Whenever I save/load a game, I hear an enforcer. Also I noticed that when I load a saved game, the briefing music will be playing instead of the actual music for that level.

Either way, thank you for releasing this cool map pack. It is fun to play. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the levels.

[pmw]

Nice shots and nice to hear you like the cars!
However..sounds strange..

Spoiler

In the 6th level (I believe), I'm in the top of the building where the helicopters fire rpg rockets at you. I've gotten the red key and inserted it in, and it opened up an area back in the beginning. There is also this four switch combination, and I did figured it out, but however, it seems as though it didn't do anything. I don't see the unlock message when I turn on the correct switches. The elevator doors won't open, and I can't go back from where I came from because that way is blocked off by the blue curtains. What does the switches do? I'm so lost.

Spoiler

Four switch combination opens that metal gate at the roof top. Right next to the monitor(and red access card switch) where you can see the door opening from the beginning of the map.
What elevator doors are you talking about? And what blue curtains?

[Jaap]

Cool maps. I have to admit I downloaded them without reading and I was like 'what would tam stand for'. But when I saw the title of the levels I figured out it was probably Tampere (Isn't this near where they host Assembly winter?) :-).

[pmw]

Yes it is. All locations can be found from the city of Tampere. And yes, they used to host Assembly winter here(In Tampere..).
Actually, couple days ago, I was thinking of making a google map which shows the actual locations of these Duke maps. But blah,small country, small town, probably not interesting.

[Jolteon]

Spoiler

Ok, i see now. It works. But it was weird though. When I did the combination, the gate didn't lowered at first.



But when I flipped one of the switches again, it did lowered. Weird.



Also this was the elevator and blue curtains I was talking about.



Sorry for the confusion.

[pmw]

Jolteon, on 05 December 2015 - 03:38 PM, said:

Spoiler

Ok, i see now. It works. But it was weird though. When I did the combination, the gate didn't lowered at first.

duke0026.png

But when I flipped one of the switches again, it did lowered. Weird.

duke0027.png

Also this was the elevator and blue curtains I was talking about.

duke0025.png duke0024.png

Sorry for the confusion.

No sorrys:) all comments are welcome. And...

Spoiler

I see, buggy door
And..maybe combination thing was a bit confusing.. No hint or whatever..well, at least you can continue now.

And umm, that elevator is not supposed to work either. Neither those blue curtains. That's why there are that combination, so you can't just run, pick up the card and run away:)

[Tea Monster]

Loving this so far. Agree on the turn-of-the-century vibe, when The King was on his throne.

[VinsaneOne]

pmw, on 05 December 2015 - 03:44 PM, said:

No sorrys:) all comments are welcome. And...

Spoiler

I see, buggy door
And..maybe combination thing was a bit confusing.. No hint or whatever..well, at least you can continue now.

And umm, that elevator is not supposed to work either. Neither those blue curtains. That's why there are that combination, so you can't just run, pick up the card and run away:)

I have a buggy door in my map too but I kind of like the way it works. This looks like fun so I'm off to play a bit....

[Danukem]

Played some more and I'm still in level 5. Found and used the red key, found a bunch more stuff, but still don't have the blue key and it's not clear how to progress. Going around to previously beaten locations.

Yes, this episode has that early 2000s feel with solid construction (albeit not much lighting) and classic gameplay. Unfortunately, it also contains some aspects of old Duke user maps that I am more than happy to leave behind. Running around in a very large, open city map without a clue as to where to find the next key is one of those. I'll try to play the rest of the maps individually, at least.

[pmw]

Updated the latest version to website. Fixed money bug with jibs, etc.

And, I made a walkthrough videos, gonna upload those soon.

[ck3D]

pmw, on 05 December 2015 - 03:32 PM, said:

Yes it is. All locations can be found from the city of Tampere. And yes, they used to host Assembly winter here(In Tampere..).
Actually, couple days ago, I was thinking of making a google map which shows the actual locations of these Duke maps. But blah,small country, small town, probably not interesting.

I would actually love to see that ! I always find it interesting to see how people reinterpret real-life locations in DN3D

[icecoldduke]

I agree with TerminX looks awesome, great work .

[pmw]

ck3D, on 06 December 2015 - 09:26 AM, said:

I would actually love to see that ! I always find it interesting to see how people reinterpret real-life locations in DN3D

Well, I had some extra time and made it:
http://tamduke.kk4.fi/map

[sergey808a]

Great episode! Cool classic-style maps with unexpected ambushes with monsters! Thanks!

[pmw]

Thanks sergey.

I added a walkthrough video under the original post. Don't abuse it...

[NightFright]

I see in the walkthrough video that your episode ends without a boss fight. Since you placed the episode into slot #1 however, you will have the Battlelord cutscene playing. Looks a bit out of place if you ask me.

I recommend adding following code somewhere in pmw.con to fix this:

gamevar LOGO_FLAGS 4351 0

This will skip the Battlelord cutscene while still displaying the "To be continued" panel afterwards.

[pmw]

Thanks, I tried to solve that issue with no results,I got frustated and you can see the result.. I'll add the gamevar soon and gonna fix one bug from the last map..

[zykov eddy]

This is a damn good mod and one of the best releases of 2015. Very good levels, great gameplay, lots of cool ideas.

I have only two nitpicks:

1.Most of the secret places are hidden is the most cruel way possible, without even a slight clue how to get into them. One of the worst examples is a sewer secret in Vistokatu, you just have to take a wild guess on where to dive into poison water to find a hidden passage.
2.Monsters sometimes spawn right behind the player which can be really annoying.