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What do you guys think are some of the best city-themed user maps? I need to study them for mapping purposes.
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User is offline   Radar 

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The Roch series.

Unfortunately the downloads don't seem to work but the website has a great explanation of the maps and their prominence in the history of Duke modding. You can download them from MSDN or Scent-88.

This post has been edited by Sgt. Rarity: 30 July 2015 - 05:45 PM

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View PostPikaCommando, on 30 July 2015 - 05:14 PM, said:

I need to study them for mapping purposes.


Might I inquire what specifically you're studying for? Shading techniques, unique use of Sector Effectors, level design, etc.?
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View PostSpastic Lagomorph, on 31 July 2015 - 03:47 AM, said:

Might I inquire what specifically you're studying for? Shading techniques, unique use of Sector Effectors, level design, etc.?


Mostly level design, building placements, covering up the borders of the map in a natural way, and maybe shading techniques too, though being a beginner I'll take anything I can get.
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User is offline   Sanek 

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LORCH series

All maps done by a guy named MRCK (ck3d here). His city maps is probably the best ones after Roch series.
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User is offline   Sixty Four 

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You can try out my map hehe it was my second map. But imo it still has some decent build in it. I think it has some outer section to make it feel more like a city a place on the map you don't have to go in order to beat the level.

http://www.scent-88....M/mean/mean.php
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User is offline   Mike Norvak 

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For covering up the borders you can check

http://www.scent-88..../nightshade.php

Hehe.
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User is offline   Radar 

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Nightshade Army is one of my all time favorites! :)

This post has been edited by Sgt. Rarity: 01 August 2015 - 04:39 PM

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User is online   zykov eddy 

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Buenos Aires Explosive Remake. An astonishing city map from Davox, one of the most epic maps ever made
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User is online   ck3D 

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first ones to spring to mind (mostly classics) : Hasit (http://dukerepository.com/maps/Hasit), Back Alley (http://msdn.duke4.net/hotballey.php), Extermination (http://msdn.duke4.ne...termination.php), New York Plaza (http://msdn.duke4.net/hotplaza.php)

View PostSanek, on 31 July 2015 - 11:19 AM, said:

All maps done by a guy named MRCK (ck3d here). His city maps is probably the best ones after Roch series.


thank you ! glad you like them so much.

here's a selection of my favorite maps I've released over the years, if you ever feel like checking them out, just so you know where to start :

- The End of the World pt. 1 (most recent) : http://msdn.duke4.ne...doftheworld.php
- Bummed Out ! Anarchy City X (survival type of map - no guns) : http://msdn.duke4.net/hotbummedout.php
- Happy Hangover : http://msdn.duke4.ne...ppyhangover.php
- Anorak City : http://msdn.duke4.net/hotanorak.php
- Siebenpolis : http://msdn.duke4.ne...siebenpolis.php
- Meatball Sub Makin' (make sure to give the Metropolitan Mayhem and Duke Hard episodes a try if you like it) : http://dukerepositor...tball_Sub_Makin
- Wide Awake ! : http://msdn.duke4.net/hotwideawake.php
- Roch Island (collaborative) : http://msdn.duke4.ne...trochisland.php

There's more out there too, you can find them on MSDN or scent-88.com for the most part.

View Postzykov eddy, on 01 August 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

Buenos Aires Explosive Remake. An astonishing city map from Davox, one of the most epic maps ever made


second this, a great recommendation
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^
I would also add 'AMC pleaser' to your list, I recently replayed it and I thought it did a perfect job of combining more modern design with the classic style. Also has some great usage of shadows and lightning.
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View Postzykov eddy, on 01 August 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

Buenos Aires Explosive Remake. An astonishing city map from Davox, one of the most epic maps ever made





Thanks Eddy :) :D
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I think there's only one way to describe that map eh Davox :)

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View Postck3D, on 02 August 2015 - 03:53 AM, said:



I still have fond memories from that map! I also can name Duke Nukem Forever: Bottles to the Ground.
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User is offline   NNC 

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This post has been edited by Nancsi: 05 August 2015 - 03:20 PM

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Nuke City 2 and The Dream 1 are both city maps which used a great plot twist to make the levels so memorable. Also love the last two levels in both the LR and WB episodes in the Last Reaction TC (Alien Detraining, Great Stadium, then Back to LA, Changing the Future), because their atmosphere is unique and the gameplay (including the boss battles) is highly memorable. Then an other inner gold is the first Las Vegas level in Duke Forever 2013, which is more than brilliant.

From the standard city maps, try Traffic Jam, a beautifully constructed oldie that almost looks like some level lost from the original game. And of course Sewer and Sweeney is there too from Levelord...

Not necessarily a city map, but the highway fuel station level in Lost Highway can also count as it feels like city most of the time.

