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Honestly I don't even know what this thread is about anymore.  "Something about Wieder masturbating from the ceiling?"

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Now, I've been accused many times on here of being politically correct. Maybe part of it is my views on Gamergate. Or it could be the beef I have with some posters on here. While I admit to being a bit on the liberal side, I think that there comes a point when political correctness or sensitivity gets to a point where it's just fucking bullshit. Case in point: micro-aggression.

Seriously. Micro-aggression.

I didn't know about this until fucking earlier this week. I thought it was just typical SJW psychobabble. And it is, but... Well, just look.

Here's a quote from the link:

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Microaggressions are the everyday verbal, nonverbal, and environmental slights, snubs, or insults, whether intentional or unintentional, that communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative messages to target persons based solely upon their marginalized groupmembership...


Blah blah blah, you get the idea. So what's micro-aggression, according to these lunatic sociologists? Well, saying "Where are you from?" or "You speak English very well" or "I would never have guessed you were a scientist" is BORDERLINE RACISM AND SEXISM! ... I shit you not.

Come the fuck on! I realize this should probably go in the race/culture thread below, but it's stuff like this that really pisses me off and goes against my grain. Are people afraid to say anything to each other anymore?


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View PostSpastic Lagomorph, on 19 September 2015 - 07:28 AM, said:

Are people afraid to say anything to each other anymore?


Yes.
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I read and hear stories all year long about this subject and how it has permiated college campuses all over the country. White priviledge or students not allowed to use the terms male or female. Students having to defer to black students at the risk of their class grades.It has gone to such extremes. My liberal dad even shakes his head at this crap.

I looked at the link. Yep, thats the kind of stuff I have been hearing about for the last couple of years.

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Come on guys, try not to be too shocked. This is just the same old "history repeating itself"... you know, more laws equate to rate of decline. (because of the simple "less judgement = more laws etc)
Now is just a stage of decline on the stairs of collapse... every country or empire does it. :)
Few WANT it to happen, but historically, society or empire dies eventually, sometimes from war, but most often from moral decay... and Political Correctness is just one of a great number of symptoms of that.

All good (and bad) things must come to an end...

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Q: Given that morals are subjective what is "moral decay"?

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Thats a good question. If you don't believe in God and the 10 commandments ( or something like it ) then it becomes very hard to answer what morals are or what they are based on.

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View PostSpastic Lagomorph, on 19 September 2015 - 07:28 AM, said:

...Or it could be the beef I have with some posters on here.

Are you threatening me?
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View PostForge, on 19 September 2015 - 06:14 PM, said:

Are you threatening me?

I find that word offensive sir, could you please use "treating me in a hostile manner" instead of the T word. The sooner people stop using the T word the better.

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Man, as a New Yorker, I find those "microaggressions" disturbing. Yeah, fuck me for taking an interest into your culture. How racist of me for trying to appreciate something new and exciting! Fuck cultural Marxism. The ultimate degenerates are those who are so milquetoast they scoff at those who live their lives with an ounce of passion. Fuck these white people who want to eliminate my Halal carts and Chinatowns.

I think that a decent number of 1995 and later babies are fucked in the head. They've spent their entire lives being raised in a degenerate culture without standards, while simultaneously being overprotected from imaginary threats and attending schools that transformed into bureaucracies. I remember us Millennials being chastised for not growing up fast enough as teenagers, but we genuinely wanted to. We were never able to due to financial issues. We didn't have any means of independence because affordable car ownership was a dream of the 90's. This entire itch to catch up with our older peers has been with us for over a decade...and I swear it's not present in most of these kids at all.

That's the worst thing about being a Millennial. The itch. The itch you can never scratch. You grow up and the goalposts keep getting pushed further and further...it's awful. You witness teenagers in the 90's being free...and then you can't afford to in the 2000's. As people are hitting their stride in the 2000's, you dream, aspire to things, and plan out your adult life...only to have the fucking bottom fall out in 2008, ONE YEAR after I graduated, and now I'm FUCKED AGAIN. You keep trying to gain footing but there's always an invisible force causing you to slip, and it makes your body weak like a nightmare where you're about to be murdered and can't fight back. At this point you've realized no one will help us...we can only help ourselves but we don't have the resources.

And yet I swear to God so many of these kids feel NONE OF THAT. Their lack of cynicism is most fucking disturbing thing on the planet to me. So many of these college age manchildren have had their ass wiped for them since time immortal. Meanwhile I'm about to be 27 and I'm going to snap. They will do whatever it takes to avoid the realization that the world is colder and more unforgiving than ever - the very realization that forces you into adulthood, kicking and screaming...

