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"Cutting is shipping"

User is offline   Kristian Joensen 

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http://www.twitter.com/georgeb3dr

Frightfan: Should we wait until GT is persuaded to release the entire Blood source code?

Matt Saettler: Don't know about the Blood source from lith. I doubt they'll release it.

Frightfan: [Jason Hall] already said he would if it were up to him, but it isn't - it's GTI's game now.

Matt Saettler: Jace is wrong. I'm the one that negotiated the contracts. Jace probably doesn't even know what's really in them....
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User is offline   Jobi-Wan Kenobi 

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wow...George is back

"cutting is shipping" I rember that Cliffy B said that, as far as I remember. But its a heavy statement for sure. :) Does that mean they cut out already implemented features? to ship it this year??

Oh George you just started a heavy discussion I guess.
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It "means" the game will be cut in half. We'll get, DNF Episode 1: "What is done". :)

Episode one will end with Duke hanging off a huge cliff.

Fade to black..... "Stay Tuned"

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User is offline   crunchysuperman 

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Cautiously optimistic.

VERY cautious. :)
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I hope they cut those crappy insectoid enemies from the jace hall footage
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View Postcrunchysuperman, on Jan 12 2009, 09:54 PM, said:

Cautiously optimistic.

VERY cautious. :)


I'm with your statement, and I'll add that I'm feeling rather/barely/moreorless hyped.

Time will say, but I did well not expecting anything, any kind of media. When you receive this news, they are more "shocking", sort of speaking.
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View PostRVD, on Jan 12 2009, 10:01 PM, said:

I hope they cut those crappy insectoid enemies from the jace hall footage


Sorry for double post :)

I hope they won't. They look very annoying to me, which it'll be funny when playing the game :D
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The problem here is that we all love to pop boners, but we're just afraid to pop a boner and end up with blue balls because we still won't be getting any. So I'm with Crunchysuperman on this one--cautiously optimistic.

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mmm looks like great news if it is what we think ;-)
Perhaps the day we all dream about is coming closer and closer :)
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View PostRVD, on Jan 12 2009, 04:01 PM, said:

I hope they cut those crappy insectoid enemies from the jace hall footage


Hey, I thought those were pretty cool!

I'm also cautiously optimistic like Crunchy. Whatever gets "chainsawed" will hopefully be saved for an expansion.

I really don't care if a few levels get cut along with some other "cool ideas". Polish what you've got done and get this game to us! :)
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User is offline   Kristian Joensen 

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"Whatever gets "chainsawed" will hopefully be saved for an expansion."

If it is even worth that.

Frightfan: Should we wait until GT is persuaded to release the entire Blood source code?

Matt Saettler: Don't know about the Blood source from lith. I doubt they'll release it.

Frightfan: [Jason Hall] already said he would if it were up to him, but it isn't - it's GTI's game now.

Matt Saettler: Jace is wrong. I'm the one that negotiated the contracts. Jace probably doesn't even know what's really in them....
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User is offline   rockmx8 

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I don't think he's cutting anything, he just is pushing to release the game finally this year. Also there will be expansions and other downloadable features for DNF after release, so either way it's cool. And he just updated saying something relevant as well for DNF, hopefully he will update even more this year along with media until the game is out this year.
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View PostRedSplat, on Jan 12 2009, 04:38 PM, said:

It "means" the game will be cut in half. We'll get, DNF Episode 1: "What is done". :D

Episode one will end with Duke hanging off a huge cliff.

Fade to black..... "Stay Tuned"


That actually sounds like that would be possible and the right thing to do! I'd welcome DNF that way as long as it didn't take them too long to get the other half out. :)
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View PostNUKEMDAVE, on Jan 12 2009, 09:16 PM, said:

That actually sounds like that would be possible and the right thing to do! I'd welcome DNF that way as long as it didn't take them too long to get the other half out. :)


Yeah I agree, if it does happen they better release the next episode in mid 2010 or earlier.
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If I was George, I would add "stay tuned" at the end of the twat. That'd be funny as hell. :)

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User is offline   Kristian Joensen 

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As most of you probably know he posted again since that. But to those out there that don't know:

"Worked on menu design and layout with Pete and Layne for a couple of hours"

Frightfan: Should we wait until GT is persuaded to release the entire Blood source code?

Matt Saettler: Don't know about the Blood source from lith. I doubt they'll release it.

Frightfan: [Jason Hall] already said he would if it were up to him, but it isn't - it's GTI's game now.

Matt Saettler: Jace is wrong. I'm the one that negotiated the contracts. Jace probably doesn't even know what's really in them....
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In DNF senior management has stood behind the feature teams when they?ve had to make the tough decisions. One of the messages that management has consistently driven home to the teams is ?cutting is shipping?, and they?re right. If a feature isn?t coming together, it?s usually far better to decide NOT to deliver a particular feature then to have that feature jeopardize the ability to ship the whole system. In a typical DNF release there are thousands of features and it would be a real shame if one or two of those features ended up delaying the entire system because they really weren?t ready


originally about win7 and vista.