Honestly I despise the Roch maps by myself. Their gameplay (to me at least) is rather horrid with a mish mash of monsters everywhere, the oh-so-bright construction become boring and bland after a while, and the inner rooms are lifeless. I give credit for the effort, but the maps are not my taste at all.

This post has been edited by Nancsi: 05 August 2015 - 03:20 PM

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View PostSpastic Lagomorph, on 31 July 2015 - 03:47 AM, said:

Might I inquire what specifically you're studying for? Shading techniques, unique use of Sector Effectors, level design, etc.?


I love studying the different people's different leveldesign style. The Birth episode for example is a great experience as it was made by at least 5 people, and all of them has a different approach to construct the maps.
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View PostNancsi, on 05 August 2015 - 03:25 PM, said:

I love studying the different people's different leveldesign style. The Birth episode for example is a great experience as it was made by at least 5 people, and all of them has a different approach to construct the maps.



Can you tell us what approach do they have? All these maps looks very consistent, at least to me.
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View PostSanek, on 07 August 2015 - 05:24 PM, said:

Can you tell us what approach do they have? All these maps looks very consistent, at least to me.


Minor things only and first impression is always telling. Randy's maps for example (not counting Pigsty, which is a Levelord map) have bigger scales than normal, and that alone make those maps look less "in house style" than both Levelord and AHB maps. It's quite clear from the level structure that Area 51 and It's Impossible are made by the same person. The inner design is a lot different (more realistic, but less attractive) than let's say Derelict, which is much more in-house and has areas that clearly remind me to Death Row, Fusion Station etc. Other minor things like the same button puzzle that had been used in both Impossible and Queen is also telling.

AHB's and Levelord's style is also a lot different. Levelord levels are more dynamic, but less realistic, and that is obvious when you compare their space maps and city maps. Incubator and Warp Factor are clearly a one man's design, also the same goes for Spaceport, Tiberius Station, Lunar Reactor and Dark Side. The city maps in E1 and E3 are very different too with Freeway is a lot closer to E1 than any other levels there.

The only levels that somehow look less Levelord and more AHB, hence can be misjudged are The Abyss, LA Rumble and Sewer. These are very close to the AHB style with their more adventurous feel and more realistic design, but less dynamism. I actually prefer AHB to Levelord, despite I appreciate the latter's maps and style as well.

Keith Schuler's sole level is Critical Mass, an excellent level which is a bit close to Randy's style, but then you can see the connection here to Shadow Warrior, where Keith Schuler was one of the most frequent leveldesigners.
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If we are talking about city themed user maps, I gotta chime in here. As an avid Duke 3D player (everyday), I have played almost all the user maps posted at the Repository, and played the one's posted here.

Where to begin? I only play vanilla themed maps. With that said, one of my highest recommends has to be "Doom City" which is at the Repository. It's large, it has many environments ranging from the street level city, to a large subway system. Very challenging gameplay too. A must have.

Nuke City is another. Lot's of amazing roof action on that one.

City of Screams is an old classic, lot's of fun.

Map's 8 and 9 of the Metro Mayhem series (I think 9 is Meatball Submakin')


That is a few to get you started.

BTW, got Repository?
http://dukerepository.com/maps.php

This post has been edited by Blue Lightning: 08 August 2015 - 03:18 PM

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View PostBlue Lightning, on 08 August 2015 - 03:15 PM, said:

I have played almost all the user maps posted at the Repository


View PostBlue Lightning, on 08 August 2015 - 03:15 PM, said:

I only play vanilla themed maps.



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This post has been edited by Sgt. Rarity: 08 August 2015 - 06:07 PM

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Right. I didn't say I kept all the maps from the Repository. I said I tried them. Many of course are not vanilla...but many are.

Since the OP wants to make city maps and see some good examples, I also want to reco Level Lords two maps "Sweeny" and "Sewer", both at the repository. These two maps are an excellent example of what can be achieved.

Level Lord is a master mapper of course, and with those two maps, it really shows. I think he was able to create whatever he wanted and break some barriers since these two maps would not get into the full game. His trademark is evident from the very start...many different paths to choose from, that end up at the same place. Therefore, the maps can be replayed trying different routes. this is a key factor in his maps. It increases the fun factor by a lot.

Level Lord also throws many monsters in those two maps, almost too many. You have to be on your toes. Playing maps as I do only on "Damn I'm Good", this gives me the ultimate challenge. He has different weapon placements depending on which route you decide to take. He likes explosions, and as you go through his maps, it is a dynamic adventure...there is never a dull moment.

I should post pics and links, but I'm too lazy :)

This post has been edited by Blue Lightning: 09 August 2015 - 07:56 AM

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Are there any that are have big buildings like in L.A. Rumble? I haven't played any of these yet due to being busy (and fear of Slimers), so those with buildings as big as the ones in L.A. Rumble are higher on my priority list.
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Let me reco another one I just played: Bankroll 2000 - another great city map, LOTS of clever secrets, great routing, lot's of enemies. A real treat.
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