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View PostMblackwell, on 19 September 2015 - 03:55 PM, said:

Also micro-aggressions are just a way of manipulating people into no longer speaking openly

Thank you. Rules that are excessively vague exist only so you can use anything as an excuse to punish someone for unrelated reasons.
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View PostMark., on 19 September 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

Thats a good question. If you don't believe in God and the 10 commandments ( or something like it ) then it becomes very hard to answer what morals are or what they are based on.

Dostoyevsky already answered this in Brothers Karamazov:

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Without god everything is permitted

along with many others similarly stating there are no moral absolutes w/o god. (moral nihilism)
Therefore giving no reason for a non-religious person to be "politically correct" in any form.
(besides the social standards that created "political correctness" in the first place.)

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That "Color Blindness" category is hilarious.

Race doesn't matter, but if you think so you're a racist!
If you think it DOES matter, then you are ALSO a racist!

"Myth of Meritocracy" is also a real riot, cementing the fact that these people do not want to see the end of gender injustice, but they rather want to see it tip into the opposite extreme.
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View PostPerson of Color, on 20 September 2015 - 12:43 PM, said:

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I hate how these useless fucks drag 'art' into this, making those of us who actually try to move forward and challenge our skills constantly look as lazy as their inconsiderate and useless asses.

E: ahhahaa why is Sam Hyde mentioned in that of all people?
For reference: https://www.youtube....onDollarExtreme

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He's referenced because that's a still from Kickstarter TV: Episode 3.

Also, upvoted for knowing who Sam Hyde is.

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View PostPerson of Color, on 19 September 2015 - 09:23 PM, said:

Man, as a New Yorker, I find those "microaggressions" disturbing. Yeah, fuck me for taking an interest into your culture. How racist of me for trying to appreciate something new and exciting! Fuck cultural Marxism. The ultimate degenerates are those who are so milquetoast they scoff at those who live their lives with an ounce of passion. Fuck these white people who want to eliminate my Halal carts and Chinatowns.

I think that a decent number of 1995 and later babies are fucked in the head. They've spent their entire lives being raised in a degenerate culture without standards, while simultaneously being overprotected from imaginary threats and attending schools that transformed into bureaucracies. I remember us Millennials being chastised for not growing up fast enough as teenagers, but we genuinely wanted to. We were never able to due to financial issues. We didn't have any means of independence because affordable car ownership was a dream of the 90's. This entire itch to catch up with our older peers has been with us for over a decade...and I swear it's not present in most of these kids at all.

That's the worst thing about being a Millennial. The itch. The itch you can never scratch. You grow up and the goalposts keep getting pushed further and further...it's awful. You witness teenagers in the 90's being free...and then you can't afford to in the 2000's. As people are hitting their stride in the 2000's, you dream, aspire to things, and plan out your adult life...only to have the fucking bottom fall out in 2008, ONE YEAR after I graduated, and now I'm FUCKED AGAIN. You keep trying to gain footing but there's always an invisible force causing you to slip, and it makes your body weak like a nightmare where you're about to be murdered and can't fight back. At this point you've realized no one will help us...we can only help ourselves but we don't have the resources.

And yet I swear to God so many of these kids feel NONE OF THAT. Their lack of cynicism is most fucking disturbing thing on the planet to me. So many of these college age manchildren have had their ass wiped for them since time immortal. Meanwhile I'm about to be 27 and I'm going to snap. They will do whatever it takes to avoid the realization that the world is colder and more unforgiving than ever - the very realization that forces you into adulthood, kicking and screaming...


As a Millennial myself, I can relate to this. The feeling of having the goalposts moved constantly, where you're trying to make 10 leaps forward, only to be another 20 behind. You want to succeed, be independent, and live a decent life, but like the proverbial carrot on a stick, you can never get closer to it despite how much you chase it.

2008 was a shitty year for me as well, it was when I was starting to find employment, only to have the entire economy take a nosedive and all available jobs disappear. I've only managed to land a 6-month contract job since then, and because of it's limited time, I was out of a job and out of funds yet again after that. I've been trying to pay a $680 rent, and a $120 internet bill on a $790-per-month income. Sleep, wake up, eat, worry about bills, bathroom, sleep, repeat is the daily life cycle it seems like. Monotonous and maddening.