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View PostRedSplat, on Jan 12 2009, 02:38 PM, said:

It "means" the game will be cut in half. We'll get, DNF Episode 1: "What is done". :)

Episode one will end with Duke hanging off a huge cliff.

Fade to black..... "Stay Tuned"


That reminds me of 3DR saying something similar for DNMP. You know, releasing each episode monthly, but in the end they put it all on one disc.

As to why DNF didn't come out back then, is that they were waiting for the right time to bring Duke back. Now, that time may be coming soon.

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View PostKristian Joensen, on Jan 13 2009, 02:04 AM, said:

As most of you probably know he posted again since that. But to those out there that don't know:

"Worked on menu design and layout with Pete and Layne for a couple of hours"


Hmm? Xbox 360 menu or PC menu? I wonder if they even have a working 360 version of the game yet? I doubt it, but who knows.
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If they don't have at least somehow working 360 version(and most likely the release will be simultaneous for PC/360) then DNF is way far off.

Windows incompatibility is a feature, not a bug.
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View PostNUKEMDAVE, on Jan 13 2009, 01:46 AM, said:

Hmm? Xbox 360 menu or PC menu? I wonder if they even have a working 360 version of the game yet? I doubt it, but who knows.


No one knows except for George Broussard. There's no word on them doing a 360 version of DNF, but they're working on a version for PC.

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The menu design is a important part, there have been Xbox 360/PC games that fail at that. Unreal Tournement 3, and then with GUI failure was Fallout 3/Obvilion. So it's not as easy as it sounds. DNF on Xbox 360 is not far fetched, and ever more likely than that.
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I think GB meant that they want to release the game faster. But that's just a little statement on a twitter website, you guys have to think they aren't actually going to go faster. What? are they going to sprint to the offices or install teleporting devices to narrow down the travel to the toilet? How can you actually go faster on game development? That's right, you CAN'T. You can only go SMARTER to release the damn thing.

So the whole impression I've got from the twitter post is that he just want people to have something to talk about. He is still going to do the same amount of work as always.
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View PostDavoX, on Jan 13 2009, 03:43 PM, said:

I think GB meant that they want to release the game faster. But that's just a little statement on a twitter website, you guys have to think they aren't actually going to go faster. What? are they going to sprint to the offices or install teleporting devices to narrow down the travel to the toilet? How can you actually go faster on game development? That's right, you CAN'T. You can only go SMARTER to release the damn thing.


Nop....

Cut down the work... less features...less lvls...less scripting...less less less...

View PostDavoX, on Jan 13 2009, 03:43 PM, said:

So the whole impression I've got from the twitter post is that he just want people to have something to talk about.


Maybe....maybe...maybe it's the pre ignition of the OLD OLD OLD OLD hype disel machine...


View PostDavoX, on Jan 13 2009, 03:43 PM, said:

He is still going to do the same amount of work as always.


Nop...cutting... less... menos... Cutting content...less lvl... "menos work"
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User is offline   peoplessi 

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That phase means they are closer to end?
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User is offline   flarty 

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isnt cutting more associated with pacing? for instance you cut apart of a level out because it ruins the pacing of the game etc etc.

i mean thats what i always associated with cutting, as basically editing.
If this whats meant then really polishing must be in final stages on a whole.
We can hope anyway.
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I would imagine it would include something like that.
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User is offline   Kathy 

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No, I'm sure they're cutting some of the features. Though, pacing in the game is also important, it's not the main cutting that needs to be done in the game development, I think. Thus, "cutting is shipping".

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View PostThe Dukenator, on Jan 13 2009, 01:04 AM, said:

No one knows except for George Broussard. There's no word on them doing a 360 version of DNF, but they're working on a version for PC.


Actually 3drealms had a joblisting wanting people with xbox360 coding experience on the front page awhile back. Besides just having the game for PC would narrow their consumer audience down to people who spend two thousnd dollars on a gaming rig. In short im pretty positive there will be at least a 360 version, maybe PS3.

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I'm sure there will be a 360 version, perhaps also a PS3 version (my slightest doubts for a PS3 version comes from the fact that 3DR seems to like the 360 the most, but i think it would be silly making it only fo rthat console if both could run it)

But just because 3DR were looking for 360 coders, it shouldn't automatically be assumed it's for DNF, they might have other internal projects that we haven't heard of yet...
Or maybe, you know... it's for both, unannounced projects and DNF...

Not that it matters much anyways, regardless, i am still sure there is at LEAST a 360 version on its way, along with the PC version...
Why is this relevant to "Cutting is Shipping" though..? This is more of a platform discussion rather than the original topic guys :)

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