Been going to college, I want to socialize, or perhaps find a lover... but the social environment is getting extremely toxic, to the point where it doesn't seem viable anymore. Everybody is too damn touchy and afraid to talk, let alone show compassion. Try to be nice? They look at you like some alien. Open a door for someone? You've committed a Micro-aggression. Try to be honest but respectful? Offended/Triggered anyway. Humor? Nobody laughs. Try to be there for someone who's hurt? They'll either lie or hide their feelings, then use their feelings as an excuse to abuse you later.

Sexually repressed, and want to feel loved, wanted, and desired by someone who isn't a total degenerate in today's society? Good luck. Apparently, as a male, your emotions mean nothing, and your sexuality, regardless if you're straight, bi, or gay, is an affront to humanity that must be hidden and silenced. At least, that's what a lot of people will try to make you believe. Either way, expect to feel soul-crushing loneliness, because you'll never be allowed to talk about what it is you're truly feeling.

What bothers me so much about that last bit, is that... there's tons of dumb-asses rambling about how they're bringing about the 2nd sexual revolution, while all they're doing is reversing all the good that came of the first revolution. It's getting to the point where there's more sexually repressed and mentally fucked-up people than there ever was before, as the topic of sexuality and sexual desire has become more socially inaccessible than ever if you're not part of some niche or specific social circle.

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The lessons I've learned is that life can be fucking unpleasent and many of the younger generation just won't be equipped to handle it at all and I have no idea how they expect to perform in the real world. The world is a big place and 90% of the cultures on it don't give a fuck what pronoun you are or what flavour of asshole you enjoy eating at the weekend.
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View PostStrikerMan780, on 21 September 2015 - 05:44 AM, said:

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Our generation has been raised in a bubble, protected from all dangerous of the outside world. However what you are experiencing is not the other people being assholes, but their own social awkwardness. They are like dogs who have never seen another one of their own kind, so if another dog (that is, you) suddenly appears and sniff their butts, they will bite.

View PostPerson of Color, on 19 September 2015 - 09:23 PM, said:

And yet I swear to God so many of these kids feel NONE OF THAT. Their lack of cynicism is most fucking disturbing thing on the planet to me. So many of these college age manchildren have had their ass wiped for them since time immortal. Meanwhile I'm about to be 27 and I'm going to snap. They will do whatever it takes to avoid the realization that the world is colder and more unforgiving than ever - the very realization that forces you into adulthood, kicking and screaming...

They are way more cynical than you think, at least on an emotional level, they just won't openly express it. And they don't have to, since the Internet is there to rant about all the problems in your life.

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I was born in the 60s and came of age in the 80s. I don't know what the fuck that makes me. Star Wars Generation? Good grief.

From what my parents were saying,and my life as an adult in the '90s. I can assure you that things were not all honey and clover back then.

All this crap with political correctness is very much like religion. A few people proclaim to have some inside track or greater knowledge and use this as a mandate to enforce their ideals on others. It's just like the Church. Read your history. Now that God is going out of fashion, they have to find avenues of psychological 'enlightenment' instead of religion to be held up as a beacon by the masses.

One of the scariest moments in my life was in a High School library. I was talking to one of the kids in my class and I let slip that I didn't go to church. He turned to me and asked me, in perfect seriousness "How do you stop yourself from killing people then?". I just stared back at him. Just the thought of there being dozens, maybe even thousands of people out there who's only check and balance from murder is that "God will get them" if they do it is terrifying.
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Well, if one wants to avoid hurting the feelings of others, the other then may no longer know if they have feelings or not. It's the flaw of any extreme doctrine, is that it's extreme.

I grew up, who cares when. I associate with like minded people, and some are half my age. I hate racists; but I prefer them to be out in the open. The PC wave is not changing racists and bigots from within, only forcing them to shut up.

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View PostTea Monster, on 21 September 2015 - 10:42 AM, said:

He turned to me and asked me, in perfect seriousness "How do you stop yourself from killing people then?".

I don't think he was saying that religion was the only thing stopping him from murdering other people. More like he was questioning your morals.

View PostHank, on 21 September 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

The PC wave is not changing racists and bigots from within, only forcing them to shut up.

I guess then you don't read the comments section in YouTube.
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View PostFox, on 21 September 2015 - 11:54 AM, said:

I guess then you don't read the comments section in YouTube.


Correct, I am talking real life, not the internet

http://www.sjto.gov.on.ca/hrto/

All you need is one stupid comment and you pay dearly for what ever PC says is wrong to have said.

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View PostForge, on 19 September 2015 - 06:14 PM, said:

Are you threatening me?


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View PostHank, on 21 September 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

The PC wave is not changing racists and bigots from within, only forcing them to shut up.

It also has the effect of shutting up people sincerely trying to address the problems of minorities. You first have to identify the problem before fixing it and identifying it gets you the wrath of the PC crowd ( and race hustlers )

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View PostMark., on 22 September 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

It also has the effect of shutting up people sincerely trying to address the problems of minorities. You first have to identify the problem before fixing it and identifying it gets you the wrath of the PC crowd ( and race hustlers )

No shit. :)

The way I see it, looking back for the last 30 years. First there was an unwritten tolerance present, not perfect but everyone could make a living. No laws and no one to to say to you you must accept and embrace the 'other'. Along came the intellectuals and wrote eloquent essays on how things ought to be, to make it perfect. Government seeing an opportunity to be the good doers incorporated those concepts into laws. End result: being just tolerant is no longer enough. :)

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I heard a story today that someone hung up signs at campus bathrooms that said " Whites Only". After the usual outrage and trauma suffered by the students we find out those signs were hung by a young black woman who said she did it because " the signs like this are no longer around but that mentality is still here ". If a white student had put up those signs it would have been instant explusion. The black girl gets away with it by saying it brings attention to a problem. Hmmm.. sounds like "Black Priviledge" to me.

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View PostMark., on 22 September 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:

I heard a story today that someone hung up signs at campus bathrooms that said " Whites Only". After the usual outrage and trauma suffered by the students we find out those signs were hung by a young black woman who said she did it because " the signs like this are no longer around but that mentality is still here ". If a white student had put up those signs it would have been instant explusion. The black girl gets away with it by saying it brings attention to a problem. Hmmm.. sounds like "Black Priviledge" to me.

Not really. Racism is real. Without being able to talk to her I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. Sure, officially all colleges are forbidden to segregate, but that does not mean students follow suit.

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View PostStrikerMan780, on 21 September 2015 - 05:44 AM, said:

Been going to college, I want to socialize, or perhaps find a lover... but the social environment is getting extremely toxic, to the point where it doesn't seem viable anymore. Everybody is too damn touchy and afraid to talk, let alone show compassion. Try to be nice? They look at you like some alien. Open a door for someone? You've committed a Micro-aggression. Try to be honest but respectful? Offended/Triggered anyway. Humor? Nobody laughs. Try to be there for someone who's hurt? They'll either lie or hide their feelings, then use their feelings as an excuse to abuse you later.


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View PostHank, on 22 September 2015 - 03:06 PM, said:

Not really. Racism is real. Without being able to talk to her I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. Sure, officially all colleges are forbidden to segregate, but that does not mean students follow suit.


It's okay to give the benefit of the doubt, but absent the context, "WHITES ONLY" and "BLACKS ONLY" signs on bathrooms or water fountains in schools can be considered a racist prank, and the perpetrator might immediately be assumed to be a white redneck kid who wants to screw with people.

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Man, as a New Yorker, I find those "microaggressions" disturbing. Yeah, fuck me for taking an interest into your culture. How racist of me for trying to appreciate something new and exciting! Fuck cultural Marxism. The ultimate degenerates are those who are so milquetoast they scoff at those who live their lives with an ounce of passion. Fuck these white people who want to eliminate my Halal carts and Chinatowns.


I had thought about it, and I wonder if this sort of cultural dissonance is an East Coast vs West Coast dichotomy, since this stupid micro-aggression tripe originated in UC Berkeley. Are West Coasters more oversensitive and touchy-feely than East Coasters?

When I visited Washington D.C. earlier this year, I was amazed at how much of a cultural melting pot the city was. As you said, those Halal food carts kick serious ass.

Los Angeles claims to be a cultural melting pot, but I think the city and pretty much all of the surrounding area is having a cultural meltdown.

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View PostSpastic Lagomorph, on 23 September 2015 - 03:12 AM, said:

It's okay to give the benefit of the doubt, but absent the context, "WHITES ONLY" and "BLACKS ONLY" signs on bathrooms or water fountains in schools can be considered a racist prank, and the perpetrator might immediately be assumed to be a white redneck kid who wants to screw with people.

I can't find the cartoon. Charlie Brown.
Black boy says: I like being black.
White boy says: I like being white.
Black Boy responds: You are racists.

I still give her the benefit of the doubt, of she not being a racist. I used to be young once and did ignorant things; and it can be fun to play with others. But if her motivation was to 'highlight' a distant past to 'prove' all whites are bad, then yes, she too is nothing more than a redneck in a suntanned skin.

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